Tesco 99RON and MPG
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Originally Posted by Daz1121
I've just done a run from Wirral to NEC Birmingham and back again this weekend. Car is a Classic 2000 Turbo with Magnex system 1st cat back. Done a steady 3000-3500rpm in 5th gear on the motorways and it was a 250mile round trip of which 230miles was all on motorways. Using Shell Optimax average fuel consumption was 28mpg which I thought was fairly good. Might try same run next time with Tesco's 99RON and see how the figures compare.
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The beauty is that, at 2900 RPM you are travelling at about 75MPH
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No speeding ticket AND money in the bank due to a saving on petrol ... everyones a winner!!
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Originally Posted by pslewis
The trick is to keep just under 3000 RPM ..... then the mpg shoots up to the 35+ area ![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
The beauty is that, at 2900 RPM you are travelling at about 75MPH![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
No speeding ticket AND money in the bank due to a saving on petrol ... everyones a winner!!![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Pete
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The beauty is that, at 2900 RPM you are travelling at about 75MPH
![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
No speeding ticket AND money in the bank due to a saving on petrol ... everyones a winner!!
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Pete
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Not in mine, its not!
Have we located the reason for the difference in mpg??
Pete
Have we located the reason for the difference in mpg??
Pete
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Bearing in mind your background Pete, think Chernobyl.
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Originally Posted by ricardo
Yes. Measurement error.
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Bearing in mind your background Pete, think Chernobyl.
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Bearing in mind your background Pete, think Chernobyl.
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I think that depending if you your is UK spec or an import is a major factor on how many revs you do at what speed. I heard that some of the Jap imports are limited to 114mph so rev hight for the speed they are doing where as the UK spec cars rev much lower at comparable speeds.
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Originally Posted by Kosy
If mpg is what you pride yourself on why dont you do the whole Subaru
community a favour..... sell up and buy diesel Passat or something![Wink](images/smilies/wink.gif)
community a favour..... sell up and buy diesel Passat or something
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Thats a bit pretentious of you as:-
a) ScoobyNet probably only consists of 20% of the Subaru Community
and
b) Some actually enjoy my style .... you don't, that makes you very odd
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My brake pads and discs are still original at 63500miles .... I am actually getting concerned over this as it appears to be well over the 'normal' - I suspect that changing them will be difficult as they haven't been disturbed in 5 1/2 years.
63500 and original brakes?????????
There good for about 5000 miles and even then there like banana's
What on earth is going on??????? Have you got a middle pedal????
Are you one of those people who starts slowing down half a mile before a roundabout?????
63500 and original brakes?????????
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What on earth is going on??????? Have you got a middle pedal????
Are you one of those people who starts slowing down half a mile before a roundabout?????
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Originally Posted by hawko
My brake pads and discs are still original at 63500miles .... I am actually getting concerned over this as it appears to be well over the 'normal' - I suspect that changing them will be difficult as they haven't been disturbed in 5 1/2 years.
63500 and original brakes?????????
There good for about 5000 miles and even then there like banana's
What on earth is going on??????? Have you got a middle pedal????
Are you one of those people who starts slowing down half a mile before a roundabout?????
63500 and original brakes?????????
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What on earth is going on??????? Have you got a middle pedal????
Are you one of those people who starts slowing down half a mile before a roundabout?????
But 64,000miles has just been turned and the brakes are the same as they were when they left the shores of Japan!
I do drive with vision, I slow before junctions and roundabouts ..... if you use your brakes you have wasted energy (wasted energy = wasted money!)
Pete
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I do drive with vision, I slow before junctions and roundabouts ..... if you use your brakes you have wasted energy (wasted energy = wasted money!)
Pete
Pete
Wasted enery is good, more fun!!
Why don't you buy a Dumb, sorry Smart car??
And how on earth could YOU ever experience brake fade???????? apart from having sticking calipers that is .....but then again, not with your 500 miles from a tank
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You are new here .........
I guess you still drive like a wally, just because you think you have to??
Nah, eventually you will learn how to drive properly and then you will grace the top table with me
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I guess you still drive like a wally, just because you think you have to??
Nah, eventually you will learn how to drive properly and then you will grace the top table with me
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Originally Posted by pslewis
You are new here .........
I guess you still drive like a wally, just because you think you have to??
Nah, eventually you will learn how to drive properly and then you will grace the top table with me
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I guess you still drive like a wally, just because you think you have to??
Nah, eventually you will learn how to drive properly and then you will grace the top table with me
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Pete
Do you fall asleep whilst driving??????? mmmmm that's safe!!
Get ya turbo glowing and brakes burning, you might enjoy it???
ps dont expect more than 16 mpg though, but WHO CARES
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Originally Posted by pslewis
The trick is to keep just under 3000 RPM ..... then the mpg shoots up to the 35+ area ![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
The beauty is that, at 2900 RPM you are travelling at about 75MPH![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
No speeding ticket AND money in the bank due to a saving on petrol ... everyones a winner!!![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Pete
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The beauty is that, at 2900 RPM you are travelling at about 75MPH
![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
No speeding ticket AND money in the bank due to a saving on petrol ... everyones a winner!!
