*Sonic*

I havent read the entire thread, but I actually enjoyed the magazine, and only paid my subscription a bit back, but not had a magazine

now I know why

StickyMicky

*shakes head*

i hope something gets sorted out for the poor people who paid for a subscription, its fecken disgusting if they were still taking payments, and the whole thing was shut down without people even getting one magazine.

*Sonic*

incidently can anyone remember what options they providing for subscribing, in terms of paypal, worldpay etc

Steve

*Sonic*

Its ok just found my email

its dated 20/01/2006 and reads

Dear Mr,


We will very soon be taking delivery of Scooby Magazine issue 8. We will notify you by email as soon as we have despatched it.

Please accept our apologies for the delay of this issue. It now means that issue 9 will be sent to you on March 1st, 2006 and subsequent magazines will be released in shops on the first Friday of each calender month.

4 months and still waiting

Nice to know we have all been contacted about this, or an announcement made at the very least

Andy.F

Not sure what exactly is public at the moment so I'll say I heard this through a 3rd party and have no idea if it is factual (keeping myself out of trouble !)

I beleve this is what happened to S/mag.

Firstly, a contributor of a technical article falsely claimed it to be his own work. The issue was printed and almost out to distribution before JMB were made aware that the particular article didn't actualy belong to the contributor and it had been copied from another publication.
Attempts were made to buy the article from the real owner but the offer was declined.
This resulted in the loss of a complete issue printed run.

Shortly afterwards Hannah Barbera, the owners of Scooby-Doo allegedly raised a legal action prohibiting the use of the name "scooby" in the title of the publication.
The actual name of the mag was Scooby Magazine. Scoobymag as one word would have been ok but not "Scooby" on its own apparently.

Another issue was printed, ready for distribution at this point but it was illegal to actually issue it.

A new business will always have limited cash for contingencies. If they get hit by two big 'show stoppers' on the trot it can be hard to overcome.
I can only guess at the cost of these two most unfortunate issues.

I can assure you these guys put a hell of an effort into this and certainly are not swaning around in company cars spending your subscription money.

I do know Jon had plans to change the name and relaunch the mag (as mentioned on the website) and indeed this still may be the case, it depends on what you read into the statement published.

I hope it is still a viable business and wish Jon and Dee the best of luck with the recovery/relaunch.

Andy

*Sonic*

Thanks for that Andy

Maybe that would explain issues 9 & 10 then, as some people have had issue 8, I myself have only had up to issue 7

Since resubscribing, ive changed jobs, and cant back check now my old works email (the one I used for the scooby mag subscriptions) however this was only a recent-ish job change, so i would have recieved any emails up until a few weeks ago

Steve

harvey

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Sounds very unfortunate so cut them some slack.
I wonder who the cretin was with the plageristic tendancies. He has a lot to answer for.
Andy : I have never heard of Hanna Barbera. WTF is she and where does she hang out ? I guess a few people might want to make their views known to her whoever she is. Scooby Bitch / Scoobybitch ?

Andy.F

http://www.toonopedia.com/hannabar.htm

They are an American film production company

Try and right click on one of their links to see how protective they are !!

*Sonic*

It is unfortunate, but you cant expect them to be cut too much slack, when you run a business, take peoples money, know something is up, and dont tell your customers ( i dont mean the ins & outs, or in fact the reasons as such, but *some* contact would be nice, even in an annoucement form

Up until Andy F's post NO ONE knew anything other than they have ceased publication, and until recently still taking subscriptions

I do hope they sort things out tho, as I really enjoyed the mag, and hope it does make a return

Steve

ALi-B

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LOL Did you ever have a TV in the house when you were a child?

Not that I'm a top cat in this area. But I'd like to think I'm smarter than the average bear. Boo Boo.

<Exit stage right>

[Mutley laugh] Hehehehehehehehe[/mutley laugh]

lordharding

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Just found out last night


they wont be atending the NBO 4



Now after reading this I know why .


Shame I really enjoyed reading the Magazine

renno rannes

Maybe they could have changed the c in scooby to a k and then no more Hanna Barbera trouble

TAINTON

Seems alittle pity if you ask me.....people will complain about almost anything these days.

