The Chief

With regards to performance - from what i can gather the WRX has more bhp per ton than an STi with it being lighter (obviously ) so would a WRX with PPP be pretty evenly matched to an STi with PPP???? - in a straight line anyway.

Zip Boing Arial Whoop

Exactly... Plus , what do you do a track day for??? If its to squeeze every tenth from your lap time perhaps you should try circuit racing, if you are going to exploit your cars handling / speed in a safe(ish) manner then trackdays are great.. and this is my point, when I trackdayed my Sti, it was all very benign. Fast but uninvolving, very little sidways action without going in to "Big Accident Zone".. The WRX could be driven upto its limits with a wiggle in its tail and still be within the confines of safety (for my driving skills anyway).

But yes the brakes did grumble and a new set of disks for the WRX need to be ordered..Oh well, if we must do these things!

As far as the real world, day to day I would still say the WRX is a faster A to B car on most roads. The ride is better, the grip levels high enough and ..wait a minute read the bit above about trackdays... more trusting at the limit.

One other point I have never had a bad incident in the WRX with regards theives or boy racers, in the Sti, twice I had youths try to drive into me in an attempt (i think) to get me out the car, both times I was fortunate to to notice the attention and make a avoiding manouver. The wife wouldn't drive the Sti due to attention but loves the WRX (minus point!).

Again Drive both. look at running costs, look at what driving you do and make your own mind up... I wish I had when I ordered the Sti. I sold it after 6 months and lost £6K.

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iTrader: (41)

Are we saying that it is better to fit uprated anti roll bars than go down the PD spring route ?

Stevie_h

After fitting the whiteline rear anti roll bar and rear solid drop links i was very happy with the handling and felt no need to fit the Prodrive springs. Total cost fitted was about £150.

ste

corradoboy

Yes I've driven an STi with Prodive springs after I fitted my WRX with the Whiteline ARB & links and it is a much more rewarding mod. If you want to go further then the AST coilovers are outstanding, and can be had at a good price at the mo' in Group Buys from Powerstation (although, nowhere near as good as the price I paid ).

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iTrader: (41)

AST coilovers ? - what are the benefits and how do they work ?

corradoboy

AST coilovers as fitted to the Litchfield Type 25. Fully height adjustable and 12 position damp adjustable. In combination with adjustable Whiteline ARB's you can tailor the handling characteristics of the car to suit your own driving style, or any specific event. On the road I use setting 2 all 'round, until I head out to the twisties on a spirited run when I move up to between 4 and 7. 8-12 I haven't yet tried but would be more suited to track.

corradoboy

Don't worry about the warranty, only thing it would affect is a claim for a new ARB, and as you have one it's not gonna happen. Fitting an aftermarket ARB will not invalidate the entire warranty, just any claim which can be directly apportioned to the fitting of that part. Rear is easy to do, the front is a bit more involved and better to let someone with a ramp and experience tackle it. I believe Scoobyclinics prices for these parts include fitting

Stevie_h

No need to do the fronts, i never did, but don't just take my word for it,

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthrea...ght=drop+links

Ste

Sport160

Sorry, but thicko question here

Do the whiteline ARB and links alter the ride height of the car ? I'm interested in a mod that helps the car feel a little more planted but doesn't impact ride quality to badly. However a few time a year I load my WRX to the limit with 4 people, a roof box, and 3/4 mountain bikes off the back, for holidays in europe.

Will the ARB and links alter my ability to carry all this crap about ??

cheers

corradoboy

No, no and no ! Ride height remains unchanged. Ride quality is improved as cornering will be much flatter, but the springs and dampers still soak up the bumps. It will not affect load carrying abilities.

HTH

Sport160

Ta

mikepaul

WRX PPP slighty quicker than standard Sti IMHO as it's carrying a lot less weight (-75Gg or 11.5 stone) and I did test both , but I feel the Sti handles better in hard cornering and the rear wing looks great

I thnk also the 15mpg the dealer quoted with the Sti PPP scared me of also.

As others have said drive both.

Driving a Subaru : while you corner hard with poise and grip relaxed in the knowledge you are sane and wise, others around you are sliding sideways towards the nearest lamppost or hedge, thinking oh boy this is going to be expensive to fix!.

Castrol

Now I always thought that as well, until I drove a std STi UK, and kept it for 24hrs. I think the gearbox helps give the STi the edge. The WRX is faster to 60, but slower to 100mph. Check out the mid-range figures from Prodrive and (assuming you believe them), you'll see the Std STi is as quick or quicker throughout the speed range.

After 2 std Classics, 1 with Mods, 1 Std WRX, 2 WRX PPPs, we bought a new STi UK PPP and have never looked back. We'd have been happy to buy the std STi UK, but the PPP was free last Summer as most of you know. Top bargain!

Suspension, steering, gearbox, brakes, grip, handling and performance make it the better car (IMO). My Wife's too. Oh, and it cost £430 to insure fully comp. Less than the renewal quote for the year old WRX PPP.

Cheers

GREGGYG

iTrader: (2)

I've owned a:
WRX PPP 02
WRX PPP 03
STi 03 Standard
STi 02 PPP

The best, for me is my current STi PPP, closely followed by the WRX PPP 03. Both lovely driver's cars. WRX PPP must have Prodrive springs, or similar, and ideally uprated pads, Ferodo DS 2500.

paulhsti

I test drove the WRXppp and the 04STI and bought the STI, it was more cash but at that time I had it and would have always asked myself why I had not bought the top of the range (apart from WR1) the STI can be modded to PPP or TSL where as the WRXppp is "stuck" at 260bhp and several suspension and brake mod's required to get close.

Anyway as the company I work for (good old BSA going bust yet again) is on its last legs my Black 54 reg STI is up for offers around £16K. 14,000 slow miles, prodrive rearbox, new front tyres and VGC.
paul.hotholloway@virgin.net