Engine Pre-analing
15 October 2005, 04:57 PM
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funniest thing is that we give Pete all the ammunition...unwisely he tries to force his way as being the right way. wrong! no offence Pete....but if the likes of Roger Clark Motorsport et al use the cranking procedure, will you not concede there might be something in it? whether your car has blown up or not is not evidence in itself that cranking to get the pressure up is wrong.
15 October 2005, 05:31 PM
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pslewis you are a plonker and so is everyone else who goes along with his 13k posts of pure ****,
Why dont you pm kev at scooby clinic and ask how many after oil change horror stories he gets each week ,, fookin loads,,
why will you not have it?
Why dont you pm kev at scooby clinic and ask how many after oil change horror stories he gets each week ,, fookin loads,,
why will you not have it?
15 October 2005, 05:49 PM
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OK, here is an extract taken from a form provided to Impreza owners.
This information is provided by one of the premier Impreza engine builders
in this country, i'll mention no names
At the end of the day it's your car so up to you what you do, do be honest
i don't give a toss but here goes.
Please Note: An engine spinning on the starter motor is rotating at a speed of approximately 330 RPM, about 5 rotations a second!! If the vehicle is serviced at 5000 mile intervals for say 50'000 miles and the above procedures have not been observed (The above being, as Pete calls it **** oil change), it is entirely possible that the engine will have been run without sufficient oil pressure for 2 to 3 seconds every oil change.
The simple mathmatics show that your lovingly serviced engine, if not treated as our instuctions advise, MAY have been spinning WITHOUT sufficient oil pressure for up to 30 seconds, or 150 revolutions, if serviced 10 times in that period.Neither of which is to be reccomended and in our oppinion is a major contributory factor in big eng failure.
Make your own minds up.
Rob
This information is provided by one of the premier Impreza engine builders
in this country, i'll mention no names
At the end of the day it's your car so up to you what you do, do be honest
i don't give a toss but here goes.
Please Note: An engine spinning on the starter motor is rotating at a speed of approximately 330 RPM, about 5 rotations a second!! If the vehicle is serviced at 5000 mile intervals for say 50'000 miles and the above procedures have not been observed (The above being, as Pete calls it **** oil change), it is entirely possible that the engine will have been run without sufficient oil pressure for 2 to 3 seconds every oil change.
The simple mathmatics show that your lovingly serviced engine, if not treated as our instuctions advise, MAY have been spinning WITHOUT sufficient oil pressure for up to 30 seconds, or 150 revolutions, if serviced 10 times in that period.Neither of which is to be reccomended and in our oppinion is a major contributory factor in big eng failure.
Make your own minds up.
Rob
15 October 2005, 06:07 PM
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I think it was JC on Top Gear who reported that the Freelander was susceptible to a problem that defaulted the transmission to 2WD. The point was that very few owners reported the fault as, the only time the majority went 'off road' was when they pulled onto their driveway.
Point is, if you limit your revs to 3K your turbo could be seized and you just wouldn't know it, so who gives a to$$ what oil goes in anyway. Eh Pete?
Point is, if you limit your revs to 3K your turbo could be seized and you just wouldn't know it, so who gives a to$$ what oil goes in anyway. Eh Pete?
15 October 2005, 06:24 PM
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What complete crap is spoken on here with regards the **** Oil Change!!
You do as the ***** say ... waste hours of your life, for absolutely NO reason whatsoever!!!!
Subaru say do NOT bother doing it
Subaru say don't fill the Oil Filter
Subaru BUILT my car
Subaru DESIGNED my car
Subaru invested £millions in developing my engine
I will take what they say over anyone else .... if thats ok with you!!
Pete
You do as the ***** say ... waste hours of your life, for absolutely NO reason whatsoever!!!!
Subaru say do NOT bother doing it
Subaru say don't fill the Oil Filter
Subaru BUILT my car
Subaru DESIGNED my car
Subaru invested £millions in developing my engine
I will take what they say over anyone else .... if thats ok with you!!
Pete
15 October 2005, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
What complete crap is spoken on here with regards the **** Oil Change!!
You do as the ***** say ... waste hours of your life, for absolutely NO reason whatsoever!!!!
Subaru say do NOT bother doing it
Subaru say don't fill the Oil Filter
Subaru BUILT my car
Subaru DESIGNED my car
Subaru invested £millions in developing my engine
I will take what they say over anyone else .... if thats ok with you!!
Pete
You do as the ***** say ... waste hours of your life, for absolutely NO reason whatsoever!!!!
Subaru say do NOT bother doing it
Subaru say don't fill the Oil Filter
Subaru BUILT my car
Subaru DESIGNED my car
Subaru invested £millions in developing my engine
I will take what they say over anyone else .... if thats ok with you!!
Pete
Rob
15 October 2005, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Someone will come on and tell you unless I find it first!!
Changing you mind now are you?? You are like a candle in the wind!!
Pete
Changing you mind now are you?? You are like a candle in the wind!!
