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26 December 2005, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RR
I dont need your permission to view and post. As for scoobs there ****e, if your going to do the 4wd rally slag at least go buy a proper car like an Evo.
26 December 2005, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RR
I dont need your permission to view and post. As for scoobs there ****e, if your going to do the 4wd rally slag at least go buy a proper car like an Evo.
As for different leagues, all cars have the ability to span many speed tables, look at the likes of Andy F's car. Still just a scoob though.
As for different leagues, all cars have the ability to span many speed tables, look at the likes of Andy F's car. Still just a scoob though.
anyway
26 December 2005, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rexabusa
your talking from experience right, as in you have owned two or three scoobs+ evos
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26 December 2005, 05:41 PM
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ive read the thread, mmmm pretty good read. but whats the point of it...
now ive been to pod, lots of times..
seen a lot of cars ect ( evo's, mr2's, skylines and golfs ). now the cars go as fast as ya wallit lets it, ive seen golfs kill lambos, skylines batter most firrari's, scoobys fly past evo's.
now the point is....if you spend the cash, the skys the limit, i own a scoob, now i think its very quick, ive even raced evos in it. i would never put i can beet/im the fastest car around....
now guys please...its xmas!
take it as a pinch of salt....
keep the car battering down the track, lets try keep the roads safe ye!
& have a good new year
now ive been to pod, lots of times..
seen a lot of cars ect ( evo's, mr2's, skylines and golfs ). now the cars go as fast as ya wallit lets it, ive seen golfs kill lambos, skylines batter most firrari's, scoobys fly past evo's.
now the point is....if you spend the cash, the skys the limit, i own a scoob, now i think its very quick, ive even raced evos in it. i would never put i can beet/im the fastest car around....
now guys please...its xmas!
take it as a pinch of salt....
keep the car battering down the track, lets try keep the roads safe ye!
& have a good new year
26 December 2005, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dabow
ive read the thread, mmmm pretty good read. but whats the point of it...
now ive been to pod, lots of times..
seen a lot of cars ect ( evo's, mr2's, skylines and golfs ). now the cars go as fast as ya wallit lets it, ive seen golfs kill lambos, skylines batter most firrari's, scoobys fly past evo's.
now the point is....if you spend the cash, the skys the limit, i own a scoob, now i think its very quick, ive even raced evos in it. i would never put i can beet/im the fastest car around....
now guys please...its xmas!
take it as a pinch of salt....
keep the car battering down the track, lets try keep the roads safe ye!
& have a good new year
now ive been to pod, lots of times..
seen a lot of cars ect ( evo's, mr2's, skylines and golfs ). now the cars go as fast as ya wallit lets it, ive seen golfs kill lambos, skylines batter most firrari's, scoobys fly past evo's.
now the point is....if you spend the cash, the skys the limit, i own a scoob, now i think its very quick, ive even raced evos in it. i would never put i can beet/im the fastest car around....
now guys please...its xmas!
take it as a pinch of salt....
keep the car battering down the track, lets try keep the roads safe ye!
& have a good new year
27 December 2005, 03:29 PM
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[QUOTE=drsuess]
Aerodynamics and gearing probably had more effect than the so called "myth" of 4WD tranny losses - its all garbage.
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Umm No
What do you drive? I drive an Evo VIII.
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Aerodynamics and gearing probably had more effect than the so called "myth" of 4WD tranny losses - its all garbage.
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Umm No
What do you drive? I drive an Evo VIII.
27 December 2005, 03:31 PM
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When are the toy throwing brigade going to get real and accept the fact that tuning the guts out of a fwd car and adding nitrous is basically an utter waste of time... and they still arent that fast.
27 December 2005, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by turbodan
When are the toy throwing brigade going to get real and accept the fact that tuning the guts out of a fwd car and adding nitrous is basically an utter waste of time... and they still arent that fast.
27 December 2005, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RR
Still faster than the fastest official uk spec wr1 scoob.
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27 December 2005, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RR
Still faster than the fastest official uk spec wr1 scoob.
something to do with the bluerinse
28 December 2005, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl2
I could well believe a 150C oil temp, on my last car the oil temp gauge read like a speedo above 100, although it wasn't working the time I did do 150, it did read 130C at 130mph on a previous occaision.
28 December 2005, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RR
Still faster than the fastest official uk spec wr1 scoob.
Your car is faster than a whole host of others which are limited to 155mph but its still a f*cking ibiza.
28 December 2005, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ScooBStu
I have said it before and I will say it again - TOSSER!!!
Your car is faster than a whole host of others which are limited to 155mph but its still a f*cking ibiza.
Your car is faster than a whole host of others which are limited to 155mph but its still a f*cking ibiza.
Exactly. What the hell is the point of a car that cant get traction until about 3rd gear? Is only fast on a runway of about 2 miles by the time u hit about 130mph. Its utterly useless! (and handles like a matchbox on square wheels).
28 December 2005, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitchy260
Sorry buddy, but do you want a bone 
BTW, It would eat your car for breakfast.
Whats the point in a car thats only good for 0-60
Where's the sense in that
BTW, It would eat your car for breakfast.
