HOW CAN ROLLING ROAD FIGURES CHANGE SO MUCH>??????????
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Originally Posted by Shaun
Look mate... I only own and run the site... I don't know how to spall as well!!!
Have you ever thought how good pslewis is for business??
Pete
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I do NOT use a spellchecker!!
I use my education!!
Thats all!!
Pete
I use my education!!
Thats all!!
Pete
Well educate this and chill out you old fossil
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Originally Posted by dpb
Are they biting well today Pete..?..
My mummy said there would be days like this
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Engine Mapping???
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Biggest scam going that!!
You paid for Subaru to map your ECU - after they have spent £Millions on research and do the best job possible ............. then what do you do??
MUGS!!!
Only pay £700 for some Geek to do it all again!!
Pete
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Biggest scam going that!!
You paid for Subaru to map your ECU - after they have spent £Millions on research and do the best job possible ............. then what do you do??
MUGS!!!
Only pay £700 for some Geek to do it all again!!
Pete
Pete,
They also spent millions getting the engine right, including the length of the dipstick but you are prepared to use your own rules for that.
By your own logic, who are you to decide that keeping the oil level at absolute minimum is best for the engine when subaru recommend somewhere between the upper and lower limit.
By the way, I am not argueing about how much oil to put in your car, just that you are happy to follow your own rules for that and then dismiss everyone elses opinion on anything else.
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Originally Posted by Roojai
Pete,
They also spent millions getting the engine right, including the length of the dipstick but you are prepared to use your own rules for that.
By your own logic, who are you to decide that keeping the oil level at absolute minimum is best for the engine when subaru recommend somewhere between the upper and lower limit.
By the way, I am not argueing about how much oil to put in your car, just that you are happy to follow your own rules for that and then dismiss everyone elses opinion on anything else.
They also spent millions getting the engine right, including the length of the dipstick but you are prepared to use your own rules for that.
By your own logic, who are you to decide that keeping the oil level at absolute minimum is best for the engine when subaru recommend somewhere between the upper and lower limit.
By the way, I am not argueing about how much oil to put in your car, just that you are happy to follow your own rules for that and then dismiss everyone elses opinion on anything else.
Oil on the low mark on the dipstick to prevent it getting where it shouldn't is accepted good advice ............. taking tour ECU outside of it's design envelope is NOT!!
Pete
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I still think that Subaru delivers the best all round package of longevity (15 years+ and 150,000miles of trouble free motoring)
Decent mpg figures (I return 35mpg easily)
Reliablility (mile upon mile of solid performance)
Pissing about with the package compromises reliability (engines blown apart) economy (10mpg) .....................
Buy the car you WANT, not one you have to change!
Pete
Decent mpg figures (I return 35mpg easily)
Reliablility (mile upon mile of solid performance)
Pissing about with the package compromises reliability (engines blown apart) economy (10mpg) .....................
Buy the car you WANT, not one you have to change!
Pete
The car from Subaru as it stands is set up to cope with the worst 95 octane fuel available, from speaking to my mate a Prodrive he said th std eng will run 92 albeit the crank sensor will retard something Chronic. There is an allowance built in for people that do not perform the service interval at the correct time and a certain allowance for others whom do not allow proper warm up before full throttle.
A remap and supporting mods (All DOT, MOT compliant) will allow the Air/fuel to be tuned to 97/98 octane (advanced ignition) and for certain stringent noise levels at government set rpm to be by passed. If a std car with no mods is remapped for even 95 octane this willgenerally improve the efficiency of the engine hence freeing up either more MPG or power, whichever you choose to use.
We have a UK car running just under 300 bhp and similar torque it does 33 MPG when driven selectively and certainly is not feathered, when driven enthusiastically returns approx 24 MPG. Mapping is a product of refining the system, the std sys can run in any country at most ambients, if you know you dont need to run at an ambient of 45 degrees why have a tune that reflects this?
By the way my father is a Chartered Mechanical Engineer (Retired 76 yrs old) whom spen 44 yrs designing engines and setting them up from scratch so i have a fair inside knowledge before you preach to me.
I am unsure why even at this great time of year you come on SN looking to upset people you should be happy to be in the same ownership club.
If you want economy and power go buy an Alpina D10!
Happy Christmas to all inc Pete
Regards
Rob
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Originally Posted by capita
Pete, I have been warned that you are a wind up merchant, but you talk quite literally cow pooh!
The car from Subaru as it stands is set up to cope with the worst 95 octane fuel available, from speaking to my mate a Prodrive he said th std eng will run 92 albeit the crank sensor will retard something Chronic. There is an allowance built in for people that do not perform the service interval at the correct time and a certain allowance for others whom do not allow proper warm up before full throttle.
A remap and supporting mods (All DOT, MOT compliant) will allow the Air/fuel to be tuned to 97/98 octane (advanced ignition) and for certain stringent noise levels at government set rpm to be by passed. If a std car with no mods is remapped for even 95 octane this willgenerally improve the efficiency of the engine hence freeing up either more MPG or power, whichever you choose to use.
We have a UK car running just under 300 bhp and similar torque it does 33 MPG when driven selectively and certainly is not feathered, when driven enthusiastically returns approx 24 MPG. Mapping is a product of refining the system, the std sys can run in any country at most ambients, if you know you dont need to run at an ambient of 45 degrees why have a tune that reflects this?
By the way my father is a Chartered Mechanical Engineer (Retired 76 yrs old) whom spen 44 yrs designing engines and setting them up from scratch so i have a fair inside knowledge before you preach to me.
