Am I The Only One Uneasy About This?
#31
PSL,
You gave all the reasons for their conviction and sentences in your first post. Do you suspect the facts you gave and feel that they may not be guilty, are you saying that the Thai Government cobbled it all up. And do you know that they are actually simple as you put it.
If you feel uneasy about it then you must have good reasons for doubting the facts they were convicted on-can you give us the run down on that.
Les
You gave all the reasons for their conviction and sentences in your first post. Do you suspect the facts you gave and feel that they may not be guilty, are you saying that the Thai Government cobbled it all up. And do you know that they are actually simple as you put it.
If you feel uneasy about it then you must have good reasons for doubting the facts they were convicted on-can you give us the run down on that.
Les
#32
Originally Posted by pslewis
The 2 Thia fishermen ..............
If they are guilty, then fair enough - kill them!!
BUT, all over in 3 weeks??
They admitted the offence, DNA matched up ............ I am sure that they haven't got a clue whats going on!!
I am convinced that they are 2 simpleton fishermen who have been caught in the wrong place at the wrong time ......... to suit the Thia tourist industry.
Am I alone in questioning the simple solving and conclusion of this crime??
Pete
If they are guilty, then fair enough - kill them!!
BUT, all over in 3 weeks??
They admitted the offence, DNA matched up ............ I am sure that they haven't got a clue whats going on!!
I am convinced that they are 2 simpleton fishermen who have been caught in the wrong place at the wrong time ......... to suit the Thia tourist industry.
Am I alone in questioning the simple solving and conclusion of this crime??
Pete
**** me thats rich comming from you Pete,
thats as bout as hypocritical as you can get
May i refer people to
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=483590
And specifically post #59
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"Israel MUST attack ....... and soon!!"
Pete
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So you advocate killing millions of innocent people because there leaders are gaining technology
and then you become the consumate bleeding heart liberal, for an issue that is beyond our jurisdiction.
Tell you what Pete you **** off over there and offer to have an appeal.
since you seem to have sufficient doubt, i,m sure you would have no trouble convincing the Thai authorities of there possible error.
Mart
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Mart .......... you get more stupid every day!!
How can you align the issue of a state with a mental leadership gaining nuclear warheads and sending the world into nuclear war .... killing millions ..
..... with 2 simple fishermen who may have been set-up by the Thia government just to please western eyes!!
In one many innocent millions will die, in the other 2 innocents may die ... get a grip!
You frigging idiot!!
How can you align the issue of a state with a mental leadership gaining nuclear warheads and sending the world into nuclear war .... killing millions ..
..... with 2 simple fishermen who may have been set-up by the Thia government just to please western eyes!!
In one many innocent millions will die, in the other 2 innocents may die ... get a grip!
You frigging idiot!!
#34
Originally Posted by pslewis
Mart .......... you get more stupid every day!!
How can you align the issue of a state with a mental leadership gaining nuclear warheads and sending the world into nuclear war .... killing millions ..
..... with 2 simple fishermen who may have been set-up by the Thia government just to please western eyes!!
In one many innocent millions will die, in the other 2 innocents may die ... get a grip!
You frigging idiot!!
How can you align the issue of a state with a mental leadership gaining nuclear warheads and sending the world into nuclear war .... killing millions ..
..... with 2 simple fishermen who may have been set-up by the Thia government just to please western eyes!!
In one many innocent millions will die, in the other 2 innocents may die ... get a grip!
You frigging idiot!!
fact of life pete, the other countries are going to gain nuclear capability wether we like it or not.
and i still cant see why your getting your tenna pads in a twist over somthing thats outside our jurisdiction.
If you feel so strongly pete may i suggest
www.Amnesty-international.com
theres plently of like minded folk over there you could annoy
Mart
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and i know your loosing this one because youve reverted to type, and started swearing, unprofessional pete
mart
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Originally Posted by mart360
sorry, who,s the idiot, i didnt see anything on the news today about a nuclear war?, so thailand potentially sets up 2 fishermen, who,s dna just happens to match the dna found on the deceased, and your a one man colombo!
fact of life pete, the other countries are going to gain nuclear capability wether we like it or not.
Mart
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and i know your loosing this one because youve reverted to type, and started swearing, unprofessional pete
mart
fact of life pete, the other countries are going to gain nuclear capability wether we like it or not.
Mart
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and i know your loosing this one because youve reverted to type, and started swearing, unprofessional pete
mart
Number 2 - No-one will have Nuclear warheads unless we say so, idiot!
Number 3 - Me? Swearing? where?? idiot!
By the way, did you mean LOSING? or LOOSING? .... very unprofessional, idiot!
So, as I said earlier, you are an IDIOT!!
Pete
#36
Originally Posted by pslewis
Number 1 - YOU brought the Iranian issue into this thread NOT me, idiot!
Number 2 - No-one will have Nuclear warheads unless we say so, idiot!
