Confused Police, & Subaru Bonnets.
09 January 2006, 12:35 AM
#31
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: MY99UK-MY02STi-MY99Type R-MY06 T20-MY11 340R-MY05 TYPE25
Posts: 11,468
Received 22 Likes
on
19 Posts
IIRC if the Sunstrip fouls the wipers blade they are illegal. So cut off an inch or so of the Wiper Blade they will be O/K 
LOL or just fit a shorter one 
Surely the colour flasher lense cover does not matter as long as the indicator lamp flashes orange.
As for the Scoop, what a twonker thought he was dealing with a Primera or Nova with a scooby scoop on it LOL
Soon and any non standard replacement car parts will be illegal
The Police will soon replace Judge and Jury [Judge Dredd voice] " I AM THE LAW" [/Judge Dredd voice]
Two choices......Take a Fix Penalty for their "Opinion"
or they will just p1ss you around for 3-4 court appearances which they don't turn up for and you lose 4 days pay and was never ever Guilty most peeps end up rolling over and taking the fixed penatly hit
I've met a load of nice coppers who do a thankless job and also met a few complete and utter kn0bs. Subaru owners are not without fault, Most I've met are Enthusiast but have met a couple of Kn0bs aswell, luckily they are very few and far between.
IMHO IIRC
Tony
LOL or just fit a shorter one Surely the colour flasher lense cover does not matter as long as the indicator lamp flashes orange.
As for the Scoop, what a twonker thought he was dealing with a Primera or Nova with a scooby scoop on it
LOLSoon and any non standard replacement car parts will be illegal
The Police will soon replace Judge and Jury
[Judge Dredd voice] " I AM THE LAW" [/Judge Dredd voice]Two choices......Take a Fix Penalty for their "Opinion"
or they will just p1ss you around for 3-4 court appearances which they don't turn up for and you lose 4 days pay and was never ever Guilty
most peeps end up rolling over and taking the fixed penatly hit I've met a load of nice coppers who do a thankless job
and also met a few complete and utter kn0bs. Subaru owners are not without fault, Most I've met are Enthusiast but have met a couple of Kn0bs aswell, luckily they are very few and far between.IMHO IIRC
Tony
09 January 2006, 12:43 AM
#32
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: I wish we had a non-profit making website to put here.
Posts: 1,185
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Blue side lights + illegal number plates = pulled over eventually.
Sounds like she got pulled after the copper had had an argument with his Mrs.
You pays you're money, you takes ya chance.
Sounds like she got pulled after the copper had had an argument with his Mrs.
You pays you're money, you takes ya chance.
09 January 2006, 02:11 AM
#34
The Sunstrip is above The A line (Line Of Vision) The Numberplate has a pic os Scooby Doo on the left, and a Ghosted football Crest in the middle.
The Font and Spacing are Standard. According to dvla websit, you are only allowed a nationality flag on the numberplate. (It clearly States Football Crests are Not Allowed) So id say the Plates are illegal.
The blue Side/Parking lights are also illegal. so yes two offences were commited. However because my wife tryed protesting the fact it was Not her who was stopped earlier in the Night for the Blue Light offence. he get quite up himself.
I assume the radio Controller put the Vehicle details in, and when it came back as my street name, and as it was My next door neighbour who also has an Impreza, with Blue lights, he/she put 2&2 together and came up with 6. I know they can only go so far back in their logs. However it would Have been listed on intel. but they never checked.
However, the Car went straight Through an MOT as it is Now, it also has the cats removed.
The officer had said i bet if i pull the bonnet i will find some more illegal Items their.
I invited the SGT to send a Traffic car around to check my car for Defects, He actually said NO.
My car is Modifyed, and at the last rolling road was producing 350+ bhp However, every Modification is Declared. Even the Replacement ECU that cost me more than i Bargained for as it added an extra £250 to my insurance.
But i want the power, So i pay for it.
I do try to keep my car legal, but i do try to bend some of the Rules, like the Numberplate and The Lights.
I apreciate the Police have a Job to do, And the Fact that Subaru's are being stolen in my area, One of them on New Years Eve was used in a Ram Raid.
