The Zohan

Here lies the problem

This government is doing little to stamp out this sort of thing, they deem it imflamatory to do so.
With this in mind what would happen if say 10,000 non-Muslims took to the streets to protest about the Muslims who appear to be inciting violence towards the west and non-Muslims?
Imagine non-muslims burning effigies on Muhammed and carrying banners saying kill all Musims they are bad.

I guess it would not be allowed. it would be stopped in the interests of law and order.

Here lies the problem a govenment who pay lip service to the very people it is suipposed to protect.
Moerate people are bing puashed towards the extremes like the bnp as they seem to be the only people who care. I for one feel thay have thier own agendas!

What needs to happen is that protests like this are delt with equal measures. the trouble makers are expelled/removed and anyone who cannot live by the laws and rules of this country are welcome to move on to where they will feel more at home!

I have a partner and two small kids, i want my kids to grow up safe and secure and with good morales and respect to others no matter their colour or religion.


If the uk slides any futher down then i will look at emmigrating to somewhere better which better suits me and mine, assuming they wil have me of course.

I fear long beofre that happens there will be a civil war in the UK if this governbment does not take this very seriously.

This nall started over some cartoons in a Danish newspaper and have evolved into so much more.

_RIP_

Exactly. And so the cycle begins once more. Stage a demo of hate, become villified in your host nation, find you cant get a job, people avoid you like the plague, become even more extreme in your hatred, stage a demo filled with more hate.




Look what she has on her bonnet, a young child who doesnt even understand what's happening. This just compltely sickens me. It's very, very scary that these sort of people could be your next door neighbour.


After the London bombings you'd think these morons would get the message.

Bonehead

I agree with all of the above
As usual the government proove themselves to be wholly useless.

The first thing I see happening is normal level headed decent members of society who happen to be muslim will end up being tarred as having the same views as these nutters.
The consequences(sp) of that are obvious

Looking at those pictures of the police guarding those protesters its interesting to see the expressions on the faces of the police - most of them look ashamed to be there. I've no doubt they're all thinking the same things we are.
I'm sure there bosses specifically told them not to nick any of the protesters. Just think of the headlines in the muslim world if a british bobby nicked a muslim at that protest

The Zohan

what hope is there for kids bought up with this sort of brain washing.

This is religion being used for it's worst ends

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

What message? They haven't been given any message. The British government was so quick to start appeasing the majority of Muslims that any message was lost in the government's rush to paint yellow stripes down their own backs.

And it just continues. Don't upset Muslims, don't upset Seikhs, don't upset blacks, don't upset anyone, ..........except the majority of white UK voters

The government are "sowing the wind". It will be we, who will "reap the whirlwind"

Alcazar

Poor Guy

i reckon we should get all these muslim extremists and drop them in the middly of the desert. then blow it up.

if i saw a union flag on fire id be right over to put it out. Id be furious!

Diamond Dave

I started a thread last year asking if the BNP could ever become a credible force.
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showpost....59&postcount=1

alcazar

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The answer's yes! It happened with the fascists in Germany in the '30s, and it COULD happen here.

All it needs is for the population to BELIEVE that one group is getting treated better than they are, and they will be ready to take action. The German government told lies about Jews to further their own ends........we can openly SEE Muslims, and others, getting treated differently by the police, the goverment, councils, etc etc.The BNP WILL increase it's membership over this, count on it.

And then we can ALL be afraid.

Alcazar

unclebuck

More weak government from New Labour. Given that there is no longer a moderate right of centre alternative in UK politics I expect the BNP to rise rapidly in popularity. Frankly, something has to be done after these dispicable displays by the muslim community.

JCScooby

Its not so much weak labour, its more of a weakness shown by the British public. WE should be out in the streets protesting against these muslims and forcing them out of OUR country.

2000TLondon

The thing that makes me laugh, is half of these fanactics are probably seeking asylum from an oppressive state. They flee from a state where they probably don't have democracy, freedom of speech or political freedom. Then they get here and moan about the freedoms they probably dreamt about, and call for more terror attacks in London? If these fanatics hate the West so much why won't they leave? Because they would never get away with this behaviour anywhere else. Does anyone think a British person could stand outside a Church in Iran, Iraq, Saudi etc and set light to a flag of the host country, as they have done outside Regents Park Mosque with the Union Jack, and expect the police to just stand and watch????? You'd be lynched!

