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Old 06 January 2006, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by fatharry
I said they could guess, as its a video of you car they would have moving video footage of your car for a couple of seconds or more

You will be able to see your car as it comes into frame at speed then brake sharply to go past the camera. seeing that you could guess that the car is driving above limit plus you have the error reading from the camera.
But what if the driver thought that the limit was 50 rather than 60 and hence was slowing down to 50.....??

What if the driver simply wanted to test his brakes....?
Old 06 January 2006, 04:14 PM
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I had a jammer(target lrc-100) in my impreza until i got my 350z, had it for two years and got it from a group buy on here run by Nevetas. saved my license around 5 times and still no visit from the filth.and it simply alarms you you have been targeted, then after 5 sec which gives you time to slow down,it switches off for 20 sec giving them time to get a second reading by which time you are safely doing the limit.

Come to think of it, i traded my WRX in and never told the garage that it was fitted, DOH!!!.

SOMEONE is scaremongering about visits etc, it was the size of a cigarette lighter FFS.

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Old 06 January 2006, 06:17 PM
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Thought t*ssers in BMW X5's always speed...
Old 06 January 2006, 06:46 PM
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I thought they could see the jammer working on the video as it lights up when jamming the laser gun?

i think there was a short video clip running on a speed trap web site a while back showing this.

I am sure that some body on here who has taken advatage of a jammer testing session will be able to advise us.
Old 06 January 2006, 07:08 PM
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With regards to the calculation of speed via dip angle... What if you had after-market stiff suspension... lol Not a chance then..

I remember some guy getting done in South Wales who kept driving past the vans at rediculous speeds...Eventually they had enough and found him... Got done for perverting the course of justice...
Old 07 January 2006, 12:37 PM
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I don't believe that radar/laser cameras or Gatso's are reliably accurate enogh to be used to convict for speeding anyway.

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Old 07 January 2006, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Chelspeed
As for being able to see it in the video that sounds like complete tosh, they're tiny, matt black and can be concealed in the grille. You'd need to be 2 foot awat to see it on video not 500m.
Unless your video camera is sensitive to IR, which a lot of digital cameras are. Point laser gun at car, video car. If you get a bright light from the grille somewhere in the IR, then that means they've got a jammer. It's not rocket science.
Old 09 January 2006, 04:21 PM
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SO....

Has anyone ACTUALLY GOT KNICKED????

Jza
Old 09 January 2006, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Jza
SO....

Has anyone ACTUALLY GOT KNICKED????

Jza
Im sure there wasa guy with an audi TT not so long ago.The police done a dawn raid on his house and took his car away and he got done with perverting the course of justice.
Old 09 January 2006, 06:21 PM
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I would not mind getting one of these

I have the perfect excuse


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Old 12 January 2006, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by *Nate*
I would not mind getting one of these

I have the perfect excuse


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Nate.

LOL @ Nate
Old 13 January 2006, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Jza
SO....

Has anyone ACTUALLY GOT KNICKED????

Jza

Guess to put it briefly thats a NO then !!
Old 06 July 2006, 11:45 AM
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I hear there's a new one out called the Pro park or something like that. Essentially is a parking sensor which 'coincidentally' happens to jam laser. According to a review I read - can't remember url - it even worked against police using 'stealth' mode.

So no need for electric gates or garage!
Old 06 July 2006, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by fatharry
You will be able to see your car as it comes into frame at speed then brake sharply to go past the camera. seeing that you could guess that the car is driving above limit plus you have the error reading from the camera.
'Guess' isnt beyond reasonable doubt in a court of law. Instinctive reaction upon seeing a camera for most people is to hit the pedal- regardless of how fast you are going.

Originally Posted by fatharry
If they catch you with the front facing camera vans, they record vhs or dvd footage of you speeding. True the speed reading come back with the error, but they aren't stupid, the police know that you have the jammer.
No, they have footage of your car moving and with no speed reading. Nothing more. No evidence from which to prosecute.

They can find the device on the car by zooming into the image. Once they have found it they may come round to your house and you will then have to explain where your remote garge door is!
They can even see it behind grills, when i was there some bloke in a X5 was about to get done and you see the device behind the grill.
If i remember correctly, enhanced image are not permissable as evidence.....there was some big thing several years back about them having used enhanced images of number plates to prosecute- and it technically being illegal to do so.

They can also have a guess at the speed you were doing from the angle of the front of your car, ie how close to the ground the front is compared to the rear, showing that you were braking heavy.
A guess is not a fact, or a reading! Back to my point above about it being instinct to brake when seeing a camera- everyone does it.


No one has been convicted thus far for perverting the course of justice etc- although they have tried.
Old 06 July 2006, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dn12345
I hear there's a new one out called the Pro park or something like that. Essentially is a parking sensor which 'coincidentally' happens to jam laser. According to a review I read - can't remember url - it even worked against police using 'stealth' mode.

So no need for electric gates or garage!
http://www.laserjammertests.com/page/page/3384710.htm
Old 06 July 2006, 12:21 PM
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The jammer shines a bright light at the laser speedcam to confuse the laser beam from the camera. Thats probably why they can see it.

Les
Old 06 July 2006, 12:48 PM
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Couple of things to add here...


I have only heard of one person being done for using the jammers. Going thru a town centre there was a van that couldnt get a speed lock on a car so traced up the car and the bobbies paid a visit. The bloke had to remove the system there and then or the car would be 'removed'. Cant find the link to the Piepoo story or the BBC site at the mo.

For the amount of laser jammers that have been sold on here - I have never heard of anyone in this site being done.

When buying a Blinder, avoid the M-06 becuase they are so outdated and only emit infra red light all of the time, the M-10 twin is better becuase it activates when hit by a laser then turns off again like the LRC100 and other models.
Old 06 July 2006, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fatharry
I said they could guess, as its a video of you car they would have moving video footage of your car for a couple of seconds or more

You will be able to see your car as it comes into frame at speed then brake sharply to go past the camera. seeing that you could guess that the car is driving above limit plus you have the error reading from the camera.
I love this - the fact that anyone would think that they could guess the speed of a car by the amount it dips.... LOL. EH?

As others have said, a few other considerations would be taken into account. Every car is different, the wear of the brakes (brand new, bit worn, very worn), how hard the person hit the pedal, how much strength they pushed, how fast or slow they pushed it, how much weight in the front, how much weight in the back, how old are the front shocks..... and so I go on.

Such a crazy thing to say it's irrelevant. The car could be going 60 in a 60, see the camera van, slowly apply the brakes, get closer, get scared, hit the brakes and then accelerate. A dip in the front of the car tells you all that?
Old 09 July 2006, 05:13 PM
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There must be loads of errors that are genuine errors and for the life in me I cant see the police visiting all the cars registered addresses for the chance of a £60 fine and if so as anyone had a visit?
Old 09 July 2006, 07:40 PM
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If anyone's intersted I have a brand new and unfitted Target LRC100 for sale. PM me
Old 10 July 2006, 11:30 AM
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the cheapest laser jammer is a strategically placed crisp packet (43p)just covering the first three digits...dammed annoying thiose crisp bags blowing in the wind
Old 10 July 2006, 09:36 PM
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Here's some more info on the 'parking aid'

http://www.car-parking-sensors.co.uk/

http://www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk/laserpropark.htm
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