jasonius

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Interesting as I'd have sworn oilman said Mobil 1 WASN'T a true sythetic in an earlier post (the HUGE one that sparked the oil debate off again about 12 months ago, maybe someone could look the tread up..?)

As to having to be a chemist to sell/recommend oil, I don't agree. In the same way as I don't need to be a metalurgist (sp?) to know that Henkels make excellent chefs knives or a tyre dealer needs to be a 'rubberist' (that's 'rubberist' PSL and not rubberwrist )..!

s70rjw

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Totally agree... But even this won't put the debate to bed (5/40 Synthetic Exol Vimax)

BVM

10 August 2005, 15:44
oilman
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Mobil1 IS a true synthetic!

Royal Purple will not state what's in their oils so who knows.

Cheers
Simon


Quote:
Originally Posted by BVM
Royal Purple is great! I used to be a Mobil 1 fan till I found out they arent really a true synthetic oil any more. Of course now I pay quite a bit more for the RP over M1. Now if I could just get their 75w90 and 75w90ns so I can fill the tranny and diff.

oilman

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I have NEVER said that M1 is not a true synthetic - FACT!

Why would I say that, I stock it and know exactly what it is.

These futile and character assinating threads really pi$$ me off!

Cheers
Simon

Dark Blue Mark

Tribologist Pete

MB

JohnD

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Ahhh - and there's me thinking that was the study of inhabitants of the South American rain forest! (as this thread is rapidly going nowhere?)

JohnD

jasonius

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My apologies Simon, I wrongly interpreted (sp?) this post.


http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthrea...ighlight=mobil

John Roberts

hello all

Went to the motor factors to see what their recommendation book/pamphlet thingy had to say on the matter of oil for a classic turbo.....

They stock shell helix plus (semi) and ultra (fully) among others. The shell book recommended both the above oils for the classic turbo.....I saw it in print with my own eyes.
I think that the minimum is 10w40 semi synth changed at 7500....but I believe it can't do any harm to upgrade to 5 40 fully synthetic and still change at 7500........ a respected main dealer up north who serviced mine for the first few services used shell helix 5 40 fully synth; so some main dealers also think that fully synth is an improvement on the standard fit 10w40 semi synth.

I have been reading this thread with interest and as a newbie with a standard road car that wont be tracked or modified I'm gonna spend the 10quid or so extra to keep the scoob on shell helix ultra 5 40 fully synth.

Thanks all
John

pslewis

I said to speak with AUTHORITY!!!

He poo-poos others contributions if they are at odds with his business spamming activities ..................... plenty of people understand Oil (or can read about it, as he does!)

I am sure the Oil Oilman sells is excellent as I have said MANY times before, I am sure that he offers outstanding service and the Oil will do as it says.

I just agree with SUBARU and fill my sump with Semi ......... just because I do that and tell others to, does NOT mean that I talk out of my rear end!

Pete

RJL_WRX05

I have a MY05 WRX with 5k on the clock. The handbook says part synthetic 5-30 oil SL rating A1/B1. I was gonna put magnatec 5-30 in, is this ok do u reckon? All the ratings etc on the can match up with what the handbook recommends. Surely they would say fully synthetic if it needed it, then they could hike the serviving costs up?? In Halfords book/guide they say fully synthetic for the earlier model cars but semi for newage models?? The handbook also says 4litre sump capacity, is this correct as I am sure people have said 4.5 on here before??

oilman

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You can use a 5w-30 semi no problem, in the UK we tend to use 5w-40 as 5w-30 is more of an economy grade.

According to my records it will take 4.5ltr.

Cheers

Simon.

Mr Power

You sad, sad man!
What do you do for a living mate? Whatever it is would it be safe to say your knowlegde on the subject is going to be fairly comprehensive?
Oilman sells oils FFS, of course he is going to be knowledgeable about them, otherwise his business would not be successful.
By your own admission you have not purchased oil from oilman, but you still want to know his qualifications? Why? Whats it got to do with you? You put 15 quid cooking oil in your engine, remember?
As regard qualifications, i think they are over rated. Before you say someone without any would say this, i have A levels and a BSc joint hons degree. What do qualifications tell you? That Joe Bloggs taught you X subject and you achieved a fair memory recall of that info in the concluding examination. In other words not a fuking lot! I would prefer the opinion of someone who was passionate about the subject, whos livelihood depended on being an authority on the subject. Does it matter where oilman gleaned his knowledge from? You have to learn it from somewhere.
All the knowlegde you have pslewis, where did you pick that up from? Somebody informed you mate. Does this mean you can not speak of the subject because the info is second hand?
Also, those who are following this thread, would you buy pslewis' car second hand knowing he puts 15 quid oil in it?
That would make an interesting poll.......

BVM

5w30 is economy grade???? Dude what are you talking about? Did you mean more common?

FYI, The new 500+hp 475ftlbs, low 11 second off the show room floor Corvette Z06, comes factory filled with 5w30.

BVM

Why are you trying to knock his car? Semi-synthetic oil is perfectly fine.

Conterpoint: Who would you be more inclined to believe?

Guy A sells oil for a living. So the typical salesman is going to tell you what ever he thinks will make you buy from HIM.

