VXRBOY

thought i'd raise my head again, Dont know what people are worries about depreciation for all new car depreciate. Look in th e autotrader you will see wrx devalue 10 grand in 2 years, fact is nobody knows how VXR will cos its new, should be on par with WRX if not better cos there might be less.

chiark

Don't buy a new scoob then. 8k depreciation in 2 years, and that was selling privately. Dealers wanted to offer a figure that would see me losing 10k.

My current car was 32k when new, and I bought it three and a bit years later for 16k. Comparatively speaking, if the VXR manages 9K then that's cheap motoring.

Ouch baby, very ouch.

As a comparison, my first scoob (a dutch import) lost about 4k in 3 years: I wish I could have another car like that...

VXRBOY

Did have 2 new scoobs, second one lost 7.5k in just over a year

chiark

Painful, innit?

Chins, is that a guaranteed future value on a PCP or something?

Chins

Not a guaranteed figure and for some reason the mags IMHO have wrong residuals. They state £8700 after 3 years, but the less expensive and less desirable SRI being worth the same. If you go to Lexfreechoice, they will guarantee £8500 on the VXR and £7100 on the SRI - which is more inline. Guaranteed residuals nowadays have a buffer built in, so £8500 is low.

If you look at cars such as the LCR and Type R, you wont buy any of these at 3 years for less than 9k and more likely 10k (both of these are suffering now due to end of life and new competition), unless they have high mileage. The VXR whilst not the greatest hot hatch is only having 2000 sold this year (under half the number of GTI's). Therefore I actually cant see them being sold for under 10k at 3 years. Not that it bothers me as there is noway I'll have one then

My VXR cost 17k or 18k with the full heated Leather, so £8 or 9k in 3 years is damn cheap motoring (in todays environment)

Jonathan

AudiLover

Actually not every car bus etc has one just most of them.

I actually mean a limited slip differential. Does the VXR have one?

BTW you can pick up VXR's for around 16k now and on another forum they really arent getting too much praise. Everyones saying get the ST instead.

To know if this one will hold its value one would have to look at their previous hot hatches. I myself wouldnt buy one new due to the depreciation but then I wouldnt buy any car new unless I won the lottery.

Couldnt one pick up a r32 for about 17/18 grand now. Faster car with better interior that will hold its value alot better.

Chins

One could pick up an R32, but Ive already had one and found it a bit sluggish, prefer the VXR. Had a second hand audi that lost a load as well RS4, so second isnt always best

slim_boy_fat

Go on show me ones that dont have a diff....

bigsinky

i thought the monaro was the only vxr to have

bluto22b

Maybe, but could everyone live with the yogurt pot plastics and residuals which would put most MG/Rover's to shame not to mention the electrical gremlins and p1ss poor after sales.

No thanks

Blutes

bluto22b

Are you trying to convince yourself laddy? The VXR is and WILL BE a mass produced vehicle (they will churn them out by the lorry load every second at Elsmere Port, they are already discounting them heavily at my loacl dealer ). You only have to look on your average council estate to see crapped out old Astra GSI/GTE (delete where appropriate) to understand that high performance Vauxhalls are uber-Chav.

Blutes

logiclee

And me....

Can't think of anything that does not have a diff.

Maybe something with tracks instead of wheels or electric/hydraulic drive vehicles with individual motors/drives on each wheel.

Cheers
Lee

Steve vRS

Which is why I'm veering towards a Golf GTi over the VXRST cars. It should hold it's value quite well. A remap will see 240BHP and a more handsome, understated car to boot.

It would have to be a second car for the wife and long journeys though as my 182 Cup would still whip it's *** on track

Steve

Chins

Well VW are doing 5000 GTI each year and GM 2000 VXR's. Doesnt take a genius to know which you'll see more of. After owning a MKV GTI its good to sleep in Dont miss my old 182 either, good if you like rattles though

AudiLover

Cant be bothered to look for one but heres something to read.

slim_boy_fat

PMSL




So what you actually mean is you have no idea what a diffential is and you had to look up how things work to find out, and even after reading about it you are still clueless..