I would apreciate being Stopped, {Goodeveing Sir, This is Just a Routine check, to ensure this is your vehicle, as we are having a lot of these stolen in this area. The do their check, Thankyou for your Time Sir.} If this Happend to me I would Say No Thankyou! I apreciate being stopped to ensure that my vehicle is Not Stolen.
at least is shows they are trying to do their Job.
I will be posting on that police forum tomorrow, just to see the responce.
I will go as far as needed with this. I have a Carbon Bonnet on the car, and i am not intending on removing it.
Thanks
Derek
The Font and Spacing are Standard. According to dvla websit, you are only allowed a nationality flag on the numberplate. (It clearly States Football Crests are Not Allowed) So id say the Plates are illegal.
The blue Side/Parking lights are also illegal. so yes two offences were commited. However because my wife tryed protesting the fact it was Not her who was stopped earlier in the Night for the Blue Light offence. he get quite up himself.
I assume the radio Controller put the Vehicle details in, and when it came back as my street name, and as it was My next door neighbour who also has an Impreza, with Blue lights, he/she put 2&2 together and came up with 6. I know they can only go so far back in their logs. However it would Have been listed on intel. but they never checked.
However, the Car went straight Through an MOT as it is Now, it also has the cats removed.
The officer had said i bet if i pull the bonnet i will find some more illegal Items their.
I invited the SGT to send a Traffic car around to check my car for Defects, He actually said NO.
My car is Modifyed, and at the last rolling road was producing 350+ bhp However, every Modification is Declared. Even the Replacement ECU that cost me more than i Bargained for as it added an extra £250 to my insurance.
But i want the power, So i pay for it.
I do try to keep my car legal, but i do try to bend some of the Rules, like the Numberplate and The Lights.
I apreciate the Police have a Job to do, And the Fact that Subaru's are being stolen in my area, One of them on New Years Eve was used in a Ram Raid.
I would apreciate being Stopped, {Goodeveing Sir, This is Just a Routine check, to ensure this is your vehicle, as we are having a lot of these stolen in this area. The do their check, Thankyou for your Time Sir.} If this Happend to me I would Say No Thankyou! I apreciate being stopped to ensure that my vehicle is Not Stolen.
at least is shows they are trying to do their Job.
I will be posting on that police forum tomorrow, just to see the responce.
I will go as far as needed with this. I have a Carbon Bonnet on the car, and i am not intending on removing it.
Thanks
Derek
09 January 2006, 02:17 AM
#35
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: google "SMACS" We're # 1!
Posts: 8,765
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Feel for you m8, must be demeaning to be stopped in this way, good luck with the complaint.
What gets me though is that it's actually quite difficult to type while repeatedly and randomly hitting the caps lock key, how do you do it?
chris.
What gets me though is that it's actually quite difficult to type while repeatedly and randomly hitting the caps lock key, how do you do it?
chris.
09 January 2006, 02:19 AM
#36
Originally Posted by cw42
Feel for you m8, must be demeaning to be stopped in this way, good luck with the complaint.
What gets me though is that it's actually quite difficult to type while repeatedly and randomly hitting the caps lock key, how do you do it?
chris.
What gets me though is that it's actually quite difficult to type while repeatedly and randomly hitting the caps lock key, how do you do it?
chris.
Derek
09 January 2006, 02:37 AM
#37
Scooby Regular
Originally Posted by talizman
The cop does sound like a complete *****, but what gets my goat is folk immediately tarring everyone with the same brush. 
I try hard to convey a decent and fair image in my job and these kind of incidents don't make the process easy.
Remember that cops are just members of society doing a job, so naturally there will be a large number of ******, just like any job. Law of averages and all that.
Bit like saying ALL Scooby owners are chav-fcukwits eh?
I try hard to convey a decent and fair image in my job and these kind of incidents don't make the process easy.
Remember that cops are just members of society doing a job, so naturally there will be a large number of ******, just like any job. Law of averages and all that.
Bit like saying ALL Scooby owners are chav-fcukwits eh?