Guy B Doesnt sell oil. Guy B does not profit in any way by the oil he recommends in his unbiased personal experience with various brands.


Yep, Guy B, thank you very much.

Adam M

I am with PSLewis on this.

I have no problems with Oilman selling his oil, but I can't stand the once in a while "let me help you out by teaching you all a question you didn't ask" posts.

They are so arrogant and condescending.

I would far rather see these ramblings posted on his website, and as an authorised advertiser he should just put up a post saying special christmas offer.

I made this point in another one of these threads just last week.

Another "I am going to help you all out" thread he started last week.

A straight to the point promotional thread would be far mroe welcome.

And as for character assasinations being expected from scoobynet, from what I have heard and seen there are plenty other car forums who spot your self promotional threads a mile off.

As I have said on many occasions, keep selling, but don't pretend to be an oil savior.

You say you have been asked a question many times, but 99% of us don't know that, so if you want to impart your knowledge then refer people to your website. It just strikes me that you are the only authorised advertiser who does this.

oilman

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No,

I meant economy, fuel economy.

Cheers

Simon.

pslewis

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, someone registered in November 2005 eh??

Sorry Mr Power, some may even think you are normally known as Oilman But I wouldn't think that, salesman or not, he would do that ....... would he?

So, I shall ignore your comments .... I actually haven't even read them!

Pete

pslewis

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, someone registered in November 2005 eh??

Sorry Mr Power, some may even think you are normally known as Oilman

But I wouldn't think that, salesman or not, he wouldn't do that ....... would he?

So, I shall ignore your comments .... I actually haven't even read them!

Pete

BVM

Be more specific next time!

Now for an oil to improve your fuel economy, it would have to do a few things, most importantly reduce drag. Well when it comes to engines, less drag = more power. Therefore the lowest grade oil that is considered within the viscosity recommended by the cars manufacture would be better. So why recommend the thicker oil? Its not like anyone has stated their car is getting up there in mileage and the looser tolerances could benefit from a slightly thicker oil.
Maybe I should change my user-name to scoobygurugodthing and I could just pass off my opinions or poor information as fact.... oh yeah, that job is all ready taken.

oilman

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Yes,

For oil to be a fuel economy oil it needs to be thinner so lees drag you are absolutly correct.

Why would you use a thicker one, well there are many reasons of course.

You should know that.

Cheers

Simon.

BVM

I just told you that.. but my point is why would you recommend that the guy in post #70 run 5w40? He clearly stated he owns a MY05 (that's Model Year 2005) STi with only 5k (that's 5,000 miles) on it. He should stick with the FACTORY filled 5w30. Even more so now that its winter.

You see, even though I am no "oilman" I do have common sense and reading comprehension skills.

oilman

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I suggest you go back and have another read of post #70 and #71 with your accute reading skills and inform me where I recomended he used 5w-40?

Cheers

Simon.

BVM

Right there genius


Quote:
Originally Posted by RJL_WRX05
I have a MY05 WRX with 5k on the clock. The handbook says part synthetic 5-30 oil SL rating A1/B1. I was gonna put magnatec 5-30 in, is this ok do u reckon? All the ratings etc on the can match up with what the handbook recommends. Surely they would say fully synthetic if it needed it, then they could hike the serviving costs up?? In Halfords book/guide they say fully synthetic for the earlier model cars but semi for newage models?? The handbook also says 4litre sump capacity, is this correct as I am sure people have said 4.5 on here before??

You can use a 5w-30 semi no problem, in the UK we tend to use 5w-40 as 5w-30 is more of an economy grade.

According to my records it will take 4.5ltr.

Cheers

Simon.

What if ?

And there's my agreeing it's best and you use my post to reply in a negative way and didn't answer my question. Ho hum ! I'll ask someone else and get my oil there then.

oilman

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Surely you can read that for your self.

I did not recomend he used 5w-40 as you accused me of doing, as you can see I just said we tend to use it in the uk instead of, which is true.

I also appear to have said that 5w-30 semi was fine.

So, I am not sure where you are going with this, perhaps you would like to tell me?

Cheers

Simon.

oilman

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Very sorry,

Got so cought up I forgot to give you an answer.

For your MY05 you can use a 5w-30 semi, 10w-40 semi, 5w-30 full synthetic or 5w-40 fully for greater hot end protection.

Unless the car is extremely modified then there is no need to go to a thicker viscosity.

Cheers

Simon.

BVM

You implied he use 5w40 because 5w30 is more for 'economy'. Its only after I pointed out your use of the word 'economy' implied cheap, inferior or basic. Once I pointed that out, you changed or clarified (hows that?) you meant to say fuel economy.

Like I have said over and over and over..... you seem to read and regurgitate instead of drawing upon first hand knowledge of the subject. BUT, that's just the impression I gather from your posts.

oilman

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I "implied" now.... hhmmm, earlier I was recomending according to you.

I should have stated that I meant fuel economy and you are absolutly correct on that.

As for the rest, just seems your clutching at straws now.

Cheers

Simon.

BVM

Don't argue semantics with me... I was trying to allow you an easy way out.

<insert french accent>
Now go away before I taunt you for a second time.</>

oilman

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Curious, but an easy way out of what?

Cheers

Simon.