The police or Mi5 should be sending ****** squads in to the crowd and taking the ******* calling for more bombs, interrogating them, charge them with inciting racial hatred then send them back to wherever they fled from.

I think it is important to state that I do not think these people / fanatics represent the Muslim or Islamic world one bit, and that the reaction to these cartoons has been blown all out of proportion and is just an excuse to whip up some anti-Western feeling. Which in turn will lead to moderate people becoming more extreme in their views towards these fanatics and the people they CLAIM to represent.

2000TLondon

It is not displays by the muslim community. The BNP would have you believe it was, but they are as extreme, rediculous and dangerous as these fanatics calling for more bombs.

RedFive

Just as you don't care to still - and yes, I know it's quite difficult right now - differentiate between law obiding muslims and extreme hotheads ?

2000TLondon

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/4681294.stm


Syrians have set fire to the Norwegian and Danish embassies in Damascus to protest at the publication of newspaper cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad.

Angry protesters attacked the Norwegian mission after storming the Danish site amid chants of "God is great".

unclebuck

Yes it is. And I don't need the BNP to tell me what to think thank you. Are you suggesting that a toddler child is a fanatical terrorist then?

_RIP_

Exactly. I'd think social services would be rather interested in this case. If the mother/father are leaving their child open to danger from this sort of stance then I'd be looking at a protection and/or care order. You cant have fanatical lunatics looking after a child, end of.

2000TLondon

Well, no it's not. No more than the BNP rallies are a display by the Christian / Catholic / non-Muslim community. These people are not representative of the Muslim community.

I'm sure the child didn't pop down to the pound shop to buy an I love Al Queda hat and it's very unlikely she constructed that placard!

SwissTony

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missing the point completely, it dosent matter whether they are reprensentative of the muslim community or not, the fact remains that this protest shouldnt have been allowed to happen in the first place.

and how about all the non represented muslims getting off their fat ***** and actively protesting themselves about these so called militants and openly coming out to distance themselves from this disgraceful spectacle.

no?? i didnt see them doing that..

if i was the muslims who dont bcondone this sort of thing, I would down there, saying ffs guys dont do this, it aint gonna win you any support and we have all chose to live here. so stop it now before we all get lumped together as the same fanatical nutcases.

and dont even bother trying to wheel out a lone spokesperson nfrom some bloody mosque and saying..oh yes its terrible and we dont like it"

Full stop, all those who were at the protest should be deported. Dont just watch the blooming video screens and make some notes, get down there, stop it, round them all up and put them on a boat.
in fact put them on the Al Salam Boccaccio 99...(tastless i know but trying to get a point across) and bloody good riddence.

Just show them that this will not be tolerated anymore..end of.

22BUK

What are the idiots protesting about? As far as I know, no UK newspaper has published the cartoons (anyone know why not?) so the protestors haven't seen them. Are they just sheep with no mind of their own?

_RIP_

Wakey, wakey m8. No offence intended but yeah, point very missed.

DEEDEE

Why when we say something in this Country do we get slated for being a Bigot. When I see and hear what is said against the people of the Western World, no wonder the BNP and other extreme groups are in the News. I do not wish to share my views, but sad to say some people would disagree. I do not wish harm or ill doing, but would sat its about time this Country grew some Backbone.

StickyMicky

its all going **** up

i feel sorry for the kids i have not fathered yet

Adrian F

Well i think the images will turn out to be the best recruiting video for the BNP. This week we have seen BBC video of BNP saying the Islam is a dangerous religion and then prosecuted for having this view and now we see people on the streets of London claiming to represent Muslims calling for people to beheaded!

Maybe the BNP can use this in the next court case as evidence for their defence?

If the Muslim community dont stop this going on then it will divide soceity even more.

Already people who have anything to do with Asylum seekers see that they get treated better than OAP's for example in terms of benefits and services and housing and this will eventually come out to be public knowledge. There should be some sort of conditions to people choosing to take asylum here why should we change to suit them? Cartoons like that have a long history in the UK and you dont see Catholic's on the streets when they are about the Pope or C of E when they are about the Queen or Christ do you so why should we treat Muslim's any different they choose to live in a christian country and look at the anti jewish cartoons published in some arab countries!

Funny enough in another Thread their are serving Police offices defending fineing a man for public order offences by giving a mobile speed trap the fingar whilst being BELOW the limit as having to enforce the law to maintian respect and here we see blatent examples of law breaking being sanctioned by the Government and Police.

