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................and not turn you a £25k+ loss overnight.

D

ex-webby

Fair play to you....... if YOU have the money and YOU wish to spend it like that, then tuck in sonny!

Regards,
Shaun.

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911 turbo wouldnt come close in terms of performance. More on par with a 350bhp Scoob.


Bob

Aztec Performance Ltd

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550-600bhp in a classic has the capability to be on par with a Macca F1, in terms of acceleration.

P20SPD

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Lol at you and Alan. I get the addrenalin rush, but often cant stop laughing, i dont know why, the sheer acceleration of these cars make me laugh uncontrolably.

I was only saying yesterday to Dave Blows, whilst driving a 400/400 sti 7, that i personally think people jumping from mid 300's to 550+ in one go is stupid. He agreed entirely, but he was only experiencing 400, coming from a 280ish P1.

Re Alan's comment of it biting you, i would say:-
The very first instant you lack attention or respect of what you are driving, it will most probably beat the cr4p out of you!

This level of car, becomes a whole new experience.

My 350 car, i could pretty much drive on or off the throttle in any manner, i cant drive a 550+ one in the same manner without taking big risks, and having the car airborne several times.

Steven

Ray_li

He's be ok.

I jumped from a 1.1L Metro to a MY00 without a problem

On a serious note. good luck with the project

HONDA_RVF400

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Yeah good luck dude....... from another P1 owner

Gutmann pug

and the reliability of a first of production TVR I would hazard .......

Of course if he spends the £250,000 that WRC teams do on cars, plus the R&D money, plus the full rebuild after every run then he might get 600 reliable BHP .....

Obviously it depends what you want to do with the car but come on guys, comparing it to a Zonda or Macca ........?

Surely an R500 would give the same kind of figures out of the box anyway?

Gary

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I think 330bhp is way to fast for crowded southern roads these days. I happen to agree with Davyboy in that the money is better spent on a proper car that won't lose huge chunks of money over night.

There was a car for sale a while ago that had had all the RCM treatment. The value was pitiful in comparison to the build cost

Have you spent money on the drivetrain and chassis as well - I bloody hope so

F

Aztec Performance Ltd

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Properly built they can be more reliable than you think.

Also factor the 'servicing' costs of supercars and the costs of the breakages on high powered scoobs dont seem too bad.

New_scooby_04

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Not as fast as me max'd Nova!!!

Having never driven a 600+ bhp car before, I have no idea.

I have, however, gone from 0-60 in 2.5 secs on a ride, and that level of acceleration makes you wince and feel slightly queasy....then laugh like a drain for about 30 mns after, so i'm guessing a 600bhp classic will have a similar effect.

Echo what's been said about not worring about what you could have had for the money you've put into the Scooby. If it's what you want and you have the money to do it, blomming good luck to you!! You'll certainly have a ultra rare car!! RCM are also exceptionally good at building mega power scoobies, so you're in good hands.

Do be careful though, a 220bhp scooby will spin all its 4 wheels, with the right conditions, so I'd hate to think what a 600bhp is capable of.

It's crazy, but wonderful at the same time.

NS04

scoobyboy1

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O.k 550-600bhp, might be to much for some people, My ideal Scooby would have 400bhp, with Big brakes and Perfect suspension.

I dont ask for much.

AlanG

It's quite a feeling yet you get it time and time again at this level (well i do anyway!)
When you up the power from a standard scoob you get a little insight into what it's like but that soon wears off and you want more, but in the region of 500, i beggar anyone to think the car has become slow and in need of more.

To add to Stevens wise comments, in my experience it isn't the acceleration or handling that catches you out, but the braking. There's been a few occasions where, despite being aware of my surroundings and of the speeds involved, i've still come up to a corner and left braking too late. So much so that you're really standing on the brakes to scrub off speed. You don't realise how fast you'd been travelling until you find it difficult to slow down for a corner

TopBanana

Stop criticising this guy's decision - it's his money.

P.S. Can I have a go?

Gutmann pug

Me thinks he posted the comment on here to provoke discussion and its certainly done that.

Personally I think its madness but then I havent got that kind of money to throw away.

If the car is going to be used as a promotional tool for a business or high speed testing then fair enough. As a road car using money from someones back pocket its screw loose material

You cant compare it to a supercar, its like saying a caterham is better than a carrera GT

New_scooby_04

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Look at it this way Gary, he'll NEVER have to entertain any discussions about how a french clatter box is faster than his scooby EVER again!!

Money well spent!

NS04

bigsinky

me sir

Tim W

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Before I embarked on my current engine build I decided to take a step back and see what else was out there for the sort of money I could reasonably afford; taking into account what I had tied up in the car, saved up for the build and could afford monthly on a loan/finance, basically about 35k.