Cheers

AudiLover

Why would I ask if the car had a limited slip differential then if I didnt know what it does. And how would I find a vehicle that didnt have one. Cant exactly google for cars with no differential and expect answers. All that matters is that not every car has a differential.

SPIDERWRX

(we didn’t manage to match Vauxhall’s acceleration or top speed claims at the test track. Rumour is the claimed 0-60mph time was achieved on optional 19-inch alloys, which let the VXR hit 60mph in second gear. On the 18-inch wheels of our test car, we needed to change to third, and so couldn’t better 6.4sec over a two way average, with a best of 6.3sec. Meanwhile, we topped out at 143mph rather than the claimed 152mph on our high speed circuit, though this was recorded on a banked track which robs a few mph.
We couldn’t match Vauxhall’s economy claims, either. The combined official figure of 30.4mpg remains some way above our average of 18.9mpg, though our touring figure of 22.3mpg ran it a little closer.)

www.autocar.co.uk

so a std WRX would kill it to 60mph (then try going past me) VXR needs 3rd gear haha better get a scooby.... or maybe a ST

AudiLover

Or a evolution FQ340

logiclee

So have you found one without a diff?

How can you make that statement when you dont know of a single car that doesn't.

Some 4X4's do not have central diff's but they are not permanent 4X4's and they still have diffs in the axles.

Cheers
Lee

AudiLover

BECAUSE ON THE WEBSITE IT STATES IN BLACK AND WHITE THAT NOT EVERY CAR HAS A DIFFERNETIAL.

Serious how hard is that to believe, especially when there are still cars out there being built with a wooden chassis.

rob878

because as of yet i haven't seen a car built since the 1920's with a soid rear axle and chain drive. Even the z cars motor bike mini conversion using chain chain has a choice of an lsd or a normal diff.

I hope that you are mixing your lsd with your basic diffs in the above statement. As not all cars trucks etc have lsd s. Though with out a diff or a fully locked diff cornering becomes a little more lively.

slim_boy_fat

Are you 12?

Rokerlad

The VXR looks very Max Power / Rip Speed -ish to me. Not saying it's not a bad car but it just doesn't appeal to me and just doesn't look classy. Vauxhaul's in general have poor depriciation , just look at VX220's vs Elises for evidence. As a current Leon Cupra R owner who is looking for a new motor in the next 12 months, the Focus ST, Golf GTi are currently on my list..waiting for the New Leon Cupra to blow me away as well.

VXRBOY

Spiderwrx, I did have a wrx and a wrx ppp and trust me this VXR is faster in everyday driving (i have never raced anybody 0-60,these figures are a bit irelevant, if you did it all the time anyway you would spend a lot on new clutches). Focus and ST slower and look boring ,and there will be more about so common like a wrx

alwong

Think the thread is going off topic?

During the last week, i've noticed the benefits of having the 4wd wrx.
I know after test driving the VXR, with the surface being so slippy due to the sub zero conditions, the car will not provide you confidence trying to pull off quicky at a roundabout!!

logiclee

One website (known for being inaccurate) says it so it must be true. LOL

Anyone with a basic grasp of engineering knows you have to have something that allows for the difference in rotation speeds of an inside and outside wheel if they are both being driven from a common source.
Suppose you could have a twin engined car driving one wheel each.
Until someone can point out a road car with 4 wheels and an internal combutsion engine whith no diff I'll stay unconvinced.

Cheers
Lee

SPIDERWRX

(Spiderwrx, I did have a wrx and a wrx ppp and trust me this VXR is faster in everyday driving)

you maybe right, once it is on the move..

but you can only go 70mph on todays roads
so a wrx would beat it to 70mph,maybe then the vxr would be faster (1 power going to just the FW only. 2 the vxr is a alot more slim line than a wrx)

AudiLover

So teher you have just answered your own question. A car without a differential.

Now can you finally tell me if the VXR has a LSD?

logiclee

Eh?