Oh well it was good while it lasted but knowing you,you'll be back
09 January 2006, 08:02 AM
#39
I shall write to Humberside police immediately asking them to remove the overlarge bonnet scoops from their three Sti's in current active service. I'm not being pulled by some copper in a dangerous stickered up illegal chavmobile.
09 January 2006, 09:40 PM
#42
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Worcestershire
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Sounds like some of the police i've encountered . The thing is you dont notice the good ones, as they dont spend their time harrassing the law abiding public. My advice would be to take your car to a VOSA centre and ask them to MOT your car. Then use their report as part of your complaint.
. The thing is you dont notice the good ones, as they dont spend their time harrassing the law abiding public. My advice would be to take your car to a VOSA centre and ask them to MOT your car. Then use their report as part of your complaint.
09 January 2006, 10:23 PM
#43
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Farnborough, Hants
Posts: 917
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by John57
I'm a police officer and I won't deny this sort of thing can happen .... some of the officers being employed now are an absolute joke!
It's a shame - I worked hard to get in the job but meet officers now who can hardly spell or write. When I see it I challenge it - personally I find it embarassing.
If you encounter it complain.... thats all I can say really - I mean, when you've been told to remove the scoop off your Impreza bonnet ...... I think I give up !
It's a shame - I worked hard to get in the job but meet officers now who can hardly spell or write. When I see it I challenge it - personally I find it embarassing.
If you encounter it complain.... thats all I can say really - I mean, when you've been told to remove the scoop off your Impreza bonnet ...... I think I give up !
I would add that don't let the sergeant take the complaint, it should be the officers' Inspector. Suggest you complain about the sarge as well....one thing though, don't go down the "haven't they got something better to do route", Road Traffic duties are part of our job. Best of luck with it fella
10 January 2006, 01:19 AM
#44
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 774
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
when i bought my my03 sti I remember that the brochure mentioned that the car got an extra half star in the ncap crash tests for being pedestrian friendly cos the wiper-blades are designed to snap when head-butted. There was no mention of losing stars for the scoop de-capitating said pedestrian before reaching the wipers.
10 January 2006, 07:26 AM
#46
Shame really.. most coppers tend to be impressed by my car.. probably because I'm a young lad driving a fast car like an adult!
Really, follow your complaint, make sure your car IS legal and keep to the law! Let them pull you over as much as they like, just smile, write their badge number down and be on your way!
Really, follow your complaint, make sure your car IS legal and keep to the law! Let them pull you over as much as they like, just smile, write their badge number down and be on your way!
10 January 2006, 07:27 AM
#47
Originally Posted by scarey
when i bought my my03 sti I remember that the brochure mentioned that the car got an extra half star in the ncap crash tests for being pedestrian friendly cos the wiper-blades are designed to snap when head-butted. There was no mention of losing stars for the scoop de-capitating said pedestrian before reaching the wipers.
10 January 2006, 01:37 PM
#49
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Warrington
Posts: 4,554
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
You can't compare apples with eggs.
Hold on.
Not the same thing at all.
<zip>
Originally Posted by Nak
Recently saw 2 policemen getting out of their unmarked blue STI, with the 'illegal' scoop still attached!! Good luck with complaint.
Originally Posted by The M@trix
I have a Carbon Bonnet on the car
<zip>
10 January 2006, 03:29 PM
#53
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: West Mids, Notts & Lincs
Posts: 1,790
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The following link might actually proove that a Subaru bonnect scoop may save a fatal injury? Think about it, if the new bonnet system pushes away from the engine, thus giving some space between the engine and bonnet. Surely the scooby scoop does the same? Its just permenantly depolyed, making its a more suitable safety device.
http://www.rospa.com/roadsafety/advi..._up_bonnet.htm
I wonder if Richard Hammond would like to try one of his 'Brainiac' experiments to test this theory?
http://www.rospa.com/roadsafety/advi..._up_bonnet.htm
I wonder if Richard Hammond would like to try one of his 'Brainiac' experiments to test this theory?
10 January 2006, 03:36 PM
#54
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: West Mids, Notts & Lincs
Posts: 1,790
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I think the policeman's point of view is looking tarnished to say the least!!!