.....Hopefully will be sorted in good time

P1-Brad

You would've ... if they'd actually bothered to send out an e-mail!!!!!!!

Certainly sounds like a series of unfortunate events, however, they're total disregard for keeping subscribers informed means they wont be getting my sympathy.

Just how hard is it to write a post on a web-forum , I don't want all the details but just some sort of an explanation would be a bonus (and not hearsay, no disrespect Andy). If they are planning to relaunch it might be a good idea to do this just to salvage some of the good reputation they once had, which judging by this thread is eroding quite rapidly!

New_scooby_04

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Thanks for the info Andy,

It would be most unfortunate if the magazine was grounded by the dishonesty of a contributor (under the alleged circumstances, I'd use the term contributor very lightly) and a highly questionable action by a company as large as HB.

I think people have been way too quick to scream foul play on here. I don't believe for one minute that Jon is sunning himself in some distant land on the subscribers' money. If I recall correctly, he gave up his regular job to produce this magazine and both him and Dee have been working flat out on it since.

I'd imagine they're gutted!

Yes, a one monthly issue may have been a bit ambitious to start with and, yes, communication with subscribers could have been much better at times. However, hindsight is 20:20. I, for one, really enjoyed the magazine when it did turn up and would have been more than happy to put up with a slightly irregular roll out whilst all the teething problems were sorted out.

There was a demand -frequently articulated on here- for a dedicated Scooby magazine and whilst others just bitched about it, Jon took up the challenge and did something about it. It would appear that he's been tripped up by some unfortunate events and that this may be the end of a good read.

That's a damn shame. For us, but especially for Jon and Dee as well.

Ns04

Daniel-S

tis a shame

Boyakasha

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I hope Jon is taking this person to court to try and recover costs!

Good luck Jon, I know that everyone up here in Aberdeen is 100% behind you.

Marc

SCOsazOBY

Cant we contact these Disney people and let them know how annoyed we all are at their stupidity regarding the name issues??

The magazine was excellant and i hope Jon and Dee find the strength to fight on and continue publishing the mag

jamesbWRXRA

I ordered scooby magazine on monday this week they were still taking payments then as i payed through paypal will i still receive my magazine?

SCOsazOBY

i doubt it,
it looks like they got issues 8 and 9 printed but couldnt send them out because of legal problems.

rdouthit

I can empathize, but the Hanna-Barbara "action" is as related through a third party at this point. Specifics are unknown. I had posted several weeks ago speculating that HB action could be a possible case of the disappearance of Scooby (since the owners weren't forthcoming with any info) but I was absolutely clear in that post that it was merely a random guess. Is that the "source" for this info? I sure hope not.

If, in the event it is true, it is HB's job to enforce their trademarks. If Jon and Co. didn't do a trademark search prior to using the Scooby name, you can't really blame HB. If they don't enforce their trademark, they stand to loose it.

I know what's it's like to run a Magazine, and--actually--a Subaru Magazine to be specific. There are pitfalls at every corner, but communication and customer service are paramount to ANY magazine's success. The fact that this thread even exists is quite the testimonial that those elements are lacking. Hard work and good intent is only half the battle.

Okay, I'm going to go back to lurking now

mart360

each link opened in a new window, and what exactly was supposed to happen??


Mart

cookstar

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Why would there be no problems having a website called "SCOOBYNET" then

rossyboy

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Think thats due to it being one word going by posts above. If it was called Scooby Net, then the site owners may be sued.

Phil

Mark

I stand to be corrected here but

Scoobynet is Scoobynet not Scooby Net

No space !!

Makes a claim alot more difficult if not impossible

A simple renaming of Scooby Magazine

to say Scoobymag should have been sufficent


As I said thats my understanding of the law

Phil

To add if Scoobynet had to change its name

Its just a bit of redesign and press a button

If you have already printed X amount of Mags they are destind for the bin and thats a huge cost


Phil

cookstar

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But when you register a limited company do these things not get checked by legal people, not at all having a pop at scooby mag, just feel like these things should have been highlighted a long time ago.

Phil

I guess they should but hindsight is a wonderful thing

cookstar

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true

P20SPD

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Scooby Mag wasnt the limited company. The limited company is JMB Publications Ltd, which is completely different.