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Old 06 December 2005, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Vegescoob
Listen from 2.00 am onwards, always a better sound imho.
I tried that but although the sound was cleaner there was also an unusual banging noise coming through the walls
Old 06 December 2005, 05:49 PM
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Hi Ru,

Yep thats exactly right,have a read about mains phasing in hi end audio..

There are plenty of sites that have loads of info on Shuko's,i even think Maplin sell them now!!!

Have a good google and see how you go,......
Old 06 December 2005, 05:50 PM
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@Daz34 -- see, it's amazing what extra detail you get when you listen at 2am. You wouldn't have heard it otherwise

Thanks for the advice all, I'll have a play with platforms & plugs
Old 06 December 2005, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Daz34
I tried that but although the sound was cleaner there was also an unusual banging noise coming through the walls
for the 2 a.m improvements all the time, try one of these-
http://www.isoteksystems.com/minisub.asp
about 600 quid, but its the best upgrade ive made to my system in a while
Old 06 December 2005, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Daz34
I tried that but although the sound was cleaner there was also an unusual banging noise coming through the walls
Semi or the partner!
Those partners or neighbours, no musical appreciation.
Me, I just listen as I want.

Old 06 December 2005, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by fatscoobyfella
There are plenty of sites that have loads of info on Shuko's,i even think Maplin sell them now!!!

Have a good google and see how you go,......
Hmmm, only found some dubious martial arts weapons and throwback european type plugs.

I don't understand this hifi stuff, but I can offer some great snake oil for £15 a sachet which is guaranteed to polarize the audio electrons in the interconnects, mains leads or hi-fi stands for a much purer sound
Old 06 December 2005, 09:33 PM
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DIY speaker cables made with braided Cat 5 is supposed to be the way to go (and cheap too). Read about it here or just do a Google search.
Old 06 December 2005, 10:08 PM
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Shuko's are european..Just look like a circular plug with 2 prongs instead of 3.

Hi end stuff is all subjective to the listeners ear,as a rule you have to spend big money to even make the smallest difference sometimes.If your happy with your front end,amp and speakers.Cabling,filtering and positioning is the only real way forward,even this can run into loadsa dosh,if you let it!!!

Hi end is the visciousist(is that a word??) circle of them all!!!
Old 06 December 2005, 11:12 PM
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Oh come on, let's be honest.
Scoobys, Evos, CTRs, ITRs etc, hifis, it's us boys playing with our toys.
'Cos it's fun.
Old 07 December 2005, 07:58 AM
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Well said!
Old 07 December 2005, 08:12 AM
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True enough Vege,but we all have our passions.Why have a scoob,when you can have a Focus?,Why have an Omega seamaster,when you can have a Seiko?,Why have a full Naim line up,when you can have a Matsui?
Horses for courses,and of course,as overgrown little boys we should feel free to indulge ourselves at every oppertunity..
Old 07 December 2005, 08:16 AM
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Nordost Blue Heaven Rev. 2 speaker cable
Old 07 December 2005, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by MJW
Nordost Blue Heaven Rev. 2 speaker cable

That would just be overkill.
Look at his system.
Old 07 December 2005, 09:26 AM
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Although Nordost ARE selling off Blue Heaven cheaply at the moment now that they have new lines on the market. Might not be as prohbitive as you think. Whether it would be substantially better than Flatline Gold though is open to debate.
Old 07 December 2005, 11:38 AM
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Separate spur off the house distribution, decent plugs and power cable, clean all fuses/holders and power connections (not just the audio connections). Blu tack under amplifier/cd-player feet, remove speaker grills, experiment with felt on flat surface around tweeter. Play with speaker positioning.

Little bit more involved - rip out the **** analogue stage (including *all* filtering) in the Marantz and replace with a nice discrete transistor using LED to provide a constant load.

