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Old 29 September 2005, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkForce
Very true, but around town all that grunt makes it quicker in reality too...

Fail to see how a car that has a faster 0-60 time, 0-100 time, more power and is lighter can be slower

P.S If I am wrong I stand corrected
Old 29 September 2005, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkForce
Very true, but around town all that grunt makes it quicker in reality too...
This is a 2.0L engine shoehorned into a small light car so it isn't exactly lacking in grunt.
Old 30 September 2005, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim-Grove
Fail to see how a car that has a faster 0-60 time, 0-100 time, more power and is lighter can be slower

P.S If I am wrong I stand corrected
The key word i said was "around town". I don't know where you live but round here I don't do many 0-60 and 0-100 sprints.

Its faster in respect of if i'm pootling around at 20-30 in 3rd and need to accelerate. I can just squeeze the throttle in the Fabia and it shoots off, whereas if i did that in the Clio it would be slower. I'm well aware that in outright speed terms the Fabia is slower.
Old 30 September 2005, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Daz34
This is a 2.0L engine shoehorned into a small light car so it isn't exactly lacking in grunt.
Depends if you define grunt as power or torque..
Old 30 September 2005, 12:23 PM
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True but thats a bit like the `test` on Topgear with the Evo FQ400 against that fiat (iirc) the evo couldn`t catch it if it was in the wrong gear....if I wanted to accelerate 20-30 > 3rd would be fine but I could do that in 2nd or even 1st if I really wanted to pull.

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Old 30 September 2005, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by chris n`nic
True but thats a bit like the `test` on Topgear with the Evo FQ400 against that fiat (iirc) the evo couldn`t catch it if it was in the wrong gear....if I wanted to accelerate 20-30 > 3rd would be fine but I could do that in 2nd or even 1st if I really wanted to pull.

Chris
Ironically that was to prove the turbo was the slower car in that situation That was a bit of an unfair (but interesting) test but I was just referring to day to day town driving situations. In town, having to change down all the time to get decent acceleration can quickly become tiring.
Old 30 September 2005, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkForce
My 172 was bought new in 2002

In 18 Months and 15k miles;

Bits of trim randomly fell off/broke
Cabin becomes so squeaky it had to have the whole dashboard taken out and refitted by the dealer
Random cutting out at idle - never properly diagnosed or fixed
New exhaust required due to knackered mid-section

MPG: 30-37

I now have a Skoda Fabia vRS bought new last year. 12 months and 17k miles later? No faults,*none whatsoever. Handling wise its not as good as the Clio but in 95% of situations it feels faster.

MPG: 40-50
Yeah it feels faster but it wont be if your in the right gear.
Old 30 September 2005, 07:01 PM
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I had one for a year - 172 Cup - and it was more fun on more days of the year and on more roads than my Lotus Exige S2 is, if you get what I mean.

They are fantastic cars, best value performance/handling/practicality package out there since the legendary 205 1.9 GTI.

Get one.
Old 30 September 2005, 08:03 PM
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I had a 172 Cup for 18 months. Great little car. Gutsy engine that pulls all the way from low revs to the red line . The power/weight ratio means it will embarass more powerful cars and it handles like a go cart to boot. I used to own a 306 Rallye and if I had the choice between the 2 cars ( if space wasn;t an option ) I would go for the 172 Cup any day. I don't think you can compare one to a Skoda oil burner however.
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