Pete
Number 2 - No-one will have Nuclear warheads unless we say so, idiot!
Pete
You really have lost the plot now, and such stupid statements only confirm that,
i can just imagine the iranian government sitting there discussing the future and one of honcho,s pipes up
" the nuke programs off, sir"
why
" cos PSLewis says we cant have nuclear warheads unless they say so, and they dont"
oh dear.
You are a bufoon!!!! you really think your childish drivel about how your the man with the football for the uk is going to make a shred of difference.
Method
take left hand and slap forehead repeatedly stating i am a buffoon
method end.
Thats where your grip on reality ends,
if you were so on the pulse as you know it pete, you would know there are kilo,s of weapons grade material that have gone missing over the years,
if you engaged the space invader of a brain cell that worked, you would, know that is only a matter of time before they have the capability, they have they money and they certainly have the ability.
best of the best dont make me laugh
has been!!! with the rest! more like
mart
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I saw your application come into the company .... I thought you were joking!
Anyway, we all had a hell of a laugh over it ....... you know, the best of the best .. we had a great giggle
You are right, of course, you don't live up to what we expect from our top flight professionals .... I admire you for applying though.
Sorry you failed at the first hurdle, if it's any consolation I said we should call you in for interview ... would have been nice to meet the monkey himself Sadly, we want the organ grinder, and you ain't it - are you now???
Pete
Anyway, we all had a hell of a laugh over it ....... you know, the best of the best .. we had a great giggle
You are right, of course, you don't live up to what we expect from our top flight professionals .... I admire you for applying though.
Sorry you failed at the first hurdle, if it's any consolation I said we should call you in for interview ... would have been nice to meet the monkey himself Sadly, we want the organ grinder, and you ain't it - are you now???
Pete
#38
Originally Posted by pslewis
I saw your application come into the company .... I thought you were joking!
Anyway, we all had a hell of a laugh over it ....... you know, the best of the best .. we had a great giggle
You are right, of course, you don't live up to what we expect from our top flight professionals .... I admire you for applying though.
Sorry you failed at the first hurdle, if it's any consolation I said we should call you in for interview ... would have been nice to meet the monkey himself Sadly, we want the organ grinder, and you ain't it - are you now???
Pete
Anyway, we all had a hell of a laugh over it ....... you know, the best of the best .. we had a great giggle
You are right, of course, you don't live up to what we expect from our top flight professionals .... I admire you for applying though.
Sorry you failed at the first hurdle, if it's any consolation I said we should call you in for interview ... would have been nice to meet the monkey himself Sadly, we want the organ grinder, and you ain't it - are you now???
Pete
as i said pete your all bluff and bluster, lets just say you really are out of the loop
btw funny how you change the subject when you realise your talking out of your a*se
Mart
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I was talking about the Thia fishermen ...... you, being the saddo you are, wanted to bring in the Iranian issue
I suggest you leave the thread to its original subject matter before you look even MORE of an idiot than you do now ......
I also asked where I sweared?? Can't you EVER answer a direct question?
Like I said .............. IDIOT!!
Pete
I suggest you leave the thread to its original subject matter before you look even MORE of an idiot than you do now ......
I also asked where I sweared?? Can't you EVER answer a direct question?
Like I said .............. IDIOT!!
Pete
#40
Pete - I agree (arrgghhhh!!! - FB stabs himself with a fork for a reality check) - It was all tooooooooooooooo handy. I reckon those two fishermen believe they have won the lottery, which explains the cameras and ****, and they have admitted that they bought a ticket in fuket, or anywhere else that rhymes with ticket mostly
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From what i gathered on the news, the bay where the murder happened was also the bay where the fishermen were moored up in their boat along with several others. They reamained after the incident and got nicked for it.
If they are supposedly innocent then the dna must have been rigged
why would they be smiling and smirking throughout their trial if they were 2 innocent people sentenced to death for murder.
If the case had been in the news and no one had been arrested in months people would be moaning about that, I think its a bit fishy (ahem) but it seems they are the culprits. You can only leave that countries judicial system to follow its process.
If they are supposedly innocent then the dna must have been rigged
why would they be smiling and smirking throughout their trial if they were 2 innocent people sentenced to death for murder.
If the case had been in the news and no one had been arrested in months people would be moaning about that, I think its a bit fishy (ahem) but it seems they are the culprits. You can only leave that countries judicial system to follow its process.
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Indeed, they are WAY too happy to be aware of what **** they are in!! They were smiling in court when told they would die FFS!!!!
They have been told some story like, "It's ok, it's a film for the western market, you play along and we will give you and your families $$$$"
The only time they will realise that it's all been a con is when they pop off to sleep and never wake again - mind you, they won't even know whats happening then, will they??
Smells like a great big smelly thing wrapped in a stinky cloth dip in something really fishy!!!
