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21 October 2005, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
your not the only person to pay high tax/pension and private health care etc 
the main concern is about the migration of imagrants that leech off the government and have no contribution !!! which is considerably higher than any that will contribute by paying 40% tax 
and just because you have chosen to take out all your private schemes out there is no reason to look down on anyone
the main concern is about the migration of imagrants that leech off the government and have no contribution !!! which is considerably higher than any that will contribute by paying 40% tax and just because you have chosen to take out all your private schemes out there is no reason to look down on anyone My point is there are plenty of 'poor white trash' sapping my income to provide them with a safety net of state provision. You may well be one of them.
21 October 2005, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
I never said that I was the only one. The rest of your post I have difficulty deciphering. Maybe english is not your first language.
My point is there are plenty of 'poor white trash' sapping my income to provide them with a safety net of state provision. You may well be one of them.
My point is there are plenty of 'poor white trash' sapping my income to provide them with a safety net of state provision. You may well be one of them.
Oh Brother, there soooooooo much comradEship and brotherly love in you. If thatcher (oh sorry I forgot, he is) was in power you would have had your knighthood by now. I think I'll find a nice country trailer park to live in so you dont run me over in your Burgundy Merc 560.
LOL......................
22 October 2005, 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Robbie T
Not confused subjects, i mentioned assylum in one of my first post in this thread. No harm in stretching the area of discussion anyway.
Originally Posted by Petem95
Yes we need immigrants, but on a FAR lower scale, and skilled ones, not all from developing countries. The UK isnt run as a charity
Originally Posted by GC8
Net immigration of over half a million people is unsustainable, now matter if all of these peopel were decent, worthwhile and made a reasonable contribution.
22 October 2005, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Brit_in_Japan
I currently live in Japan, but I intend to return to the UK, so your first comment is fatuous.
For sure there will always be some people who abuse the system to their benefit, but to damn every immigrant because of a small minority is just plain wrong. Do you have any facts which backup your assertion that economic migrants are scrounging off benefits? Radical step I know asking for facts on SN. Perhaps you know of some report which contradicts this report from Unison http://www.unison.org.uk/features/fe...8frontiers.asp ? Did you know that nearly 50% of the nurses in London came here are migrants? Or that about 70% of catering workers in London came here as migrants? Presumably you think they should be sent home as scroungers.
You want to stop all immigration? You're in a dream world.
1. There is free movement of labour within the EU. This means that labour can move to wherever there are jobs within member countries. At the moment people are coming here from Poland, the Baltic states etc because our economy is stronger than other countries. Germany and France have double digit unemployment rates, so not particularly attractive right now. If our economy goes into recession then we have the right to move anywhere in the EU where we can get a job.
2. We have agreements with Commonwealth countries which permit immigration and allow them to work. Do you want to stop Australians, Canadians etc coming here to work on their gap year? Or is it just citizens from poorer Commonwealth countries?
Outside of the EU and the Commonwealth we should have a system based on filling needs in the job market. We should have control of our borders. But immigration is good for the UK economy. Sorry of that doesn't fit in with your pre-conceived ideas.
Maybe if you spent some time living and working in another country your views would change a little. As a resident in Japan I am trying to learn Japanese, but it isn't easy. I'm sure that some immigrants to the UK struggle to learn Engish despite their best efforts. Let me ask you Robbie T, how many other languages do you speak fluently?
Whilst I have to adapt a certain amount to try and fit in here, even if I stayed here the rest of my life I would never adapt 100% to Japanese culture. Presumably if you were Japanese then I would be deported as I wasn't sufficiently integrated?
Whilst usually polite and friendly, there is definitely an xenophobic trait in the Japanese. Gaijin (people from other places) are sometimes not admitted to some restaurants and clubs simply because they are not Japanese. On trains you can sometimes find yourself sitting with a space either side of you, the only seats not taken on the train. The Japanese police have been known to "blame the gaijin" despite facts to the contrary. Presumably you believe this is fair as we shouldn't "bit the hand that feeds".
