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Old 14 December 2005, 05:26 PM
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Told you your car was loud

As for being illegal, yes and no, if it was put through a roadside emissions test it would fail, and if you read the small print bits for an MOT all cars after a certain year have to be fitted with catalytic convertors, but an MOT is only worth the paper its written on whilst its in the testing station.
Old 14 December 2005, 05:43 PM
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FPMSL... So from my original post you have deducted that Im a Chav?

I own my own company, I’m 30 y/o, have a nice house, I don’t wear or own any jewellery/Burberry/tracksuits/baseball caps etc, my girlfriend doesn’t own any "chav" accessories, we don’t claim any benefits, steal, do drugs, park outside MacDonald’s with tunes blasting out, intimidate the elderly, we aren’t on ASBO's () etc etc...

Oh and as for the car, I use it on the strip for straight-line events (see the results for SSII), the exhaust has been declared to my insurers which I pay extra for and is actually there to increase performance. Oh yeah, how exactly would I "get done" as you put it?
I wouldn't worry about it, "chav" seems to be the new black on here...it's commonly banded about on here with no thought for its original context. I was called one today too by the scoobynet village idiot (Hi Pete! ).
Old 14 December 2005, 06:06 PM
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i am 22, drive a P1 which is loud and touch wood i have never been pulled.

it is all about being in the wrong place at the wrong time.


Phil.
Old 14 December 2005, 06:27 PM
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In St Helens, the best town on the planet, I was pulled 27 times in a 12 month period when I was 18 and drove an e-reg 1.1 escort pop back in 1992-1993.
In the end we filed an offocial complaint for harrasment and the chief cunstable of Mersyside Police (commandant lassard or similar) came to my house to apologise and promised I would be left alone. I was never pulled again
In 1997 (or thereabouts) an ethnic dude was pulled 25 times in 12 months, filed it as RACIAL harrasment and got ££££ compo as a result ...
Unfortunately if you're young and or drive big boys cars you're gonna get pulled over from time to time. Just be respectful and hope its not a prat of a policeperson with 'poor pay crap hours jealousy' that pulls you over...
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Old 14 December 2005, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by PHILYB
i am 22, drive a P1 which is loud and touch wood i have never been pulled.

it is all about being in the wrong place at the wrong time.


Phil.
Hope they arrest you for being a lucky b@stard. 22. Sheesh.
Old 14 December 2005, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by PHILYB
it is all about being in the wrong place at the wrong time.


Phil.
No its NOT ........... its all about driving a car with an illegal exhaust system

All chavs with illegal exhausts, no CATS, CockLinks, Loud Music, Neons SHOULD be done EVERY time they start their cars!!

Until it is put right back to standard spec.

Oh, I suppose those with CockLinks could plead insanity quite convincingly!!

Pete
Old 14 December 2005, 07:45 PM
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Old 14 December 2005, 07:45 PM
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Why don't you apply a level of objectivity to your posts Pete and offer something constructive rather than the usual, and frankly boring, drivel about "chavs with illegal exhausts, no CATS, CockLinks, Loud Music" to name but a few of your pet hates.

You seem to enjoy personally attacking people by calling them "chavs" when I would severely doubt that many, if indeed any, of the members of this board are burberry cap wearing tax dodgers as you so readily imply.
Old 14 December 2005, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SimonGawthorpe
Strange that Mark, neither have I. Owned Scoobys for the last 3 years (since I was 21) and never been pulled over.

Makes be wonder, all these innocent people getting harassed on this thread, maybe just maybe, they were doing something wrong?? No, sorry, how silly of me, im sure they are all the perfect drivers that they think they are!!


Si
Well, i dont have to defend my actions to anyone really. BUT

As i said in my post, 7 times in court, 6 times no case to answer, did you read those last 4 words mate, NO CASE TO ANSWER. That is an entirely different verdict to not guilty.

So, if that comment was directed at me, the thought of lucky doesnt come into it, sheer harrasment. But thanks you for sharing a similar ******** attitude that is commely found in the force.

I must also add, id that comment was not directed at me, then a sorry is in order, but the same applies to any clown sharing the same oppinion

John
Old 15 December 2005, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jim litten
Told you your car was loud

As for being illegal, yes and no, if it was put through a roadside emissions test it would fail, and if you read the small print bits for an MOT all cars after a certain year have to be fitted with catalytic convertors, but an MOT is only worth the paper its written on whilst its in the testing station.
Thanks Jim!