Whats the point in a car thats only good for 0-60
Where's the sense in thatI think you'll find its good for just about everything. Plus it doesnt need Nitrous, chips and god knows what else to do it. Plus it can put the power down and stop well. I wouldnt even waste my time blowing a little hatch away as tempting as that might be.
28 December 2005, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitchy260
Yeah because evo 8's are supercars and we should all envy you
Id like to know how many of the hot hatch brigade have actually driven a 4wd car before they start banging on about trans losses this and that.
Sit in an Evo indicating 175mph as std and then tell me about it.
28 December 2005, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitchy260
Not as quick as evo owners would like to think
Dont waste your time mitchy, theres people so far down the food chain when they start the usual personal insults and bad language i dont even bother responding to there posts. Just sleep easy knowing your car is quicker and not as chavtastic as theres. End of.
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28 December 2005, 10:57 PM
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The Evo 8 MR onwards is a nice car to modify though, >400 BHP and 400 lbft with exhaust, induction, remap and fuel pump for £1500, a DIY FQ400 if you will, but with more torque, far less lag and a wider power band. Works out similar power to weight to an IHI Ibiza but with a chassis and gearbox that can take it and exploit it. If there was a car to move onto this might be it RR?
28 December 2005, 11:34 PM
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I think its the IX that can make 400/400 on £1500 worth of mods but i may have read it wrong. When you look at Wrc's site 380-400bhp is coming in around the 3k mark on the 8mr's.
http://www.wrc-tech.co.uk/mitsubishi...vo8-wrc400.htm
http://www.wrc-tech.co.uk/mitsubishi...vo8-wrc400.htm
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29 December 2005, 10:56 AM
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The IX does, but the VIII MR also has pretty good cams and a good turbo which will also get to pretty much 400/400, the IX GTs are surpassing this but the Mg compressor wheels are exploding. WRC fit a new FMIC, BOV, GEMS, Unichip and 3.5" exhaust. I think Evo 400 and Sam leave the stock FMIC, BOV, remap the OEM ECU using Ecutek, and recommend a 3" exhaust for this power level, hence why it is half the cost. They also recommend a different induction setup that they think is better and doesn't need the water reservoir relocated.
29 December 2005, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitchy260
Yeah because evo 8's are supercars and we should all envy you
I cant imagine many people aspiring to own... a 15K spanish hatch. What amazes me is that the motoring press have largely ignored this FWD wonder of technology what cant even crack 155 is std trim and cant handle the power it already has without wheelspin antics.
I would suggest you save your pennies and move onto a real car and put the hatches behind you. Btw theres nothing more chavvy than a hot hatch. Chavs cant afford the Evo, let alone run them.
Anyone can make a car go fast in a straight line, Evos have cracked 200mph. Which Leons or Ibizas have managed this? From your post you only managed about 160 which is hardly impressive for a car you are claiming is all conquering. Id fancy my evo to manage this in std trim, btw GPS is known not to be 100% accurate in these situations. I'd be interested to know the breakdowns of times though, to see how this compares to the MLR's 30-130 challenge which you may have heard about.
29 December 2005, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitchy260
1st of all, top speed for an LCR is higher than a scooby WRX. I dont think its too far off the FQ/MR series and the STI series aswell at 150mph (Book speeds)
In standard trim 160mph on clocks can be achieved and with a £500 remap a little more. My top speed run was showing 161mph GPS, and that was the whole point of the initial thread along with the fact of settling a long argument! If the clocks read far enough i have no doubt it would have been reading between 170-175mph hence my 161 GPS.
Now yes i have heard of the 30-130 challenge and some of the times coming from evos are unbelievable and very well deserved. I think norris designs evo running it in something silly like 7secs! However this car has 700+bhp and is very highly modified! Im sure the 300-450hp evos were running between 14-17secs which is definitely not out of reach for the likes of my car and definitely not out of reach of (RR's) ibiza.
In standard trim 160mph on clocks can be achieved and with a £500 remap a little more. My top speed run was showing 161mph GPS, and that was the whole point of the initial thread along with the fact of settling a long argument! If the clocks read far enough i have no doubt it would have been reading between 170-175mph hence my 161 GPS.
Now yes i have heard of the 30-130 challenge and some of the times coming from evos are unbelievable and very well deserved. I think norris designs evo running it in something silly like 7secs! However this car has 700+bhp and is very highly modified! Im sure the 300-450hp evos were running between 14-17secs which is definitely not out of reach for the likes of my car and definitely not out of reach of (RR's) ibiza.
not 300-450, but 300. So what do you estimate your 30-130 to be?
29 December 2005, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitchy260
Very little difference between running costs of an evo to a scooby and the chavs have got hold of them no probs!
Evos 1-5 are cheap enough for ''chavs'' if you like, but are rare cars and harder to get hold of! The 6 can now be sought for £9-10k with the 7 a little more at around £12k. 8 can be had for £15k
Kind of puts it into perspective that if us hot hatch brigade wanted these cars, we'd have them.