For sure there will always be some people who abuse the system to their benefit, but to damn every immigrant because of a small minority is just plain wrong. Do you have any facts which backup your assertion that economic migrants are scrounging off benefits? Radical step I know asking for facts on SN. Perhaps you know of some report which contradicts this report from Unison http://www.unison.org.uk/features/fe...8frontiers.asp ? Did you know that nearly 50% of the nurses in London came here are migrants? Or that about 70% of catering workers in London came here as migrants? Presumably you think they should be sent home as scroungers.
You want to stop all immigration? You're in a dream world.
1. There is free movement of labour within the EU. This means that labour can move to wherever there are jobs within member countries. At the moment people are coming here from Poland, the Baltic states etc because our economy is stronger than other countries. Germany and France have double digit unemployment rates, so not particularly attractive right now. If our economy goes into recession then we have the right to move anywhere in the EU where we can get a job.
2. We have agreements with Commonwealth countries which permit immigration and allow them to work. Do you want to stop Australians, Canadians etc coming here to work on their gap year? Or is it just citizens from poorer Commonwealth countries?
Outside of the EU and the Commonwealth we should have a system based on filling needs in the job market. We should have control of our borders. But immigration is good for the UK economy. Sorry of that doesn't fit in with your pre-conceived ideas.
Maybe if you spent some time living and working in another country your views would change a little. As a resident in Japan I am trying to learn Japanese, but it isn't easy. I'm sure that some immigrants to the UK struggle to learn Engish despite their best efforts. Let me ask you Robbie T, how many other languages do you speak fluently?
Whilst I have to adapt a certain amount to try and fit in here, even if I stayed here the rest of my life I would never adapt 100% to Japanese culture. Presumably if you were Japanese then I would be deported as I wasn't sufficiently integrated?
Whilst usually polite and friendly, there is definitely an xenophobic trait in the Japanese. Gaijin (people from other places) are sometimes not admitted to some restaurants and clubs simply because they are not Japanese. On trains you can sometimes find yourself sitting with a space either side of you, the only seats not taken on the train. The Japanese police have been known to "blame the gaijin" despite facts to the contrary. Presumably you believe this is fair as we shouldn't "bit the hand that feeds".
We - The Brits on the other hand are a moderate peace loving people which is why the sponging ******* come over here and rip the **** out of our welfare systems. Hang the fckuers out to dry I say, starve some sense into them!!
22 October 2005, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
I never said that I was the only one. The rest of your post I have difficulty deciphering. Maybe english is not your first language.
My point is there are plenty of 'poor white trash' sapping my income to provide them with a safety net of state provision. You may well be one of them.
My point is there are plenty of 'poor white trash' sapping my income to provide them with a safety net of state provision. You may well be one of them.
but then again i dont have a chip on my shoulder
22 October 2005, 08:35 AM
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We are told to celebrate multi-culturalism. What should we be celebrating exactly?
I disagree, you can't have a reasonable debate on a topic if the topic itself is ill defined and keeps changing. Recent posts now include immigration (the original subject), assylum and multi-culturalism. Whilst there is some linkage they are not the same thing.
22 October 2005, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Brit_in_Japan
It looks like the UK will be better placed to pay for this than many countries in Europe so long as immigration continues.
Funny, most people on here shouldn't be afraid of "lazy" immigrants. They should be very afraid of the ones who want to work their bollox off (which is most of them).
Just keep on reading your tabloids, and when you finally smell something, it won't be the immigrants.
22 October 2005, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
i can assure you i dont leech off nothing and i pay high tax as well but then again i dont have a chip on my shoulder
but then again i dont have a chip on my shoulderIf you use the NHS, state schools, child benefit etc you maybe a leech. In my book you are. I use none of these but pay for them so your families can use them because you are too poor and stupid to buy them yourselves.
I agree in strict immigration policy but its those that shout loudest are actually leeches themselves.
Every white person here who does'nt fully fund his own schooling, healthcare, full pension provisions, nursing home provisions etc etc is a scumbag in my book. You are worse than immigrants. You need to get up of your ***** and work a little harder so I don't have to pay for your dim witted children to go to school.
You should starve and preferably be left to die if you can't afford private healthcare.If you can't afford private schools your children should do a short course and then come and work as my servants/mechanic/cleaner etc
This country is far too soft. Where it is softest is its attitude to leeches like you, not immigrants. I'm fed up with paying for you because you are too stupid and lazy to stand fully on your own two feet without the state to wipe your sorry ****.
ps Thatcher was great, but too soft!!
