Diablo

Yes

Diablo

LOL

The Rolex pictured is a fake.

paulr

Whats wrong with the parts made by machine?The watch will be assembled by hand but even if it wasnt,so what.Its the quality of the movement,design,materials,experience that you pay for.

paulr

So you dont know much about Breitling watches then to compare them to Toyota's.

Brendan Hughes

I disagree Kiwi.





Toyotas are reliable.

bigsinky

well i have a seamaster and a breitling so there!!!!

Rabid

Comparing the Omega and Breitling to Toyotas is a reasonable analogy. Both are bread and butter of the 'watch world', widely available and for some the default choice.

KiwiGTI

At the end of the day Breitling and Tag are technically the same as Seiko, they are mass-market and perform their function well. But they aren't considered masterpieces of watch engineering, even their automatic versions. And if you miss the point I'm making (given that some have suggested there is pleasure to be had wearing an engineering marvel) then you have just fallen for the "image" rather than the engineering of it.

TheBigMan

I own the automatic.

It has a chronometer therefore it loses/gains minimal time. About 2 seconds per month, so to summarize - NOTHING.

It's been spot on and I'll keep it until the day I die.

Not a fan of the special edition 007 version T-A-C-K-Y or what. Omega just making a few extra quid, and fair play to them - as it did sell some....

Any Swiss made automatic watch is quality - the rest is down to personal choice. Though divers watches are far more robust than the limp wristed leather strapped counterparts. However, again it's down to personal choice in the style of the item.

Rabid

Thing is with watches image is really all people go for. For me the 'history' of a watch is what makes it, along with an interest in the design and the values of the company that made it.
It's for that reason I find it hard to understand the interest in some brands like the relaunched Panerai, nice looking watches but using generic movements doesn't cut it for me, I may as well buy a copy (not knocking the original pre vendome watches). I'm no expert but the watches I'm most interested in tend to be stuff like this

http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...=1276772&rid=0

Brendan Hughes

Can you explain this? Do you mean it's OSOC(?) certified as a chronometer? In which case the tolerances are +6 / -4 secs per day. If it changes a couple of seconds a month, it's bloody well adjusted.

If you mean it has a stopwatch built in, then I'm not sure how that affects the timekeeping.

TheBigMan

Yes, exactly.

Mine is the "Omega Seamaster Professional Chronometer". No stopwatch, automatic movement.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronometer

I checked mine (sad) a few months back after banter with a Rolex owner. His lost over 4 minutes in a month - mine, seconds.

"....tolerances are +6 / -4 secs per day". Yes, fromthat I would say mine is therefore around the -0.001 secs per day. So, it is a good one - as some, as you say can lose in a day what mine does in a month. Guess I just landed a good example.

Though it may degrade a little over time? We shall see.

paulr

Mass market?
Locally i can buy a toyota,BMW,mercedes,bread,Margerine but i have to travel 95 miles to get a Breitling.

carl

Tried to buy an IWC in Orlando. They said I might be able to get one in Tallahassee (or was it Jacksonville?). Needless to say I waited till I got home and picked one up in London.

Brendan Hughes

I don't think it'll degrade, but you're expected to take it for a service every few years - and good luck that it comes back with as good timekeeping as it went out Unless you get a perfectionist servicing it, as far as it's within the official tolerances, that's good enough for them

TheBigMan

The question now, why should I service it if that is the case??

scoobydooooo

my seamaster looses a couple of minutes every 2 weeks or so , it has got worse since buyin it 3 years ago but i knew it would loose time when i bought it , i would be hard pushed to buy another watch that i like as much though !!

Brendan Hughes

uh-oh...don't ask that anywhere near a watch forum.... it'll make your pug-eye vs bug-eye threads look short.

Basically, coz any constantly moving machine needs a service and lubrication. Apparently.

TheBigMan

Come again?

Regarding watches, same can be said for an accurist quartz though surely? Or is it a case of because it's worth so much it's good to maintain it. Good point. Well, it's therefore due a service then. Wonder how much that'll cost!!!!?!?!?!

Brendan Hughes

The price of an Accurist quartz

ISTR Rolex service was £175, by Rolex - other places will do it cheaper. Don't know about Omega. It'll come back looking like new though. Even if they screw up the timekeeping.

scoobimax

As has been said before it's down to personal choice. I prefer Omega, some prefer Breitling, some prefer Rolex.

Some prefer Seamaster, me I prefer the Speedmaster. I also went for the Speedmaster Racing with the carbon fibre face - not loads about but increasingly so since I got mine.

i also like this De Ville

So go for what you want, but I also echo the self winder over the battery option it is afterall about engineering.

Mungo

I have had my Seamaster Diver Chronometer for about 5years and it keeps good enough time for daily use. Sure it needs checking once in a while, but doesn't everything? The bracelet design I have is now only available in titanium, although mine's stainless steel. Very nice watch.

rgv_stu

i bought my seamaster chronometer last january in sydney airport. saved a packet on it, there £1100 over here, i ended up paying £734
best watch ive ever had, solid reliable, dont rip hairs out your arms, and the sweeping hand is cool its also the only watch ive had that hasnt scratched on the face aswell.
buy one

jbryant

I sent my Tag auto back for a service after about 6 years (Tring watch doctors) . Not because I thought it needed it, but because I had smashed the bezel. The watch was losing about 3 minutes per month, and I mentioned this when sending it in. After the new bezel (and service while I was at it - thought I might as well) the watch came back and now loses only about 15 seconds a month
Recalibration is part of the std. service IIRC and part of the reason they keep it for a few days.

Job done. Will certainly use them again.
Joolz (and his Lada of the watch world you bunch of snobs! )

KiwiGTI

It's worth noting that you are ripped off badly in the UK, if you ever get the chance buy a watch in Asia (Hong Kong, Singapore, Bangkok etc) because you'll save loads.

Reality

Well my Rolex Oysterdate loses about 5 minutes a month - Couldn't give a **** .

My Dad got it in Singapore just before I was born there - He gave it to me 10 years ago when Mum replaced his watch for another.

I have to manually wind it every morning - what a chore

ian_sadler

Here's mine ...



Love it to bits even if it does lose about a min a month

wakeboardar

crono 2599.80
ive got one of these great watch bit heavy though but i like that
did you get yours from blitz i got a good deal out of them by pricematching
rrp 1600 i got it less than 1300

rgv_stu

i nearly got one of them instead, as i like all the dials , but just seemed too bulky on the wrist, felt nearly twice as thick as the normal one. they were about £1025 in sydney airport !!

yoza

I sold my SeaMaster to BIGSINKY, it was a full size auto, my bird wears a Mid size Quartz (along with various other models of MINE.. )

Ive also sold an Omega GMT to Andy who uses this site,who later had grief with it and took it back to a dealer who refunded his money, all these Omega's had good and bad points.

The one which performed the best was the mid sized quartz.....thats why I havent sold it..

Ive gone off Omega's.....they are not of the quality that I thought they were.

The older the model the better the quality and precision...

I would invest your money in a £1250+ Breitling if I was you.

If you are not going to wear your watch 24-7, I suggest you buy a quality Quartz, as an auto will need re-setting if you leave it for 24hrs or so.

Once its reserve expires due to lack of movement it stops.

If you want quality at a good price search for POLJOT..and study the form..

If you want a second wrist model, run your preferance past me through PM, and I will see whats in my vault..

Later Yoza.

PS..About time we had a watch thread, Ive had withdrawal symptoms of late..