I am unsure why even at this great time of year you come on SN looking to upset people you should be happy to be in the same ownership club.
If you want economy and power go buy an Alpina D10!
Happy Christmas to all inc Pete
Regards
Rob
The car from Subaru as it stands is set up to cope with the worst 95 octane fuel available, from speaking to my mate a Prodrive he said th std eng will run 92 albeit the crank sensor will retard something Chronic. There is an allowance built in for people that do not perform the service interval at the correct time and a certain allowance for others whom do not allow proper warm up before full throttle.
A remap and supporting mods (All DOT, MOT compliant) will allow the Air/fuel to be tuned to 97/98 octane (advanced ignition) and for certain stringent noise levels at government set rpm to be by passed. If a std car with no mods is remapped for even 95 octane this willgenerally improve the efficiency of the engine hence freeing up either more MPG or power, whichever you choose to use.
We have a UK car running just under 300 bhp and similar torque it does 33 MPG when driven selectively and certainly is not feathered, when driven enthusiastically returns approx 24 MPG. Mapping is a product of refining the system, the std sys can run in any country at most ambients, if you know you dont need to run at an ambient of 45 degrees why have a tune that reflects this?
By the way my father is a Chartered Mechanical Engineer (Retired 76 yrs old) whom spen 44 yrs designing engines and setting them up from scratch so i have a fair inside knowledge before you preach to me.
I am unsure why even at this great time of year you come on SN looking to upset people you should be happy to be in the same ownership club.
If you want economy and power go buy an Alpina D10!
Happy Christmas to all inc Pete
Regards
Rob
PETER S LEWIS 3 Removed as it was not perhaps in the best taste
Merry Christmas
Rob
Last edited by capita; 21 December 2005 at 11:37 AM.
#39
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Engine Mapping???
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Biggest scam going that!!
You paid for Subaru to map your ECU - after they have spent £Millions on research and do the best job possible ............. then what do you do??
MUGS!!!
Only pay £700 for some Geek to do it all again!!
Pete
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Biggest scam going that!!
You paid for Subaru to map your ECU - after they have spent £Millions on research and do the best job possible ............. then what do you do??
MUGS!!!
Only pay £700 for some Geek to do it all again!!
Pete
I do, and you'd love it - I can map it for economy if required (in the 205, not in a Scoob btw)
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Originally Posted by Peanuts
Capita,
that was a very quick quote as well, got in before I corrected my own grammar
that was a very quick quote as well, got in before I corrected my own grammar
Best Wishes to ALL on here, even you Uncle Pete
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Originally Posted by pslewis
And your problem is ................ what exactly??
Oil on the low mark on the dipstick to prevent it getting where it shouldn't is accepted good advice ............. taking tour ECU outside of it's design envelope is NOT!!
Pete
Oil on the low mark on the dipstick to prevent it getting where it shouldn't is accepted good advice ............. taking tour ECU outside of it's design envelope is NOT!!
Pete
With your dipstick protocol, you have obviously listened to advice, tried it and found it to be beneficial (or at least not damaging) and decided to adopt it as best practice. That is what others have done on here with other things (eg knocklinks, remaps etc etc).
Once you start following unproven advice there is no longer any definate right or wrong and you have only your own experience to go by. The problem is: you shoot down all the advice and experience of others without an open mind or ever experiencing it for yourself.
Thats is what we call being a closed minded old man afraid of change. You've got your hymn book out one second, then put it away the next minute to back your own opinion up. The only reason I don't feel sorry for you is that I know you love winding people up and you just get pleasure out of all of this, even when you know you are wrong.
#47
Must say I have been in stitches reading this... a very good thread indeed. Somewhat off the initial subject question but hey!!
I think Pete has a very very small point in that out of the box, the scooby is a very very good package... BUT at the end of the day it is still designed for the mass market, as has been mentioned.
Any large car manufacturer has to put in room for manoever, so that Mr Twit can put 95RON in there, expect the power and the MPG all to be good. So that leaves massive room for development and improvement as you move into the higher end of tuning expectations.
Let's face it even Porsche are now producing cars that fit into a market space, with their Cayman S... That's not engineered to it's full potential and costs a fookin' arm, a leg and a left bollock!!
Very good thread though...
K.
I think Pete has a very very small point in that out of the box, the scooby is a very very good package... BUT at the end of the day it is still designed for the mass market, as has been mentioned.
Any large car manufacturer has to put in room for manoever, so that Mr Twit can put 95RON in there, expect the power and the MPG all to be good. So that leaves massive room for development and improvement as you move into the higher end of tuning expectations.
Let's face it even Porsche are now producing cars that fit into a market space, with their Cayman S... That's not engineered to it's full potential and costs a fookin' arm, a leg and a left bollock!!
Very good thread though...
K.
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Don't rolling roads use random number generators to get the final HP figures?
As a tuning aid to check fueling etc then ok, and checking gains/losses on the same day ok. But other than that they are pointless.
dipster
As a tuning aid to check fueling etc then ok, and checking gains/losses on the same day ok. But other than that they are pointless.
dipster
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Originally Posted by pslewis
taking tour ECU outside of it's design envelope is NOT!!
Pete
Pete
It would seem your education isn't quite up to it. Otherwise, carry on.
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Originally Posted by Flatcapdriver
Pete. A minor point but that should be 'your', not 'tour' ECU out of it's design envelop is 'not'!
It would seem your education isn't quite up to it. Otherwise, carry on.
It would seem your education isn't quite up to it. Otherwise, carry on.
Pete
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