22 October 2005, 09:41 AM
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Just to be clear, I'm not arguing for more immigration. Far from it. Its just that to me they are not the biggest burden to this economy. The biggest burden are the millions( like some on this thread) who take advantage of the tax from the few to make their life easier. I wish they would get out!
22 October 2005, 09:41 AM
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Harold Wilson encouraged large scale immigration because he thought they would generate more Labour votes. Unfortunately for him they all voted Conservative ! 
If this goes on we will fall off the edge into the sea.
Les
If this goes on we will fall off the edge into the sea.
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22 October 2005, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
If this goes on we will fall off the edge into the sea.
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Would it be the right time now to suggest the UK finally does it's agreed share of taking in immigrants ? As the rest of Europe is suffering a bit.
I guess not
22 October 2005, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RedFive
Isn't that a bit pathetic ?
Would it be the right time now to suggest the UK finally does it's agreed share of taking in immigrants ? As the rest of Europe is suffering a bit.
I guess not
Would it be the right time now to suggest the UK finally does it's agreed share of taking in immigrants ? As the rest of Europe is suffering a bit.
I guess not
swarming in.
Yet again it's Britain to the rescue bailing out yet another country.
I'm proud to be British and my roots go back generations, i'm safe in the knowledge that i am a true Brit !!!
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22 October 2005, 11:06 AM
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Depends on your definition of 'leeching'
If you use the NHS, state schools, child benefit etc you maybe a leech. In my book you are. I use none of these but pay for them so your families can use them because you are too poor and stupid to buy them yourselves.
I agree in strict immigration policy but its those that shout loudest are actually leeches themselves.
Every white person here who does'nt fully fund his own schooling, healthcare, full pension provisions, nursing home provisions etc etc is a scumbag in my book. You are worse than immigrants. You need to get up of your ***** and work a little harder so I don't have to pay for your dim witted children to go to school.
You should starve and preferably be left to die if you can't afford private healthcare.If you can't afford private schools your children should do a short course and then come and work as my servants/mechanic/cleaner etc
This country is far too soft. Where it is softest is its attitude to leeches like you, not immigrants. I'm fed up with paying for you because you are too stupid and lazy to stand fully on your own two feet without the state to wipe your sorry ****.
ps Thatcher was great, but too soft!!
If you use the NHS, state schools, child benefit etc you maybe a leech. In my book you are. I use none of these but pay for them so your families can use them because you are too poor and stupid to buy them yourselves.
I agree in strict immigration policy but its those that shout loudest are actually leeches themselves.
Every white person here who does'nt fully fund his own schooling, healthcare, full pension provisions, nursing home provisions etc etc is a scumbag in my book. You are worse than immigrants. You need to get up of your ***** and work a little harder so I don't have to pay for your dim witted children to go to school.
You should starve and preferably be left to die if you can't afford private healthcare.If you can't afford private schools your children should do a short course and then come and work as my servants/mechanic/cleaner etc
This country is far too soft. Where it is softest is its attitude to leeches like you, not immigrants. I'm fed up with paying for you because you are too stupid and lazy to stand fully on your own two feet without the state to wipe your sorry ****.
ps Thatcher was great, but too soft!!
Are you suggesting that we only have private healthcare, schools and pensions in this country?
Surely by paying our taxes like you we pay for these things (massively subsidised obviously) indirectly, this is obviously better than the immigrants coming here and not contributing labour or taxes on earnings. Because you earn more you pay more and frankly it's tough ****
, i suppose i should admire your disillusioned 'elitest' outlook on life 
Without us mere mortals at the bottom you wouldn't be where you describe yourself to be, would you?
22 October 2005, 11:27 AM
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How to we get the poor white trash chav scum out of this country ? Thats what I'd like to know
At least the immigrants I've met want to work and better themselves rather than getting knocked up at 15 to get a flat and spend the rest of thier lives pumping out kids whos only desire will be to wear trackies and burberry and sit on thier ***** smoking weed and knocking one out over Jordan or wanting to be David Beckham ( for 5 seconds after realising its too much hard work) and other crap role models.
Thats what pisses me off about this country. Too much PWT scum about.