Pete
They have been told some story like, "It's ok, it's a film for the western market, you play along and we will give you and your families $$$$"
The only time they will realise that it's all been a con is when they pop off to sleep and never wake again - mind you, they won't even know whats happening then, will they??
Smells like a great big smelly thing wrapped in a stinky cloth dip in something really fishy!!!
Pete
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Smells like a great big smelly thing wrapped in a stinky cloth dip in something really fishy!!!
Pete
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Originally Posted by pslewis
My Ting Tong tells me it's Thia .............. she should know!!
Pete
Pete
How about some reference sources for
Thia
Did you mean: thai
http://www.bellydancingbythia.com/page1.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thia
http://cometothia.blogspot.com/
Did you mean to search for: thai
Your search for Thialand did not return any results.
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Pete according to the news on R5 and an interview with a brit who wons a bar/resraunt on the island the two fishermen where handed over by thier mates on the fishing boat after bragging to them about the rape and murder.
British Police where involved with the forensic process and it id'd these two as the culprits.
even if they confessed under duress the other evidence does not lie.
British Police where involved with the forensic process and it id'd these two as the culprits.
even if they confessed under duress the other evidence does not lie.
#49
Please step away from the Tardis mr Habgood
strewth, i thought somthing freaky was going on...
how come your posts are in the future??
current time is 9:43. but your posting at 10:xx
eeek
Mart
strewth, i thought somthing freaky was going on...
how come your posts are in the future??
current time is 9:43. but your posting at 10:xx
eeek
Mart
#50
Originally Posted by pslewis
I am convinced that they are 2 simpleton fishermen who have been caught in the wrong place at the wrong time ......... Pete
erm what about the victim?
if it was your daughter would you want the same?
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If it were my daughter, I'd want the people who did it brought to justice. I would NOT want a scapegoat or innocent imprisoned.
Anyway, hopefully time will tell as to whether the guys are guilty or not. If they are, then credit to the authorities there for a fast turnaround. If they are not, the whole thing would put me off visiting the place. After all, imagine if you were set up or framed as a drug trafficer and the case was over that fast and death penalty round the corner?
Anyway, hopefully time will tell as to whether the guys are guilty or not. If they are, then credit to the authorities there for a fast turnaround. If they are not, the whole thing would put me off visiting the place. After all, imagine if you were set up or framed as a drug trafficer and the case was over that fast and death penalty round the corner?
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
Anyway, hopefully time will tell as to whether the guys are guilty or not. ?
At the end of the day -as the above poster has said- you just have to trust that the Tai authorities realise that putting two innocents to death to appease the tourist industry would backfire masively if they were discovered. They maintain that it was an open and shut case- they may well be right.
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Mart 360
After all that inconsequential bluster from PSL which has amounted to absolutely nothing as usual, apart from the specious insults which always appear when he is losing the argument, I notice that he seems to be unable to answer the straight questions that I put to him just before your post.
Les
After all that inconsequential bluster from PSL which has amounted to absolutely nothing as usual, apart from the specious insults which always appear when he is losing the argument, I notice that he seems to be unable to answer the straight questions that I put to him just before your post.
Les
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Originally Posted by methodman
erm what about the victim?
if it was your daughter would you want the same?
if it was your daughter would you want the same?
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Originally Posted by mart360
sorry, who,s the idiot,
If you feel so strongly pete may i suggest
www.Amnesty-international.com
mart
If you feel so strongly pete may i suggest
www.Amnesty-international.com
mart
Idiot!
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I think that the case was fast-tracked through the courts instead of the usual months and months of waiting. Had it not been for this, it would seem like a normal case.
They may appeal which will take a few months.
They may appeal which will take a few months.
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
Pete according to the news on R5 and an interview with a brit who wons a bar/resraunt on the island the two fishermen where handed over by thier mates on the fishing boat after bragging to them about the rape and murder.
British Police where involved with the forensic process and it id'd these two as the culprits.
even if they confessed under duress the other evidence does not lie.
British Police where involved with the forensic process and it id'd these two as the culprits.
even if they confessed under duress the other evidence does not lie.
I'm still not comfortable with the death penalty though (bucking the uneducated-working-class-extreme-right-wing ScoobyNet tradition...). Thai prisons look truly awful; surely a full-life sentance there would be punishment enough; it looks like purgatory after all?
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Originally Posted by GC8
That's more reassuring.
I'm still not comfortable with the death penalty though (bucking the uneducated-working-class-extreme-right-wing ScoobyNet tradition...). Thai prisons look truly awful; surely a full-life sentance there would be punishment enough; it looks like purgatory after all?
Simon
I'm still not comfortable with the death penalty though (bucking the uneducated-working-class-extreme-right-wing ScoobyNet tradition...). Thai prisons look truly awful; surely a full-life sentance there would be punishment enough; it looks like purgatory after all?
Simon
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