Just a quickie - new WRX Vs. Octavia VRs.
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Originally Posted by john banks
Comparing dyno plots of a mapped vRS and a standard WRX they both appear to make 90% of peak power from about 70-75% of their maximum engine speed upwards. If anything the style of a lot of remapped VAG motors is massive midrange torque so the power peaks early and holds a long time. Compression ratio, octane, gearbox, clutch, traction and intercooling are the big limitations, otherwise you could make peak power really early and hold it near its peak almost as soon as you can get the turbo to spool up.
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Glad you took that Video. I would of expected the WRX to be a couple of car lengths ahead more or less straight off the line, so looks like he did launch gently. It's good to see that the WRX is a notch up after all the negative comments you get on here. He didn't beat you by a massive margin to be honest.
Also he would leave you for dead in the twisties .
Cheers.
Also he would leave you for dead in the twisties .
Cheers.
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Originally Posted by Goochie
I lost - by 3 car lengths at 130mph. However, I was that confident that I decided to cary a camera operator.
http://www.philgooch.com/octavia/race1.avi
13.3m avi file
http://www.philgooch.com/octavia/race1.avi
13.3m avi file
Second, don't sweat it, that's one quick Skoda you've got there and -contrary to what you might read on here from some- the WRX is a quick car. Anyone who says that a car that can do 0-60 in under 6 seconds and the 30-70 increment in the same time is talking bollox, frankly! Sure, it's not the quickest car anymore and it doesn't have the advantage over the hot hatch brigade that it once had, but its quick enough for most.
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Great Vid.
But the car is a 1.8T Elegance?? Not a Vrs?
Im not saying a Vrs would fair any better, but please post the facts, also on Briskoda, your profile claims 214 BHP??
I used to own an 03 WRX with PPP, now drive a 03 Octavia Vrs. The Vrs is a nice car, but would take back the Scoob anyday....Dam House move!
But the car is a 1.8T Elegance?? Not a Vrs?
Im not saying a Vrs would fair any better, but please post the facts, also on Briskoda, your profile claims 214 BHP??
I used to own an 03 WRX with PPP, now drive a 03 Octavia Vrs. The Vrs is a nice car, but would take back the Scoob anyday....Dam House move!
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Originally Posted by john banks
I'm surprised at the result as I don't seem to find that my wife's standard vRS gets left behind by WRXs.
How often do you get the chance to race over so much clear road without getting done by a Taliban or crashing into some coffin dodger in a Rover?
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Originally Posted by Varboy
In the real world I don't believe you would see much difference, as you say.
How often do you get the chance to race over so much clear road without getting done by a Taliban or crashing into some coffin dodger in a Rover?
How often do you get the chance to race over so much clear road without getting done by a Taliban or crashing into some coffin dodger in a Rover?
The thing is that on the road - unless you're prepared to risk license losing /dangerous type stuff - you'll almost never be driving flat out for more than a few seconds at a time in anything that's moderately quick like a vRS or standard WRX, let alone something that is genuinely quick. With only a few seconds of hard driving, you don't need to have got much of a jump on someone to keep with them / beat them etc.
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that was quite a big difference having now watched itthat scoob has got quite a bit more power .
you screwed your change from 1st to 2nd though but the reall killer was he appears to have longer gears,,,it looked like when you went into third he went past you still in 2nd.
you screwed your change from 1st to 2nd though but the reall killer was he appears to have longer gears,,,it looked like when you went into third he went past you still in 2nd.
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As said, well done for posting the vid, and as said no shame in that performance..
Video evidence at last that a newage WRX can cut it above 60..!
Out of interest, do you know how many miles he has on the scoob..?
Video evidence at last that a newage WRX can cut it above 60..!
Out of interest, do you know how many miles he has on the scoob..?
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Originally Posted by hades
I really think that is a big difference and a lot of the reason that some of the "I kept with this" type threads tend to appear. In certain conditions, my (admittedly modded, but only to ~280bhp) bugeye has kept with things that I know are faster (Evo FQ-320, and a 993 Carrera 4 within the last two weeks, for example). There have also been a couple of occassions where I've been surprised at one or two slower cars that have either stayed with me or at least stayed close.
The thing is that on the road - unless you're prepared to risk license losing /dangerous type stuff - you'll almost never be driving flat out for more than a few seconds at a time in anything that's moderately quick like a vRS or standard WRX, let alone something that is genuinely quick. With only a few seconds of hard driving, you don't need to have got much of a jump on someone to keep with them / beat them etc.
The thing is that on the road - unless you're prepared to risk license losing /dangerous type stuff - you'll almost never be driving flat out for more than a few seconds at a time in anything that's moderately quick like a vRS or standard WRX, let alone something that is genuinely quick. With only a few seconds of hard driving, you don't need to have got much of a jump on someone to keep with them / beat them etc.
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Originally Posted by ozzy
excellent video and its good to see some real life shootouts. And that's a lot more than 3 car lengths
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Any chance you can get an idea of your 0-100 (via speedo odviously, maybe 105-110mph) from timing yourself in the vid. If you can make out the speedo that is..?
I know this isn't very scientific (sp?) just an idea..
I know this isn't very scientific (sp?) just an idea..
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