"Pedestrian protection
In addition to the bonnet energy absorbing design and detachable type modular wipers similar to those used on the second generation Forester, new features have been added to improve pedestrian protection. The top mount of the front suspension is lowered, and clearance has been maintained between the engine and the bonnet. This provides better energy absorption if a person strikes the bonnet, potentially decreasing injury. Detachable front wipers, impact absorbing fenders and hood hinges are used. Pedestrian leg protection has also been improved in the front spoiler area using advanced technology."
taken from................
http://www.subaru.co.nz/Roam/About_S...hp?article=620
"Pedestrian protection
In addition to the bonnet energy absorbing design and detachable type modular wipers similar to those used on the second generation Forester, new features have been added to improve pedestrian protection. The top mount of the front suspension is lowered, and clearance has been maintained between the engine and the bonnet. This provides better energy absorption if a person strikes the bonnet, potentially decreasing injury. Detachable front wipers, impact absorbing fenders and hood hinges are used. Pedestrian leg protection has also been improved in the front spoiler area using advanced technology."
taken from................
http://www.subaru.co.nz/Roam/About_S...hp?article=620
10 January 2006, 04:33 PM
#55
Moderator
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: The Terry Crews of moderation. P P P P P P POWER!!
Posts: 18,687
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by The M@trix
My Wife was Stopped last Night, She was told the following.
The Numberplates are Illegal And Must Be Changed, The Sunstrip Is Illegal and Must Be Removed, The Bonnet is Illegal and Must Be Removed.
When she asked why the bonnet is Illegal, he said the Scoop is Dangerous, if she were to knock someone down they could rip thei fingers off in the scoop.
She tryed to explain that a scoop is standard for a Subaru Impreza, He told her to Stop Arguing, he knows the Law, and it is Illegal And MUST Be removed.
She said again, Every Turbo Subaru has a Scoop, he said No they do Not. If i see any with one they will remove them or the will face Prossecution.
I have Just Phoned Police and Made a Complaint.
Told them I Want a Traffic Office to Come arround, and Inspect My Vehicle.
Then I Got a Call From a SGT, Who Does not Know Anything about Scoobys Either.
Tryed to get me to drop the Complaint, by saying, i am happy to go ahead with the complaint, however you should be aware, after i have spoken to the officers, I am sure they will be a little unhappy, and could mention it to their collegues, although we like to think it does not happen, but in reallity, it does, the other officers, will try to find anything wrong with your Car. and they Will Prossecute.
But it Is Down to you.
I said it is ok I will Continue, and if i do get Harrassed, I will Speak To an Inspector about a Harrassment Complaint.
He is going to have words with the two Officers, and start the complaints Process.
It is Pathetic. And i think they had nothing better to do.
He started picking Faults after Sally Denyed being pulled over earlier in the evenng for the Blue Side Lights. She tryed to Explain it was our next door Neighbour (Mr H) who had the same lights. he argued with her, and told her she must tell them in future if she has already been stopped, when she tryed protesting her innocence again, then he got funny.
Derek
The Numberplates are Illegal And Must Be Changed, The Sunstrip Is Illegal and Must Be Removed, The Bonnet is Illegal and Must Be Removed.
When she asked why the bonnet is Illegal, he said the Scoop is Dangerous, if she were to knock someone down they could rip thei fingers off in the scoop.
She tryed to explain that a scoop is standard for a Subaru Impreza, He told her to Stop Arguing, he knows the Law, and it is Illegal And MUST Be removed.
She said again, Every Turbo Subaru has a Scoop, he said No they do Not. If i see any with one they will remove them or the will face Prossecution.
I have Just Phoned Police and Made a Complaint.
Told them I Want a Traffic Office to Come arround, and Inspect My Vehicle.
Then I Got a Call From a SGT, Who Does not Know Anything about Scoobys Either.
Tryed to get me to drop the Complaint, by saying, i am happy to go ahead with the complaint, however you should be aware, after i have spoken to the officers, I am sure they will be a little unhappy, and could mention it to their collegues, although we like to think it does not happen, but in reallity, it does, the other officers, will try to find anything wrong with your Car. and they Will Prossecute.
But it Is Down to you.
I said it is ok I will Continue, and if i do get Harrassed, I will Speak To an Inspector about a Harrassment Complaint.