Pete
No way will anything you say change my mind, I'll continue pre-soaking the filter, disconnecting the crank sensor and using decent oil!
15 October 2005, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Houghton
No way will anything you say change my mind, I'll continue pre-soaking the filter, disconnecting the crank sensor and using decent oil!
Pete
15 October 2005, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobfan
It ain't worth it bud, Pete would swear Black is White.
I like him though !
Rob
I like him though !
Rob
Just humour him really
15 October 2005, 07:13 PM
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Subaru Main Dealers do NOT carry out the **** Oil Procedure .... enough said really??
They work under instruction from Subaru, they carry out services on LOADS of cars all day long!!
Do they get all there cars returned with blown engines?? Tell you what, ring up any Main Dealer and ask them!!!
Game, set and match to me again it would seem??
Pete
They work under instruction from Subaru, they carry out services on LOADS of cars all day long!!
Do they get all there cars returned with blown engines?? Tell you what, ring up any Main Dealer and ask them!!!
Game, set and match to me again it would seem??
Pete
15 October 2005, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Subaru Main Dealers do NOT carry out the **** Oil Procedure .... enough said really??
They work under instruction from Subaru, they carry out services on LOADS of cars all day long!!
Do they get all there cars returned with blown engines?? Tell you what, ring up any Main Dealer and ask them!!!
Game, set and match to me again it would seem??
Pete
They work under instruction from Subaru, they carry out services on LOADS of cars all day long!!
Do they get all there cars returned with blown engines?? Tell you what, ring up any Main Dealer and ask them!!!
Game, set and match to me again it would seem??
Pete
Rob
15 October 2005, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Subaru Main Dealers do NOT carry out the **** Oil Procedure .... enough said really??
They work under instruction from Subaru, they carry out services on LOADS of cars all day long!!
Do they get all there cars returned with blown engines?? Tell you what, ring up any Main Dealer and ask them!!!
Game, set and match to me again it would seem??
Pete
They work under instruction from Subaru, they carry out services on LOADS of cars all day long!!
Do they get all there cars returned with blown engines?? Tell you what, ring up any Main Dealer and ask them!!!
Game, set and match to me again it would seem??
Pete
WTF do main dealers care? It's not in their interest to do anything other than by the book. Anyone with any savvy (other than for warranty purposes) wouldn't use them anyway. If you want a job doing properly and with some proactive input, use a non-franchised specialist.
15 October 2005, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Houghton
WTF do main dealers care? It's not in their interest to do anything other than by the book. Anyone with any savvy (other than for warranty purposes) wouldn't use them anyway. If you want a job doing properly and with some proactive input, use a non-franchised specialist.
So? you agree that Subaru Dealers do the Oil Change to the book then? That will be the Impreza Turbo Service Manual, yes?
I rest my case!!
Pete
ps. Of course some 'specialist' will tell you that they carry out the **** Procedure ....... it pays them another pile od dosh!!
15 October 2005, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Sorry, but thats a real ******* statement!!
So? you agree that Subaru Dealers do the Oil Change to the book then? That will be the Impreza Turbo Service Manual, yes?
So? you agree that Subaru Dealers do the Oil Change to the book then? That will be the Impreza Turbo Service Manual, yes?
Originally Posted by pslewis
I rest my case!!
Originally Posted by pslewis
ps. Of course some 'specialist' will tell you that they carry out the **** Procedure ....... it pays them another pile od dosh!!
Specialists generally charge a lower hourly rate than main dealers, have more knowledge of the model and most importantly, the flexibility to carry out the work in the interest of the customer and the individual car without being tied to manufacturer's procedures.
15 October 2005, 07:56 PM
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You would be lucky, have you been on a motorway, more like 11.99 for 1 litre of oil!
Originally Posted by pslewis
I take it, because my Turbo isn't 'spooled' I can use £4:99 a Gallon 'MotorWay' Oil???
Pete
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15 October 2005, 08:06 PM
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'Motor Way' is an Oil sold by such places as Wilkos!!
It is about £4:99 a gallon and it's reconstituted oil (old engine oil passed through a nylon stocking and resold!!)
Yes, its fine, by the way!!
Pete
It is about £4:99 a gallon and it's reconstituted oil (old engine oil passed through a nylon stocking and resold!!)
Yes, its fine, by the way!!
Pete
15 October 2005, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
'Motor Way' is an Oil sold by such places as Wilkos!!
It is about £4:99 a gallon and it's reconstituted oil (old engine oil passed through a nylon stocking and resold!!)
Yes, its fine, by the way!!
Pete
It is about £4:99 a gallon and it's reconstituted oil (old engine oil passed through a nylon stocking and resold!!)
Yes, its fine, by the way!!
Pete
Rob
16 October 2005, 10:23 AM
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For those who don't know .......
The **** Oil Change Procedure:-
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthrea...=oil+procedure
Pete
The **** Oil Change Procedure:-
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthrea...=oil+procedure
Pete
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