AllanB
At least the immigrants I've met want to work and better themselves rather than getting knocked up at 15 to get a flat and spend the rest of thier lives pumping out kids whos only desire will be to wear trackies and burberry and sit on thier ***** smoking weed and knocking one out over Jordan or wanting to be David Beckham ( for 5 seconds after realising its too much hard work) and other crap role models.
Thats what pisses me off about this country. Too much PWT scum about.
AllanB
22 October 2005, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Robbie T
Deep WTF are you on
Are you suggesting that we only have private healthcare, schools and pensions in this country?
Surely by paying our taxes like you we pay for these things (massively subsidised obviously) indirectly, this is obviously better than the immigrants coming here and not contributing labour or taxes on earnings. Because you earn more you pay more and frankly it's tough **** , i suppose i should admire your disillusioned 'elitest' outlook on life
Without us mere mortals at the bottom you wouldn't be where you describe yourself to be, would you?
Are you suggesting that we only have private healthcare, schools and pensions in this country?
Surely by paying our taxes like you we pay for these things (massively subsidised obviously) indirectly, this is obviously better than the immigrants coming here and not contributing labour or taxes on earnings. Because you earn more you pay more and frankly it's tough ****
, i suppose i should admire your disillusioned 'elitest' outlook on life Without us mere mortals at the bottom you wouldn't be where you describe yourself to be, would you?
Let the immigrants fend for themselves? Yes, but I want ALL to fend for themselves. I am as`far removed from a Socialist as can be. Its just ironic that some point the finger at immigrants, I also point the finger at all those who rely on state sponsored provisions.
You may call provision of a state safety net as a society. I feel its robbery of higher earners to subsidise the weak. All those who want to be tough on immigration must agree with me?
22 October 2005, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
Robbie I'm taking the 'immigrants sap our country' and opening the debate wider. As I've said I am all FOR tougher immigration laws, but my right wing tendencies go further. I don't want to pay for you(if it applies) to have state provided schools/healthcare/sickness benefit etc I don't want to subside your mediocre children to study for a degree in media studies. Why should I?
Let the immigrants fend for themselves? Yes, but I want ALL to fend for themselves. I am as`far removed from a Socialist as can be. Its just ironic that some point the finger at immigrants, I also point the finger at all those who rely on state sponsored provisions.
You may call provision of a state safety net as a society. I feel its robbery of higher earners to subsidise the weak. All those who want to be tough on immigration must agree with me?
Let the immigrants fend for themselves? Yes, but I want ALL to fend for themselves. I am as`far removed from a Socialist as can be. Its just ironic that some point the finger at immigrants, I also point the finger at all those who rely on state sponsored provisions.
You may call provision of a state safety net as a society. I feel its robbery of higher earners to subsidise the weak. All those who want to be tough on immigration must agree with me?
22 October 2005, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
Just to be clear, I'm not arguing for more immigration. Far from it. Its just that to me they are not the biggest burden to this economy. The biggest burden are the millions( like some on this thread) who take advantage of the tax from the few to make their life easier. I wish they would get out!
i think after watching the immigrants coming into the country getting all the hand out there are available it makes other hard workers or those who are looking for work, think............why the **** should i work?
thats what i think
22 October 2005, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben WRX Bug-Eye
I broadly agree with you. The benefits and assylum systems were never designed to cope with this type of widescale abuse by people who quite frankly are just looking to play the system. I hate the fact that so much of my wages are taken in tax (directly or indirectly) to fund the nonsense that goes on in this country, especially when my relatives or I will never be 'eligible' to recieve even a fraction of it back, regardless of circumstances.
22 October 2005, 12:35 PM
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I don't think its pathetic at all Red Five.
We are a very crowded island and if we become even more so with more and more substandard accommodation as well, crime and violence will increase beyond all proportion. We also cannot afford to let an even greater slice of the GDP go towards supporting more and more people on benefits. The politicians love it of course because the greater the population, the more power they think they have in world affairs.
We have done a great deal in past years, certainly well above our share as far as providing a haven for immigrants is concerned. I don't personally regret that but there is a limit. Time for other larger countries to take a fair share as well.
This is still a beautiful country, we can't afford to lose it all under more and more concrete. The politicians are not even prepared to improve the infrastructure to cope anyway.