Old 16 December 2005, 11:28 AM
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You would "get done" by the police for driving with an exhaust system thats unsuitably loud for crowded old Britain, thats how.

Not everyone apreciates the fact that you like to do some drag racing or whatever, why you feel its okay to drive around with an exhaust that is obviously illegaly loud, and then trying to justify it because you like to do track events (emphasis on the "you"), indicates a disregard for other people that have to put up with your "burble" tractor racket while you drive it on the public road, and this does scream out that you do have chav tendencies, as a large part of being a chav is disregard for others.

If you are the intelligent company owning individual you so modestly describe (applause please), maybe you are also intelligent enough to appreciate that you are affecting other people with your noise, and if the Police feel its illegally loud, then it must be pretty bad.

Get an exhaust with a removable baffle, why the hell would you drive around with an overly loud exhaust on normal roads without a suitable baflle? unless the local lads appreciate the fact you have a noisy car.
Old 16 December 2005, 12:22 PM
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I'm pretty sure that even if you tell your insurance company that you have changed the exhaust, if you had an accident and the pipe was found to be illegal for any reason, ie: noise or emmissions, the insurance company would be within their rights to not pay out.
Old 16 December 2005, 01:18 PM
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hi, @ the above post,

they would then have to test the vehicle, and even if that were true, then you would still be covered for 3rd party liabiulity.

so long as the car has a valid insurance certificate, i would think they would have a real hard job in getting a successful decision in court saying you were not in fact covered.

i do however aggree with the noise level and the general acceptance from joe pubic, im not a fan of it, but, so long as you dont drive past my car setting the alarm off, or waking me up, you aint causing me much of a problem.

however, to someone that you are causing a problem, it would need to be addressed

john
Old 16 December 2005, 03:20 PM
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There was a case a few years back where it was accepted by the court that if the insurance company took your money then they accepted the risk. While I am sure that the true legal situation is much more complex than that it does, however, seem likely that, given good representation, you could field a similar argument along the lines that they accepted the risk that you had a non-standard exhaust and that you paid for this additional risk.
Old 16 December 2005, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jim litten
Told you your car was loud

As for being illegal, yes and no, if it was put through a roadside emissions test it would fail, and if you read the small print bits for an MOT all cars after a certain year have to be fitted with catalytic convertors, but an MOT is only worth the paper its written on whilst its in the testing station.

not true,


cars must have a cat fitted for an mot test if tyhey had one when manufactured after 92 (i think) you do not by law have to have one fitted


Mart
Old 16 December 2005, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SideShowBob
Well hopefully you get done for it being too loud, the amount of chav Impreza drivers that have stupidly loud exhausts, its about time they started getting picked off for them.
are you gay
Old 16 December 2005, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mart360
not true,


cars must have a cat fitted for an mot test if tyhey had one when manufactured after 92 (i think) you do not by law have to have one fitted


Mart
it is a legal requirement for a car registered after 92 to be fitted with a cat
Old 17 December 2005, 06:41 AM
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i thought there was a thread in the scotish section about someone getting convicted, due to having a PPP backbox. He wrote to IM/ Subaru asking for help in the court case and was told they would refund his fine!!!!!!
Tried a search but can't find it.
Old 17 December 2005, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by briforbes
..... I was called one today too by the scoobynet village idiot (Hi Pete! ).
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Old 19 December 2005, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by waynev
are you gay
No, but thanks for the offer anyway.
Old 19 December 2005, 11:11 AM
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Took it to an MOT testing station, it passed, dropped off the certificate to the police station, kept a copy which is in the glove box just in case it happens again. End of.

