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Old 12 December 2005, 10:26 AM
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There were no speed limit signs illuminated and there was no variable limit in place at that time on any of the southbound stretch of the M25. This was half nine on Friday night and it was dead.
Old 12 December 2005, 11:06 AM
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use the pace defence. I believe freak can shed some more light on this

http://pepipoo.com/NewForums2/viewtopic.php?t=2846
Old 12 December 2005, 11:09 AM
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I got done doing 81 in a 70. I think there is a good chance you will have a letter in the mail!
Old 12 December 2005, 11:25 AM
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I agree with the earlier comment, everytime I am on the M25 I will sit just under 100 providing the numbers aren't illuminated as they only work when the variable limit is on. Been doing it for years and no tickets through the post yet.
Old 12 December 2005, 12:09 PM
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speeding on the m25 =
Old 12 December 2005, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Wait and see. 81mph "actual" speed is enough for them to bother to prosecute (10% +3mph IIRC).
Tell me about it. I've just received a summons for 81mph on the A38.

If you get banned I understand that you 'lose' the points after the ban has been expended but this may depend on the length of ban - over 58 days. Is this correct?
Old 12 December 2005, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bakerman
I agree with the earlier comment, everytime I am on the M25 I will sit just under 100 providing the numbers aren't illuminated as they only work when the variable limit is on. Been doing it for years and no tickets through the post yet.
That's why I found it so odd. I usually sit at 85ish on the speedo to play it safe when there's no limit in place and I've never seen a camera go off and I've heard stories like yours. The other night I was actually keeping up with traffic and it went off at me
Old 12 December 2005, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by paulpalmer
That's why I found it so odd. I usually sit at 85ish on the speedo to play it safe when there's no limit in place and I've never seen a camera go off and I've heard stories like yours. The other night I was actually keeping up with traffic and it went off at me
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My speed on M25 is exactly the same. IN hundreds of times on there, I've seen cameras go off about 4-5 times, and generally on the opposite carriageway (and then when the signs are illuminated).

I wonder, if now the roadworks are gone, they have decided to use them more for speeding and revenue generating than before when it was set with a high threshold. I do know that I have seen people run through them at over 20mph (ie at 65mph when the signs show 40) and they have not been flashed, but the ones on these gantry's are the older models that require the digital images to be manually collected.

I wonder if the new ones (erected during the roadworks) are the newer ones which are always on and send the images without human interaction - it would make sense to have this newer technology installed at this time. If this is the case, it means people will forever be speeding up and slowing down, which in itself is bloody dangerous....
Old 12 December 2005, 12:32 PM
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Unless they have moved the goal posts re the trigger point i'm very suprised that you got a flash.

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Old 12 December 2005, 12:43 PM
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Why are people surprised to be flashed by a speed camera when they know they are breaking the limit? Don't speed and you wont get flashed, ever!
Old 12 December 2005, 02:08 PM
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M25 Speed limits are already set according to traffic flow and density on a stretch of the London orbital . During free-flowing traffic, the limit is 70mph but can fall to 30mph.

So if your doing above the speed limit






...............corner
Old 12 December 2005, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by paulpalmer
There was no tempory speed limit in place. If there was I always stick to those religiously. I have a clean license at the moment and have had since I started driving 13 years ago.
Somehow!
In all seriousness though I got flashed on that same stretch at 88 in my/your old Carlton GSI. Not once but twice. Nothing ever came of it.
You have to think of the amount of people who drive at that speed on the M25, if the camera were live it would run out of film in a day. So even if it was live the chance of it being maxed out would be remakably high.
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Old 12 December 2005, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by astraboy
You have to think of the amount of people who drive at that speed on the M25, if the camera were live it would run out of film in a day. So even if it was live the chance of it being maxed out would be remakably high.
astraboy.
The cameras are digital, so no film

Would you want to scale those rigs to change the film
Old 12 December 2005, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by astraboy
Somehow!
Cheeky barsteward I'm a careful driver I'll have you know
Old 12 December 2005, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Puff The Magic Wagon!
10% + 2mph are APCO guidelines but they can do you for anything over the posted limit.
Indeed, guy at my old work got done for doing 33 in a 30. Going by that rule he should have been safe upto 35.

Originally Posted by Puff The Magic Wagon!
The other thing that springs to mind is that those cameras are digital AND they don't flash, so what did?
I set off from a petrol station once, 30 into a 60 and i saw a flash out of the corner of my eye, we were convinced it was the national speed sign. I never heard anything. I drove home abit worried though!


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Old 12 December 2005, 04:43 PM
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Wouldn't worry too much mate, the cameras aren't set to trigger when the speed limit signs are off.
I use this section regularly (live just off J11) and have done so for many years. Never got a ticket yet.
The most worrying thing is the recent trend for each gantry to be set at a different speed limit for absolutely no reason. Last Tuesday afternoon I saw 60, 50, 40 , and even 20 mph signs in a journey between the M4 and the A3. Light traffic and the only obstuction was a broken down car on the hard shoulder. Surely reducing traffic to 20mph for a car on the hard shoulder isn't safe??
Old 12 December 2005, 04:45 PM
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before any smart **** posts, there wasn't any warnings on the Matrix system and there wasn't any debris in the road.
One of the plastic police road safety vehicles was in attendace. How I loathe this dumbing down of the traffic police.
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