Evos 1-5 are cheap enough for ''chavs'' if you like, but are rare cars and harder to get hold of! The 6 can now be sought for £9-10k with the 7 a little more at around £12k. 8 can be had for £15k
Kind of puts it into perspective that if us hot hatch brigade wanted these cars, we'd have them.
Insurance, petrol, servicing...
29 December 2005, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitchy260
Sorry i was being a little conservative with the 30-130 timings, here is an article straight from your very own forum turbodan.
http://www.lancerregister.com/mlr_show30130.php
Serial 23...Evo FQ400 timed at 17.97secs
Serial 34....Evo Fq 330 timed at 21.4secs
Serial 44....Evo 8 with 350 @ fly timed at 26.6
I would say these times are certainly within grasp of our 2 little spanish ****boxes
After viewing some of my own personal vids of my speedo, im timing 30-130 in around 18-19secs. Looking at serial 23 which seems to be a standard FQ400 his time is 18secs
RR's car is quicker than mine too, i'd love to see what his little spanish ****box would do
http://www.lancerregister.com/mlr_show30130.php
Serial 23...Evo FQ400 timed at 17.97secs
Serial 34....Evo Fq 330 timed at 21.4secs
Serial 44....Evo 8 with 350 @ fly timed at 26.6
I would say these times are certainly within grasp of our 2 little spanish ****boxes
After viewing some of my own personal vids of my speedo, im timing 30-130 in around 18-19secs. Looking at serial 23 which seems to be a standard FQ400 his time is 18secs
RR's car is quicker than mine too, i'd love to see what his little spanish ****box would do
i would say 145 on your speedo is around 130 true mph. Id like to see one of the vids, can you get them hosted. I would also point out no.29 "radar" who in a std evo viii fq300 managed under 20 secs. Obviously some people rag their cars harder than others and are more brutal with the changes.
29 December 2005, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by turbodan
I cant imagine many people aspiring to own... a 15K spanish hatch. What amazes me is that the motoring press have largely ignored this FWD wonder of technology what cant even crack 155 is std trim and cant handle the power it already has without wheelspin antics.
I would suggest you save your pennies and move onto a real car and put the hatches behind you. Btw theres nothing more chavvy than a hot hatch. Chavs cant afford the Evo, let alone run them.
Anyone can make a car go fast in a straight line, Evos have cracked 200mph. Which Leons or Ibizas have managed this? From your post you only managed about 160 which is hardly impressive for a car you are claiming is all conquering. Id fancy my evo to manage this in std trim, btw GPS is known not to be 100% accurate in these situations. I'd be interested to know the breakdowns of times though, to see how this compares to the MLR's 30-130 challenge which you may have heard about.
I would suggest you save your pennies and move onto a real car and put the hatches behind you. Btw theres nothing more chavvy than a hot hatch. Chavs cant afford the Evo, let alone run them.
Anyone can make a car go fast in a straight line, Evos have cracked 200mph. Which Leons or Ibizas have managed this? From your post you only managed about 160 which is hardly impressive for a car you are claiming is all conquering. Id fancy my evo to manage this in std trim, btw GPS is known not to be 100% accurate in these situations. I'd be interested to know the breakdowns of times though, to see how this compares to the MLR's 30-130 challenge which you may have heard about.
29 December 2005, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitchy260
They may be that much off in the evo mate but after doing lots of tests i have 140 mph on clocks showing as 134 GPS which shows a 6mph innacuracy. 130 shows as 125mph. 160 shows as 152.
GPS matched up with timing equipment at santapod so its fairly reliable. I have no idea how it compares with the timing equipment used for your 30-130 tests but it cant be that far off!
I'll see if i can get 1 of my vids up to show you a 30-130 in sub 20secs
GPS matched up with timing equipment at santapod so its fairly reliable. I have no idea how it compares with the timing equipment used for your 30-130 tests but it cant be that far off!
I'll see if i can get 1 of my vids up to show you a 30-130 in sub 20secs
Mitchy id love to see the videos. Ive never heard of car speedos being accurate above 150 so you must be in a very small percentage. GPS units like road angels etc are known to be not accurate which is whys magazines etc dont use them, but use all kinds of equipment costing much more. The faster you go the less accurate the speedo becomes. From an Evo point of view and every other car ive ever had youre looking at least 10 percent out above 130.
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29 December 2005, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitchy260
A lot of people across on SCN use vagcom aswell to do timing comparisons! Vagcom is ecu based and again vagcom matches up with road angel GPS.
I found the faster you go the more accurate it becomes!
30mph shows as 27 mph which is a 10% error but 160mph shows as 152 mph which is a 5% error. The file is are around 20mb long, i'll try and cut them down and host them on putfile as i know they do free uploads! If not then im sure i can send it to you through the email system/msn messanger or something similar.
I found the faster you go the more accurate it becomes!
30mph shows as 27 mph which is a 10% error but 160mph shows as 152 mph which is a 5% error. The file is are around 20mb long, i'll try and cut them down and host them on putfile as i know they do free uploads! If not then im sure i can send it to you through the email system/msn messanger or something similar.