He is going to have words with the two Officers, and start the complaints Process.
It is Pathetic. And i think they had nothing better to do.
He started picking Faults after Sally Denyed being pulled over earlier in the evenng for the Blue Side Lights. She tryed to Explain it was our next door Neighbour (Mr H) who had the same lights. he argued with her, and told her she must tell them in future if she has already been stopped, when she tryed protesting her innocence again, then he got funny.
Derek
Say you want the matter dealt with immediately or you will be heading for the Police Complaints Commision.
NS04
Last edited by New_scooby_04; 10 January 2006 at 04:35 PM.
10 January 2006, 04:54 PM
#56
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
Posts: 5,947
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by jimmy boo
Good morning talizman.......I would echo what you've said but it's sad that after 5 yes FIVE scoobs you'll soon be leaving us for the joys of diesel
Oh well it was good while it lasted but knowing you,you'll be back
Oh well it was good while it lasted but knowing you,you'll be back
Its actually six Imprezas, but who's counting eh?
And yes, you are probably right.....
<Arnie voice>
I'll be back
</Arnie voice>
10 January 2006, 06:53 PM
#57
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: North London
Posts: 1,368
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
In six months of owning my First Scoob
, been pulled over by the Bow Street Runners twice . . . .
(mainly for driving fast/like a loon) . . . First time, the coppers chose aside from all aelse, to search me + my car for drugs which was totally uncalled for . . .Second time, the coppers just had a laugh and said " Just admit you put yr foot down, I like Subaru's . .Done it myself " . .So try not to take it too seriously . .Coppers do vary . .If i were you, just drop the complaint and get on with things . . .
Perhaps put a n ew badge on yr Scoob, and rename it ASBORU!!!
, been pulled over by the Bow Street Runners twice . . . . (mainly for driving fast/like a loon) . . . First time, the coppers chose aside from all aelse, to search me + my car for drugs which was totally uncalled for . . .Second time, the coppers just had a laugh and said " Just admit you put yr foot down, I like Subaru's . .Done it myself " . .So try not to take it too seriously . .Coppers do vary . .If i were you, just drop the complaint and get on with things . . .Perhaps put a n ew badge on yr Scoob, and rename it ASBORU!!!
10 January 2006, 08:13 PM
#58
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Zed Ess Won Hay Tee
Posts: 21,611
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
i have had things happening in the same way with previous cars
pisses you right off when the copper gives it the big "i know whats best, stop argueing with me"
best to let them get on with it and then complain about them, i can remember being banned from a mates street, after my brother had a fall out with somebodys dad and the son chucked a pole of his car
they just talk a load of bollocks and flash the badge to make you do what they want
pisses you right off when the copper gives it the big "i know whats best, stop argueing with me"
best to let them get on with it and then complain about them, i can remember being banned from a mates street, after my brother had a fall out with somebodys dad and the son chucked a pole of his car
they just talk a load of bollocks and flash the badge to make you do what they want
10 January 2006, 09:42 PM
#60
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Farnborough, Hants
Posts: 917
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by WRX300MAN
In six months of owning my First Scoob , been pulled over by the Bow Street Runners twice . . . . (mainly for driving fast/like a loon) . . . First time, the coppers chose aside from all aelse, to search me + my car for drugs which was totally uncalled for . . .Second time, the coppers just had a laugh and said " Just admit you put yr foot down, I like Subaru's . .Done it myself " . .So try not to take it too seriously . .Coppers do vary . .If i were you, just drop the complaint and get on with things . . .
Perhaps put a n ew badge on yr Scoob, and rename it ASBORU!!!
, been pulled over by the Bow Street Runners twice . . . . (mainly for driving fast/like a loon) . . . First time, the coppers chose aside from all aelse, to search me + my car for drugs which was totally uncalled for . . .Second time, the coppers just had a laugh and said " Just admit you put yr foot down, I like Subaru's . .Done it myself " . .So try not to take it too seriously . .Coppers do vary . .If i were you, just drop the complaint and get on with things . . .Perhaps put a n ew badge on yr Scoob, and rename it ASBORU!!!