I tried a few cars: Elise, Exige, VX220 Turbo, a 993 Carrera 2, 964RS and 964 Turbo 2, EV0 VII FQ330, 350Z and a Noble M12 GTO3. Not one really did anything for me, they were great cars, but not one gave me a bigger rush than my own Impreza, as it was! A rattly circa 350 brake UK classic. And none of them could match it's turn of speed, as one dealer I let drive it still remembers to this day

In the end I decided to crack on and build my new engine...that was over 2 years ago, I've still not finished...but I've also not speant enough yet to buy any of those cars. When it's finished it'll probably be only a 450 brake car, but that's a good thing, it means I'll still have something to do with it to make it better (I like the tinkering) and I'll also get a chance to build up to the 600 brake I'd really like to try

In the meantime I suspect I'll buy myself another car to play with too, 968 Club Sport springs to mind having sampled the delights of the 350Z but not being prepared to pay for one, oh and LHD for trips to tracks on the continent...

As to whether a 550 brake Impreza is 'better' than a true supercar...of course it is, in the eye of the beholder who wanted it! I was hooked on fast Imprezas the day I watched a lightly modified MY99 on road tyres running rings around a track preped 512TR on slicks at Donington, it was priceless...problem is nowadays the Impreza has an image problem, which it didn't have back in 1999

Gutmann pug

Thats what gansta said when he put 350bhp into his WR1 ....... Power doesnt mean speed you know. I reckon my 130BHP would give a 600bhp scoob alot to think about round a tight circuit anyday.

I remember as a kid watching racing at Thruxton. A big bhp car used to battle with a puny reliant kitten every month in the wendy wools classic series. David and Goliath

Adam M

don,t waste your money,

for much less you could buy my 550bhp 22B, and it will have the chassis to cope!

In my experience that kind of power is way too much, 350 of each is ideal and 400 bordering on insane but still usable and faster than pretty much anything on the road on four wheels.

With that power comes great lag and it makes for a slower more dangerous machine. The comments about value are good ones. You will feel like an idiot come resale time when you can effectively burn the cheque you are handing over.

do yourself a favour and buy one that has already been done and let someone else take the loss.

Gangsta Smurf

It was actually more than 350bhp! (just to make you feel better )

PMSL ... this is where the argument about driver ability comes in!

For example ... at Rally Day in Aug2004 Colin McRae lapped virtually every subaru and evo on the track in a 1.6litre C2.

Gutmann pug

and there was me thinking you didn't post anymore Gangsta happy days matey .......

Wise word s Adam M ........

Eckmcmann

to cut a long story short mate your forgetting one very important mod...an anchor your gonna need one!

Gangsta Smurf

On topic ... having driven a 550bhp car all I will say to you matey is go get some track time with a professional driver and learn how to control it when driving at speed or accelerating hard.

Although the car I drove wasn't turbo charged (Lamborghini Diablo) it will be similar in terms of experience. I **** myself to start with because you virtually do just hold onto the steering wheel and pray!

Over time you'll get used to it. Chris B (I'm sure he won't mind me mentioning it) has a 500bhp WR1 and he drives it so so so so so well. Instead of stamping on the pedal he feeds the turbo in gradually, he never approaches a corner too fast and definitely doesn't stamp on the gas whilst going through one. Might be worth having a chat with him because that is how you should drive your car when you get it. I also believe that RCM carried out all the work on his car so you could get in contact with him through them or via www.wr1oc.co.uk.

Regarding performance again I was sitting in the 500bhp WR1 with 4 other people at Bruntingthorpe and when Chris dialed in full power it made a heavily modified R33 Skyline look like it was going backwards - and that was 4up!!

Please tell me that part of your 25k+ upgrade is being spent on good brakes!!!!!!!!!!

Clarebabes

oops, rememebr to log out.

davyboy

Are you smoking crack?

I'd put my 300bhp 944 turbo up against a 350bhp Subaru.

Dave

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Obviously you need to be at Bruntingthorpe before you can dial all the power in Cant see the point in it myself.

Gary

TopBanana

No fair - your 944 is lighter than a 996tt and only rwd so less drivetrain loss!

j900ase

Good on ya mate go for it, so what if you buy a Porsche ,Tvr etc. Who cares so can anybody with enough money, and it will be exactly the same as every other production made performance car.

You will have something very special, very fast and very unique, and when those run of the mill super rich, super cars come up the road giving it the look at my wallet look how fast i am, you will destroy them completly, with just another Subaru.

Your doing exactly what i intend to do with my new age, currantly 390,380 yes its fast, but you do get used to it. Bring on 500/600bhp and let the never ending fun begin.

I have driven 500bhp cars and spent my life on superbikes, one thing for sure is you can never have enough power, where and when you use it is another thing.

If too much power was an issue then there would be no new 1000cc bikes every year, because they had to much power to use all the time 15 years ago.

Spend your money mate, be one of the lucky few who can and will do it, but most of all ENJOY.

Hope to be in your elite club soon.

Jase.

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what will it feel like?

probably the best and worst thing you've ever done in your life, both at the same time! Good luck with it