![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Pete
And surely, if that is all you have to get out of the car, surely another more sensible buy would have been the way to go?
I am lost
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Please explain yourself you silly tnuc.
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Originally Posted by MaDaSS
You sad ****! Are you really driving an Impreza? Seriously though, and laughs aside Pete, why did you buy one? I mean, you know you dont really drive like that you just say that on there so ppl like me can swear at you!
And surely, if that is all you have to get out of the car, surely another more sensible buy would have been the way to go?
I am lost
I just dont get why you would buy any kind of Impreza to drive like that.
Please explain yourself you silly tnuc.
And surely, if that is all you have to get out of the car, surely another more sensible buy would have been the way to go?
I am lost
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Please explain yourself you silly tnuc.
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I am the one that gives Subaru Imprezas a GOOD name ............. you, driving like a complete dork, are dragging the good name through the mud of CHAV Alley!! STOP NOW!
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Gutted ......
I pride myself on my MPG ..... usually hovers around 35mpg
I have used Sainsburys 97RON for years ........
Thought I would try Tesco 99RON in the last tankful - filled it to the brim as it was 94p ........
I reckon I have dropped to 18-22mpg!!!
Now either the Pikeys are nicking it .... or Tesco 99RON is CRAP for your MPG figures!!![EEK!](images/smilies/eek.gif)
NOT HAPPY!!!!!!![Frown](images/smilies/frown.gif)
Pete
I pride myself on my MPG ..... usually hovers around 35mpg
I have used Sainsburys 97RON for years ........
Thought I would try Tesco 99RON in the last tankful - filled it to the brim as it was 94p ........
I reckon I have dropped to 18-22mpg!!!
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Now either the Pikeys are nicking it .... or Tesco 99RON is CRAP for your MPG figures!!
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NOT HAPPY!!!!!!
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Pete,
Their is a difference between driving like a prat and driving reasonably quickly where conditions allow.
On MPG, while my car used to be a weekend car, it now gets used all the time. MPG between fun and normal driving never seemed to vary too much and was about ~20, swapped to 95ron (STi Type UK) last week and my MPG has gone up !
Their is a difference between driving like a prat and driving reasonably quickly where conditions allow.
On MPG, while my car used to be a weekend car, it now gets used all the time. MPG between fun and normal driving never seemed to vary too much and was about ~20, swapped to 95ron (STi Type UK) last week and my MPG has gone up !
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Originally Posted by Gary C
Pete,
Their is a difference between driving like a prat and driving reasonably quickly where conditions allow.
Their is a difference between driving like a prat and driving reasonably quickly where conditions allow.
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But, I get cheesed off with CHAVS telling me I shouldn't own one of the best cars in the world, just because I don't drive like they do (like a complete utter ********!)
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I have seen them ........ BIG exhaust, Music blasting, Baseball Cap wearing, CockLink watching GIMPS ............ Derrrrr brains!!
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Well, i don't expect good MPG. but i won't be drivng my car like a chav.
I have learnt my lesson about speed. There is a time and a place.
I worry about MPG in my work car, not my weekend toy.
G.
I have learnt my lesson about speed. There is a time and a place.
I worry about MPG in my work car, not my weekend toy.
G.
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I agree ........... of course, the speed limit puts a brake on driving at whatever speed you desire!
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But, I get cheesed off with CHAVS telling me I shouldn't own one of the best cars in the world, just because I don't drive like they do (like a complete utter ********!)![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
I have seen them ........ BIG exhaust, Music blasting, Baseball Cap wearing, CockLink watching GIMPS ............ Derrrrr brains!!![Wink](images/smilies/wink.gif)
Pete
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But, I get cheesed off with CHAVS telling me I shouldn't own one of the best cars in the world, just because I don't drive like they do (like a complete utter ********!)
![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
I have seen them ........ BIG exhaust, Music blasting, Baseball Cap wearing, CockLink watching GIMPS ............ Derrrrr brains!!
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Pete
P.s.. i am not sure if i will get one yet...
G.
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CockLinks make a difference??
Lets look at the facts shall we??
1. The Impreza has a Knock Sensor already, why duplicate it?
2. The Subaru Knock Sensor is attached to, and talks directly to, the ECU.
3. The CockLink is FULLY adjustable .... adjust it until you only get a green light, WTF??
It is an utterly pointless piece of crap ....... fully deserving of its COCKLINK title!
If it is set up properly, and remember its adjustable!! By the time you have seen a RED light, your brain has registered it (remember that if you have a CockLink your brain is much slower than normal!). you have adjusted your throttle position, you have a blown up engine!!!