ESH

I've either had my head burried in the sand this week with too much work or just not been watching / paying attention to the news. Without going to various sites to find out more.....Where have these protests been taking place?

Every group foriegn or domestic have their right wings splurting out propaganda!!

All the major parties seem to be sitting in the middle, too frightened to do anything about this, especially since the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and with the issues in Iran and Palestine I can see why so many extremist muslims are looking for any excuse to have a pop. Public opinion is split which means no-one is pulling their finger out!

I'm pretty sure the various islamic publications take every opportunity to look down on our society too and i agree that if protest was to take place against islam it might be a non stater.

Where do I sit............I completely disagree with the whole over-reaction of the these islamic western hating people who have been offered a chance of a better life in the UK. To do this when our country are providing them with opportunities (education, health care, benefits etc).

The whole BNP thing scares me. People seeing these ethnic ******* almost getting away with this and thinking I'll right wing it too.....I've probably missed the point slightly but writing is theraputic.....Ahhh

My point is each time there are bi-elections and elections, including the general election less and less people are turning up.....Too many people don't give hoot about where this country is going...and it is going down the toilet.

I've a son to bring up and intend on doing it in the uk...These s0ds won't beat me!!!!! I'll do what ever it takes to look after friends and family. That means voting when the time comes. Can't do more than that!

I'm a non white in the UK who was born and brought up here and am thankful for the opportunites that come with being a british citizen. I live in a great area in london that embraces a multi cultural community and london itself is wholly muticultural so I probably miss alot of this racism or continue to bury my had in the sand.

My 20 pence Rant

Esh...

redwrx

The best thing the media could have done, is not to show the protests ... that would have pi$$ed on their bonfire. Or maybe reported on them, but blacked the screen.

It seems to be, that these people do things for publicity... dont give the fc*kers any..!!

2000TLondon

I don't think I'm missing the point at all mate, and no offence taken!

But in my previous posts I said they should grab the ******* w@nkers that are down there protesting, should round up the ******* that burn the flags outside Regents Park, and get them off to Guantanamo for all I care. Along with that hook handed gob****e that's lording it in Belmarsh.

People should be allowed to protest, as this is a great pirvilege of a free society, but people should not be allowed to a) HIDE THEIR FACE IN PUBLIC THE COWARDLY TW@TS b) CARRY PLACARDS THAT GLORIFY OR INCITE VIOLENCE OR THAT THREATEN OUR SECURITY. Back to my previous post, if any of us tried this in a Middle Eastern country............

And as for "people" choosing to live here and denouncing and disrespecting our VERY hard earned freedom of speech and freedom of choice, it makes me very, very angry!

However, I think it is irresponsible to tar the entire Muslim / Islamic world, of which there are billions of people, with the same brush as these lunatics.

KiwiGTI

I've been listening to that excuse for years now and it is complete rubbish. The majority of the worlds Muslims are behind these protests and the majority of the worlds Muslims don't like the West.

No they aren't all extremists because of human nature, human society wouldn't have advanced this far if everyone was capable of these actions, but that doesn't mean they don't quietly support or condone these actions.

Aztec Performance Ltd

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I quite like the country we live in

I just dont like the fact that we are killing tens of thousands of innocent Muslims abroad.

I also feel for Muslims who have a major campaign going on against them both here in the media and in their own countries with western bullets and bombs.

I really feel sorry for these people who are literally being crushed and double standards being so blatant.

We bomb a Muslim country and we are liberalising them.

They bomb us (albeit on a far, far smaller scale) and we call their faith 'evil' and call them terrorists.

Their countries are told by Nuclear powers that they may not develop nuclear weapons.

The only country which has used nuclear weapons against another country is the USA.

Yes, a small minority of Muslims take an extremists view - but that's hardly surprising when you consider what our western countries are doing to them.

I don't condone their behaviour any more than I condone our behaviour.

I must say as a non-Muslim I do really feel for them.

It'll take more than a protest or a few banners to make me dislike a race of people or a religion.



Bob.


PS. I hope that my view does not come across as extreme. I in no way condone any violence. Peace.

(Hoorah for 'free speach'.)

vava voom

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BOB having sat here for a while and listen to all these people cry like little girls/sound like ******* HITLER,......... I must say you got it spot on

...UHH OHH ARE THEY GOING TO START ON ME NOW...MAYBE IM A SUICIDE BOMBER

GROW THE **** UP

Aztec Performance Ltd

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Shot yourself in the foot.

Off go the BritishNaziParty for religious hatred and along with it its followers.