Les
We are a very crowded island and if we become even more so with more and more substandard accommodation as well, crime and violence will increase beyond all proportion. We also cannot afford to let an even greater slice of the GDP go towards supporting more and more people on benefits. The politicians love it of course because the greater the population, the more power they think they have in world affairs.
We have done a great deal in past years, certainly well above our share as far as providing a haven for immigrants is concerned. I don't personally regret that but there is a limit. Time for other larger countries to take a fair share as well.
This is still a beautiful country, we can't afford to lose it all under more and more concrete. The politicians are not even prepared to improve the infrastructure to cope anyway.
Les
22 October 2005, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Time for other larger countries to take a fair share as well.
Do you realize that for example France has 5.5 million immigrants from muslim countries, as where the UK only has 1.5 million ?
It is a myth that only the UK is taking people on board.
You can have a serious debate about how much is too much. I have no problem with that at all. But it would be nice if the discussion were based on facts. And that civilized people would say "tut tut" to people who talk about "bacteria". I'm sure you would not want to live in a world - even if it were totally immigrant free - where this goes unnoticed and unchallenged.
And that has nothing to do with "PC".
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About 80-90% of the factory workforce here are Polish or Portugese. These people come over for jobs all pay national insurance and tax. They live in small houses rammed full of people.
Some of the workers downstairs are doctors who can earn more money over here packing meat than they can back home practicing medicine!
We struggle for english workers here, they would sooner sit on benefits than come and work for a living!
Job shy immigrants are a problem i agree, but so are job shy nationals. As far as i am concerned they are as bad as each other.
Some of the workers downstairs are doctors who can earn more money over here packing meat than they can back home practicing medicine!
We struggle for english workers here, they would sooner sit on benefits than come and work for a living!
Job shy immigrants are a problem i agree, but so are job shy nationals. As far as i am concerned they are as bad as each other.
22 October 2005, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RedFive
Leslie, do you have any idea how small or big the share has been from these other countries ?
Do you realize that for example France has 5.5 million immigrants from muslim countries, as where the UK only has 1.5 million ?
It is a myth that only the UK is taking people on board.
You can have a serious debate about how much is too much. I have no problem with that at all. But it would be nice if the discussion were based on facts. And that civilized people would say "tut tut" to people who talk about "bacteria". I'm sure you would not want to live in a world - even if it were totally immigrant free - where this goes unnoticed and unchallenged.
And that has nothing to do with "PC".
Do you realize that for example France has 5.5 million immigrants from muslim countries, as where the UK only has 1.5 million ?
It is a myth that only the UK is taking people on board.
You can have a serious debate about how much is too much. I have no problem with that at all. But it would be nice if the discussion were based on facts. And that civilized people would say "tut tut" to people who talk about "bacteria". I'm sure you would not want to live in a world - even if it were totally immigrant free - where this goes unnoticed and unchallenged.
And that has nothing to do with "PC".
Rob
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Originally Posted by scoobfan
And so it should, it's Five times the size of Britain
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Rob
Geez, I wonder how the Dutch and Belgians must feel then? Probably "what ever"
Care to actually address my points ? Are you telling me you actually knew this ?
Ho hum.
Edit: so 541.000 km2 is Five (sic) times the size of 244.000 km2 ? 'kay...
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Originally Posted by RedFive
Ah, it's about size, not economy, I understand now, how stupid of me.
Geez, I wonder how the Dutch and Belgians must feel then? Probably "what ever"
Care to actually address my points ? Are you telling me you actually knew this ?
Ho hum.
Edit: so 541.000 km2 is Five (sic) times the size of 244.000 km2 ? 'kay...
Geez, I wonder how the Dutch and Belgians must feel then? Probably "what ever"
Care to actually address my points ? Are you telling me you actually knew this ?
Ho hum.
Edit: so 541.000 km2 is Five (sic) times the size of 244.000 km2 ? 'kay...
2.And who gives a sh*t, this is about Britain
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I don't think its pathetic at all Red Five.
We are a very crowded island and if we become even more so with more and more substandard accommodation as well, crime and violence will increase beyond all proportion. We also cannot afford to let an even greater slice of the GDP go towards supporting more and more people on benefits. The politicians love it of course because the greater the population, the more power they think they have in world affairs.