So, at its BEST, it tells you with a RED light that your engine has gone BANG!!
Thats GOOD then!!!!![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
Pete
Lets look at the facts shall we??
1. The Impreza has a Knock Sensor already, why duplicate it?
2. The Subaru Knock Sensor is attached to, and talks directly to, the ECU.
3. The CockLink is FULLY adjustable .... adjust it until you only get a green light, WTF??
It is an utterly pointless piece of crap ....... fully deserving of its COCKLINK title!
If it is set up properly, and remember its adjustable!! By the time you have seen a RED light, your brain has registered it (remember that if you have a CockLink your brain is much slower than normal!). you have adjusted your throttle position, you have a blown up engine!!!
So, at its BEST, it tells you with a RED light that your engine has gone BANG!!
Thats GOOD then!!!!
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Originally Posted by GrahamG
P.s.. i am not sure if i will get one yet...
G.
High temps & det. aren't an issue if you never drive on boost.
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Originally Posted by Houghton
Don't let Pete influence your decision on a K/L.
High temps & det. aren't an issue if you never drive on boost.![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
High temps & det. aren't an issue if you never drive on boost.
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The Subaru Knock Sensor and ECU do a good enough job!
Don't waste your money ............ unless, of course, your brain doesn't work properly
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But then you will buy ANYTHING!!
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Can I interest you in a Timewarp device I have invented - lots of pretty lights - will increase your sexual prowess too!! £999 to you!
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Originally Posted by Houghton
Don't let Pete influence your decision on a K/L.
High temps & det. aren't an issue if you never drive on boost.![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
High temps & det. aren't an issue if you never drive on boost.
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I am getting a Power FC
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Originally Posted by pslewis
CockLinks make a difference??
If it is set up properly, and remember its adjustable!! By the time you have seen a RED light, your brain has registered it (remember that if you have a CockLink your brain is much slower than normal!). you have adjusted your throttle position, you have a blown up engine!!!
Pete
If it is set up properly, and remember its adjustable!! By the time you have seen a RED light, your brain has registered it (remember that if you have a CockLink your brain is much slower than normal!). you have adjusted your throttle position, you have a blown up engine!!!
Pete
Knock does not destroy an engine straight away. It is cumulative damage (as far as I remember). The knocklink could be used as a diagnostic tool in certain circumstances, warning of knock occuring and allowing the user to do something about it (anyone know if the factory knock sensor can fail without the ECU knowing ?).
The quote 'remember that if you have a CockLink your brain is much slower than normal!' tends to suggest intollerance, come on your better than that.
As to their effectivness of actually detecting knock, I cannot say.
Anyway, as to why your MPG has gone down, does anyone know if the calorific values of 95,98,99 are the same ?
Seems odd that mine has gone up with 95.
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From the title I was hoping there would be some useful debate in here regarding the release of 99RON fuel at Tesco, but it just seems to have turned into a stage for Mr Lewis to entertain himself by playing devil's advocate.
Would anyone care to get this thread back on topic as I, and I'm sure a few others, are genuinely interested in the fuel?
Thanks.
Would anyone care to get this thread back on topic as I, and I'm sure a few others, are genuinely interested in the fuel?
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Gary C
Not sure that is totally correct.
Knock does not destroy an engine straight away. It is cumulative damage (as far as I remember). The knocklink could be used as a diagnostic tool in certain circumstances, warning of knock occuring and allowing the user to do something about it (anyone know if the factory knock sensor can fail without the ECU knowing ?).
Knock does not destroy an engine straight away. It is cumulative damage (as far as I remember). The knocklink could be used as a diagnostic tool in certain circumstances, warning of knock occuring and allowing the user to do something about it (anyone know if the factory knock sensor can fail without the ECU knowing ?).
Of course pinking doesn't blow your engine up as the ***** say, well - not straight away anyway ............
The objection I have about the CockLink is that you can actually ADJUST it to get a green light if it is showing red ................. thats like bending the fuel gauge pointer upwards if you don't like it saying that you are empty!! ie. it's completely useless!!
Back to fuel ............ I now have Sainburys in and seem to be running up at 28mpg (which is a truly remarkable turnaround from the TESCO stuff)
I've never seen anything like it ....... Tesco 99 RON makes my mpg halve!!
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I will risk it again, just to check - but watching the gauge moving had me thinking that I really was losing fuel through a hole or something!
Pete
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Originally Posted by NXG
From the title I was hoping there would be some useful debate in here regarding the release of 99RON fuel at Tesco, but it just seems to have turned into a stage for Mr Lewis to entertain himself by playing devil's advocate.
Would anyone care to get this thread back on topic as I, and I'm sure a few others, are genuinely interested in the fuel?
Thanks.
Would anyone care to get this thread back on topic as I, and I'm sure a few others, are genuinely interested in the fuel?
Thanks.
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