Hamas incharge of Palestine...
#31
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: West Mids, Notts & Lincs
Posts: 1,790
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
i say bring em on! Isreal kicked *** in the 70's. They only gave back the west bank and gaza so they can invade them again!
Only kidding for all those ppl that have a political degree on world current affairs or that have family in the forces.
Only kidding for all those ppl that have a political degree on world current affairs or that have family in the forces.
#34
Scooby Senior
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: West Yorks.
Posts: 4,130
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I don't really see how Hamas getting into power is a bad thing - after all if you look at similar cases - Arafat and the PLO and Adams and Sinn Fein - once you get these kind of organisations bogged down in the quagmire of politics they have no real choice but to denounce violence in order to appear credible. There will be the inevitible split-off factions which prefer to wage guerilla war but these will become increasingly isolated and Hamas will have to distance itself from them if it wants to actually make any improvements to the life of Palestinians.
#35
Now what is the attitude of the Palastinian Electorate?
Is this a sophisticated Electorate deciding to vote Hamas into power believing that that will be the way to achieve a negoiated settlement because Hamas would have to give up armed action and would have to persue diplomatic methods?
Or because the Electorate believe in the opinions that Hamas have previously expressed? In which case do the Electorate think and want a war to remove Israel?
All questions as usual.
Is this a sophisticated Electorate deciding to vote Hamas into power believing that that will be the way to achieve a negoiated settlement because Hamas would have to give up armed action and would have to persue diplomatic methods?
Or because the Electorate believe in the opinions that Hamas have previously expressed? In which case do the Electorate think and want a war to remove Israel?
All questions as usual.
Last edited by Vegescoob; 27 January 2006 at 12:30 PM.
#36
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: www.tiovicente.com
Posts: 2,006
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I don't understand why everyone is getting their knickers in a twist about Hamas? The PLO was a terrorist organisation and both Israel and the US happily dealt with them and the Israelis themselves were terrorists at one point, so why should Hamas be treated so differently?
#37
Originally Posted by Flatcapdriver
I don't understand why everyone is getting their knickers in a twist about Hamas? The PLO was a terrorist organisation and both Israel and the US happily dealt with them and the Israelis themselves were terrorists at one point, so why should Hamas be treated so differently?
#39
have to agree with previous comments, that are not coming thru on the official news briefs - that Hamas are just following tradition, recently seen with the IRA / Sinn Fein and previously seen with the terrorist Stern Gang.
And what also doesn't get publicised is the social programmes run by Hamas for the Palestinian people.
In fact Hamas seem to have got a majority of votes that most western political parties can only dream about.
.. oh, the irony.
And what also doesn't get publicised is the social programmes run by Hamas for the Palestinian people.
In fact Hamas seem to have got a majority of votes that most western political parties can only dream about.
.. oh, the irony.
#40
Originally Posted by **************
Hamas is a far more aggressive and extremist organisation than the PLO thats why.
That was one of the reasons why Abbas wanted to postpone the elections: he knew the people were sick of the corruption and the lack of progress in the peace road map. It was clear for months now that Hamas was going to do very well in the elections.
BTW: Europe now has to decide if they want to continue to pay the wages of the Palestinian civil servants...
#41
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: www.tiovicente.com
Posts: 2,006
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by **************
Hamas is a far more aggressive and extremist organisation than the PLO thats why.
#42
Originally Posted by philc
And what also doesn't get publicised is the social programmes run by Hamas for the Palestinian people.
#43
Originally Posted by Flatcapdriver
I think you need to re-read your history books then. Try googling up Arafat, Munich and a few others.
#46
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Talk to the hand....
Posts: 13,331
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by philc
In fact Hamas seem to have got a majority of votes that most western political parties can only dream about.
.. oh, the irony.
.. oh, the irony.
#47
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: London Town
Posts: 983
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by TheBigMan
Dunno why people are getting their nickers in a twist generally.
#48
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: West Mids, Notts & Lincs
Posts: 1,790
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
What happened to the Judean People's Front', 'The People's Front of Judea', and (with only one member) 'The Judean Popular People's Front'.
Are they still in the running?
Are they still in the running?
#49
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Talk to the hand....
Posts: 13,331
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by ricardo_wrx
What happened to the 'The Judean Popular People's Front'.
Are they still in the running?
Are they still in the running?
He's over there....
"Splitter!!"
Last edited by unclebuck; 27 January 2006 at 02:16 PM.
#50
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Hunting for my next Impreza!
Posts: 2,388
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Wurzel
they seem just as thick as you Brits voting labour in again!
Some people will never learn!!!!
Some people will never learn!!!!
#51
Originally Posted by **************
Yes that was a very long time ago and Arafat wanted change, he thrived on the publicity. Do you see Hamas having a leader with the same self gratification as Arafat? I don't.
They did have Sheik Yassin, but he got blown to smithereens by the IDF, hum.
#52
The Middle East has been a flash point in world politics for many many years now. If there was a major conflict there which could easily start up, there would be so many vested interests from the rest of the world that B2Zero's theory is not in the least far fetched.
Les
Les
#55
Damned Brits !
Joking aside, it is fascinating to see how far you have to go back in history sometimes to understand what is happening today. Of course there's a whole history leading up to that declaration as well BTW.
Joking aside, it is fascinating to see how far you have to go back in history sometimes to understand what is happening today. Of course there's a whole history leading up to that declaration as well BTW.
#56
It is true that if a country behaves badly towards another country or its people, or carries out questionable or illegal activities, that will always come back to haunt it for many many years to come in the future.
Bit like starting war in the Middle East without Security Council backing I suppose !
Les
Bit like starting war in the Middle East without Security Council backing I suppose !
Les
#57
Scooby Newbie
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Near Leslie
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
is true that if a country behaves badly towards another country or its people, or carries out questionable or illegal activities, that will always come back to haunt it for many many years to come in the future.
Bit like starting war in the Middle East without Security Council backing I suppose !
Bit like starting war in the Middle East without Security Council backing I suppose !
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
drb5
Non Car Related Items For sale
4
12 January 2015 10:37 AM
David Lock
Non Scooby Related
49
05 January 2009 11:52 AM