We have done a great deal in past years, certainly well above our share as far as providing a haven for immigrants is concerned. I don't personally regret that but there is a limit. Time for other larger countries to take a fair share as well.
This is still a beautiful country, we can't afford to lose it all under more and more concrete. The politicians are not even prepared to improve the infrastructure to cope anyway.
Les
We are a very crowded island and if we become even more so with more and more substandard accommodation as well, crime and violence will increase beyond all proportion. We also cannot afford to let an even greater slice of the GDP go towards supporting more and more people on benefits. The politicians love it of course because the greater the population, the more power they think they have in world affairs.
We have done a great deal in past years, certainly well above our share as far as providing a haven for immigrants is concerned. I don't personally regret that but there is a limit. Time for other larger countries to take a fair share as well.
This is still a beautiful country, we can't afford to lose it all under more and more concrete. The politicians are not even prepared to improve the infrastructure to cope anyway.
Les
22 October 2005, 06:35 PM
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Red Five,
I have made no allusion whatsoever to anything to do with "bacteria" nor have I made any criticism of immigrants per se, so you can drop that part of your argument straight away! You might even apologise for attempting to taint my perceived attitude towards people who are not British. You should have been able to deduce that from my previous post anyway.
The amount of immigration that a country can stand depends on its size, its density of population, its wealth and how well it treats its own people who are below the poverty level amongst other factors.
This country is attractive to immigrants because of its welfare services and its laisser faire attitude to control of immigration.
Perhap's you would like to tell us with all your undoubted knowledge of these things, how many immigrants we should be able to continue to take before our entire system breaks down and our own standard of living drops below an acceptable level.
You might also say why it is that there are so many immigrants who want to leave their own country and live in our economy instead of sorting out their own country to improve their lives of their own accord. Would it not be better to help them to do just that to develop their own economies which would increase the overall wealth of the world? Its an awful lot of land being wasted if they leave it all to live here.
That also has nothing to do with political correctness which is dragging this country down the tubes!
Les
I have made no allusion whatsoever to anything to do with "bacteria" nor have I made any criticism of immigrants per se, so you can drop that part of your argument straight away! You might even apologise for attempting to taint my perceived attitude towards people who are not British. You should have been able to deduce that from my previous post anyway.
The amount of immigration that a country can stand depends on its size, its density of population, its wealth and how well it treats its own people who are below the poverty level amongst other factors.
This country is attractive to immigrants because of its welfare services and its laisser faire attitude to control of immigration.
Perhap's you would like to tell us with all your undoubted knowledge of these things, how many immigrants we should be able to continue to take before our entire system breaks down and our own standard of living drops below an acceptable level.
You might also say why it is that there are so many immigrants who want to leave their own country and live in our economy instead of sorting out their own country to improve their lives of their own accord. Would it not be better to help them to do just that to develop their own economies which would increase the overall wealth of the world? Its an awful lot of land being wasted if they leave it all to live here.
That also has nothing to do with political correctness which is dragging this country down the tubes!
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23 October 2005, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Ben WRC Bug-Eye
Exactly. The infrastructure can barely cope as it is, and they want to let in approximately 5 million more people, mainly from Pakistan, over the next decade or so.
oscaprezza, whilst there is a debate to be had about multiculturalism, your post (starting "segrogated" - and please invest in a dictionary) is one of the most objectionable and ignorant I've seen on SN in recent times. Congratulations, you beat some tough competition.
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if britian had been more ignorant in recent years we wouldnt be in the current mess that now runs our lives and views, no immigrants =no debate, so if u dont like wearing a whistle and flute dont go to weddings !
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Thank you for proving my point more eloquently than I ever could.
Putting economic migrants in ghettos to be monitored, paid **** wages, starved and beaten is, of course, the answer to all Britain's problems. How could I have been so stupid?
You are the Scoobynet Mystery Troll and I claim my free Scoobynet Plus lifetime membership !
Putting economic migrants in ghettos to be monitored, paid **** wages, starved and beaten is, of course, the answer to all Britain's problems. How could I have been so stupid?
You are the Scoobynet Mystery Troll and I claim my free Scoobynet Plus lifetime membership !
