Good RWD cheap car for Learner
23 January 2006, 09:36 PM
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23 January 2006, 10:46 PM
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Thanks for all the suggestions...BMW is looking good as would a nice MKII escort ( if they could be found?) but I'm also wondering about an old MGB (qsort of 'comfortingly' slow by todays standards)......Insurance shouldn't be too bad with him as named driver...
RE: FWD vs RWD - My first car and the car I learnt in was RWD so this is why I'm thinking this is best - how many of you who had FWD as a first car found the transition to RWD difficult ?
This may sound liek a stupid question but does having a FWD as your first car teach you how to handle a car as well as learning in a RWD drive ?
Anyway, cheers guys...
RE: FWD vs RWD - My first car and the car I learnt in was RWD so this is why I'm thinking this is best - how many of you who had FWD as a first car found the transition to RWD difficult ?
This may sound liek a stupid question but does having a FWD as your first car teach you how to handle a car as well as learning in a RWD drive ?
Anyway, cheers guys...
23 January 2006, 11:39 PM
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24 January 2006, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by flynnstudio
This may sound liek a stupid question but does having a FWD as your first car teach you how to handle a car as well as learning in a RWD drive ?
Anyway, cheers guys...
Not to mention taking brakes and syncros for granted
Certainly makes driving any modern car a piece of of p**s
24 January 2006, 09:15 AM
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Sierra or mk1 2 escort. These are really your only choices that are going to provide some street cred and be cheap to insure. There is no way a 17 yr old will be insured on a BMW of any sort. I dont think the transition from Fwd to RWD perticurly hard so and personally i would prefer to stick him in somthing less troublesome i.e. a fwd car till he gets the racing car driver out of him
24 January 2006, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by automodellistagt
Sierra or mk1 2 escort. These are really your only choices that are going to provide some street cred and be cheap to insure. There is no way a 17 yr old will be insured on a BMW of any sort. I dont think the transition from Fwd to RWD perticurly hard so and personally i would prefer to stick him in somthing less troublesome i.e. a fwd car till he gets the racing car driver out of him
I had my only crash when I was 17, in a Nissan Bluebird, which was a modern car at the time. Me and my girlfriend walked away but might not have done in an old car.
First rwd car I drove was a morris minor! Slow, awful brakes, but that's a sweet handling car in its way... lovely direct steering. Just a thought - get a mog with uprated brakes (and gearbox?) and you won't lose money on it. More than 400 quid though.
24 January 2006, 01:00 PM
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When it comes to the driving experience surely the end that's driven is only relevent when you are exceeding the limits of traction.
I started my driving life in a 1.3 Chevette - safe enough car but the only chance of power-on oversteer was in a field - and believe me I tried on every wet roundabout!
Even the handling on my E30 318i (which was quite a stretch on insurance for a 20 yr old) wasn't massively influenced by rear wheel drive. The 325i I had later was another kettle of fish though!
If he's only learning to drive it's not wise to get a high powered car, and without enough power to lose traction at the rear, a low powered rwd is not really different from a low power fwd and a damn sight harder to find. Something like a shopping clio or 205 is going to give him all the fun he needs, without additional power that he doesn't. He can safely learn the car's limits without exceeding his own by too much.
I started my driving life in a 1.3 Chevette - safe enough car but the only chance of power-on oversteer was in a field - and believe me I tried on every wet roundabout!
Even the handling on my E30 318i (which was quite a stretch on insurance for a 20 yr old) wasn't massively influenced by rear wheel drive. The 325i I had later was another kettle of fish though!
If he's only learning to drive it's not wise to get a high powered car, and without enough power to lose traction at the rear, a low powered rwd is not really different from a low power fwd and a damn sight harder to find. Something like a shopping clio or 205 is going to give him all the fun he needs, without additional power that he doesn't. He can safely learn the car's limits without exceeding his own by too much.
24 January 2006, 06:04 PM
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RE: FWD vs RWD - My first car and the car I learnt in was RWD so this is why I'm thinking this is best - how many of you who had FWD as a first car found the transition to RWD difficult ?
Unless you are screeching around corners at stupid speeds, you will not tell if its fwd, rwd or 4wd.
Get a small slow car that you can handle and continue to learn in for a couple of years.
If you are planning to take whatever car on the road to test its handling, I suggest you post on here first so I can stay out of the way whilst you slam into the nearest wall!
Ted.
Unless you are screeching around corners at stupid speeds, you will not tell if its fwd, rwd or 4wd.
Get a small slow car that you can handle and continue to learn in for a couple of years.
If you are planning to take whatever car on the road to test its handling, I suggest you post on here first so I can stay out of the way whilst you slam into the nearest wall!
Ted.
24 January 2006, 07:06 PM
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Learn in a cheap car, doesn't matter what wheels are driven as long as the car is simple to drive. Micras, fiestas etc.
Once passed and used to driving a bit (say a year or so after passing) then get a rwd (ins should be cheaper by then) if desired.
Once passed and used to driving a bit (say a year or so after passing) then get a rwd (ins should be cheaper by then) if desired.
25 January 2006, 11:21 AM
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You will get a decent 1.6 litre sierra for 400 pounds. Should have a good MOT. Sierras have character, decent brakes and handling and cheap parts. For the money they are great. 1.6's are around 75 bhp I think, 1.8's are around 90bhp
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25 January 2006, 11:31 AM
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Oh, and I drove FWD for most my life but last 3 cars are RWD and powerful (s2000, bmw 740, westfield) but I was sensible and wanted to learn RWD so the transition was fine. Wouldn't want to have driven the s2k or Westie when I was 20 though, I woulda killed myself
25 January 2006, 11:35 AM
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I started off on motorbikes. So in a sense I started off with RWD
Having fell off my old scrambler (off road) in more ways than I can imagine, I learnt a fair bit of what you can and can't do, I think the transition to a FWD car was easier....it doesn't hurt as much
Having fell off my old scrambler (off road) in more ways than I can imagine, I learnt a fair bit of what you can and can't do, I think the transition to a FWD car was easier....it doesn't hurt as much
25 January 2006, 02:53 PM
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@ 17 I learnt about FWD courtesy of a Mini
@ 17 3/4 I learnt about RWD courtesy of an MG midget
The lesson was the very first roundabout if I remember correctly
MG Midget ticks some of the boxes. RWD, Should be able to get soemthing for £400, Cheap classic insurance. Definately Fun.
But reliability ??...not for £400.
@ 17 3/4 I learnt about RWD courtesy of an MG midget
The lesson was the very first roundabout if I remember correctly
MG Midget ticks some of the boxes. RWD, Should be able to get soemthing for £400, Cheap classic insurance. Definately Fun.
But reliability ??...not for £400.
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