Oh, and don't forget a big fat dooby

Richard
Old 07 December 2005, 03:31 PM
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What I did do last night was to clean / treat the INTERNAL fuses and the power connections into the main boards after the transformers in both CD player & amp with DeOxit and ProGold. Also right inside the phono connections on each component with lint-free cloth.

Sounded great

The large glass of Rock Hill Farms on ice helped too
Old 07 December 2005, 03:33 PM
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Have you tried the brick in a tea-towel yet? If not, that's tonight's project
Old 07 December 2005, 03:47 PM
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PMSL at a phase shift on AC.

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Old 07 December 2005, 05:30 PM
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Brick / tea-towel -- low Wife Acceptance Factor unfortunately, system is based in living room .... but v heavy hardback book with black cover -- no problem

By the way, are things like Statmats and those DeMag CDs complete snake oil, or worthwhile ...?
Old 07 December 2005, 05:34 PM
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Actually Denon's DeMagic does make a difference, especially on the more budget-oriented end of the spectrum. For £15 or so, definitely worth a spin, so to say.
Old 07 December 2005, 06:09 PM
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Just got one word for you: stickers.

http://www.soundstage.com/synergize/synergize041999.htm
Old 07 December 2005, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Although Nordost ARE selling off Blue Heaven cheaply at the moment now that they have new lines on the market. Might not be as prohbitive as you think. Whether it would be substantially better than Flatline Gold though is open to debate.
Was in my system (for speaker cable anyway). The slightly worrying thing is that Blue Heaven Rev 2 also worked better in my system than Red Dawn Rev 2, dealer agreed - hence I went the "cheaper" way for the blue heaven 2. Fantastic cable in the right application, but even on special offer at the moment, you can't describe it as what most people would describe as a budget tweak, and it would be overkill unless you have at least a couple of £k.

The ultimate answer is of course to go with Valhalla all round (speaker, interconnect and mains leads), plus multiple sets of titanium pulsar points, a very nice rack and ideally a dedicated mains spur etc. The slight issue there being that you'd end up spending the price of a new STi on cabling, power and isolation alone and still need the hi-fi to go with it!
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Originally Posted by brickboy
I'm pretty happy with my modest system but wondered if there are any decent, lowish cost tweaks worth trying?

I've used Caig contact cleaner on all connections, components are on a reasonable Soundstyle rack, speakers on Atacamas filled with lead shot and positioned correctly.

Marantz CD63SE, Planar 2 with Goldring cart, Sony TA246, KEF Coda8, Ixos interconnect and QED silver anni cable with gold spade terminations.

Any helpful suggestions welcome
I've not read the thread completely but I have not seen anyone mention Bi-Wiring your speakers.... that's worth doing I've done that on my Ruark's with Ixos cables.

I'm sure I've still got 2 wall mounted soundstyle stands for single componants to rest on about here somewhere if anyone is interested I'll track them down.

You can also get replacment feet for the Rega I've replaced the rubber one's on mine with some metal spiked ones also there is a weight that you drop on the album as it rests on the turntable, that sits on the centre spike.
Old 08 December 2005, 09:39 AM
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The Kefs only have a single set of binding posts, so can't biwire properly even though the amp has the capability ...

Ah yes, good old morphic resonance

It's a sound psychological principle, but whether you need to spend a fortune on Mr Belt's clips, creams and foils is another matter. Personally I prefer to wipe a bit of my snot on the back of each component and shout "Who's the daddy" three times before each listening session
Old 08 December 2005, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by brickboy
The Kefs only have a single set of binding posts, so can't biwire properly even though the amp has the capability ...

Ah yes, good old morphic resonance

It's a sound psychological principle, but whether you need to spend a fortune on Mr Belt's clips, creams and foils is another matter. Personally I prefer to wipe a bit of my snot on the back of each component and shout "Who's the daddy" three times before each listening session
Aha!
Now that is where you are going wrong, for the magic to really work it's not snot you should use....................






























































If you want that deep union between man and reproduction system.

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