SideShowBob....
Old 19 December 2005, 11:16 AM
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Well, it obviously isnt that loud then, and providing you dont drive like a muppet around houses etc, then I guess I was wrong about it being too loud for general road use.
As thats the case, I guess one of use owes the other an appology, which I accept

Ive been wound up lately by chavs driving round the housing estate recently like idiots, with massively loud exhausts, plus a scoob down the road with a big burbly exhaust, and it does start to wind a person up (ie, me), possibly because they actually think they're cool because of it, and everyones looking at them with envy, meanwhile its more like disdain.
Old 19 December 2005, 11:28 AM
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I must be lucky, I picked my car up and on the drive home over took and was followed by a policeman on a dual carriage way, he just smiled as I pulled in, in front of him. Since then I have had no problems, touch wood, and seen lots of police cars. The police in Cornwall seem to be OK, I am 29 and wear mostly surfy gear. Also saw loads on motorways from cornwall to doncaster and no probls. I have a loud-ish exhaust. Hopefully will keep being lucky.

Rob

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Old 19 December 2005, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SideShowBob
Well, it obviously isnt that loud then, and providing you dont drive like a muppet around houses etc, then I guess I was wrong about it being too loud for general road use.
As thats the case, I guess one of use owes the other an appology, which I accept

Ive been wound up lately by chavs driving round the housing estate recently like idiots, with massively loud exhausts, plus a scoob down the road with a big burbly exhaust, and it does start to wind a person up (ie, me), possibly because they actually think they're cool because of it, and everyones looking at them with envy, meanwhile its more like disdain.
Fair enough, but I did say in the first post, that the police said they werent experts and I may not have to get anything changed.

I know exactly what you mean, there's a house a bit further down the road from me and they have a son who's mate has a Civic that has a very loud exhaust and he lets everyone know when he's there, a combination of stupid sound system and pulling into the street flatout, cant believe his parents have gone off it at him. I have asked my neighbours if my car bothered them, they all said not as I dont take the pi55 and rev the engine. They can hear the car but as one of them said, its not intrusive.

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Old 19 December 2005, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by sirscooby
I must be lucky, I picked my car up and on the drive homr overte was followed, afteaking on a dual carriage way a road traffic police men, he just smiled as I pulled in, in front of him. Since then I have had no problems, touch wood, and seen lots of police cars. The police in Cornwall seem to be OK, I am 29 and wear mostly surfy gear. Also saw loads on motorways from cornwall to doncaster and no probls. I have a loud-ish exhaust. Hopefully will keep being lucky.

Rob
TBH, thats the same as I usually experience. I've had the car for 12 months without a problem, and I have done 30K miles this year as I have 120 mile daily commute and as such pass police cars usually everyday without any trouble.
Old 19 December 2005, 11:35 AM
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[quote=sirscooby]I must be lucky, I picked my car up and on the drive homr overte was followed, afteaking on a dual carriage way a road traffic police men, he just smiled as I pulled in, in front of him. Since then I have had no problems, touch wood, and seen lots of police cars. The police in Cornwall seem to be OK, I am 29 and wear mostly surfy gear. Also saw loads on motorways from cornwall to doncaster and no probls. I have a loud-ish exhaust. Hopefully will keep being lucky.

Rob
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c44/sirscooby/Cars/th_13-11028noplate.jpg[/quote]

I have no idea what the first two lines of this says, have you been drinking
Old 19 December 2005, 11:38 AM
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yes lots of caffeine, i have 29 children in my class watchin a movie as high as kites!! post edited!! I think!
Old 19 December 2005, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Typer Jim
I got pulled for what i was told was a spot check!!!!

Copper: 'Is this your car sir?'
Me: 'Yep, do you like it'
Copper: Gave me a funny look then started giving me the usual, name, addy etc etc etc.........
Me: 'Look mate, i know i have got a nice car and all that but if you wanna drive of it all you have got to do is ask'
Copper: 'Carry on sir, that's bound to get you knicked'

Obviously had a lobotomy during training, or was bullied at school.....
Ermm, hamg on a second, you are the one that came up with the smart arsed comment to him, not the other way around....believe me 10 of you a day gets very very boring....
Old 19 December 2005, 04:20 PM
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...the last person i want to see is a copper if and when i ever crash.
Well then let's hope they can't make it and the person that kills your passengers and rights off your car gets away scot free....idiot
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Originally Posted by Jay_bee
Took it to an MOT testing station, it passed, dropped off the certificate to the police station, kept a copy which is in the glove box just in case it happens again. End of.

SideShowBob....
sorted well done mate but i thought the procedure was that a copy had to be posted off to the courts/ summons dept.


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