OllyK

Use the eyes to look for the smiley Luke!!

OllyK

Time to connect the crematoria up to the national grid and ban burials if you ask me

_RIP_

Well OK then, sure Imlach, perhaps I've not looked as closely at branded V tescos fish fingers as some.

But when exactly did I imply that I was having difficulty atm? I'm still drawing a wage, it's just that the future isn’t quite so rosy for my family now. Perhaps my comments were metaphorical, but what’s the difference to my situation right now to what might be just round the corner for many? My comments stand for the foreseeable future.

So, regarding your opinion as amateur “psychologist”, why is my situation not “quite like that then"? Whatever “that” might be.

Trust me, I think I could tell you more about yourself than you know about me.

imlach

Go on then. I'll let you know how close you get. Remember, I'm an internet persona

_RIP_

OK, you're a jock

Oh, and you have to fire back in SN "psychologist" mode

_RIP_

And of course taking any longer that two minutes between relpies (seeing as we're up and about) is a default

Next

_RIP_

Useless

1 - 0 to me.

You ride a bike.

dsmith

Right. I have solved the important Dilemna on this thread.

The game was "Great Britain Ltd" and it is on that BBC site under "simon hessel" software.

http://www.beebgames.com/games.php?company=128

And it runs.

_RIP_

You stay in the capital.

2 - 0

_RIP_

Stop grubbing about for old posts man

OK, you used to have a gas guzzling scooby in the drive, but now like a reformed smoker you preach green issues to the rest of us!!!

3 - 0 and too easy

imlach

DSmith - that's it!!! Hooray!!

_RIP_ : you've cottoned on to the internet persona You obviously believe everything you read on SN

_RIP_

lol, 4 - 0 to me for Imlachs own goal

You're a blonde himbo

5 - 0 to me

_RIP_

Should I shut up before I lift your kilt?

Being me I'll settle for a draw

imlach

Hmm...still not convinced...

_RIP_

They call you wunkle wickey

6 - 0

imlach

I give up

_RIP_

I dribble with the best

imlach

Anyway, back on topic.....that Great Britain Ltd game is a MUST for those who think being the chancellor is an easy job (no matter which party).

Try it, and see how well you keep inflation etc under control while keeping the electorate happy

_RIP_

http://www.positech.co.uk/democracy/

Demo available for DL

dsmith

Well - I seem to get riots at the drop of a hat - Cant find the functions to remove all the important stuff from Inflation, steal from pension funds, annouce the same spending 3 times, create a massive number of public sector jobs or just plain lie - so I cant get it to simulate gordon brown's efforts .....

_RIP_

Hack the code, I'm sure that's realistic now-a-days

SD

Right! My tuppence worth. I work for a gas company, as a division of a well known oil company. A household name in fact, but not Centrica (né British Gas) and this price rise has been coming for years now. The problem is many fold. As has been partly reported in the media today there are many European governments who still own large parts of their national gas industries, and have been controlling supply delecately in order to keep prices lower for their countries. We, of course, have a deregulated gas industry and as such it isn't a level playing field across Europe. It's difficult to explain, and other's in the press have done so much better than I.

Secondly, I agree that tax free fuel on flights has helped drive up energy costs. Quite simply, it's supply and demand at work. The cost of flying in real terms has fallen enormously over the last 10-15 years, which is partly why Wayne and Waynetta can take 2 holidays a year in Costa el Cheapo when they previously wouldn't have been able to. This extra demand for energy pushes the price up in the global market. Yes, I know, before some smart alec comes on and says about avgas being different to petrol etc etc, but at the of the day it's all part of a similar picture.

Oh and 'Jim'. I hope you land back on your feet soon. I've been there before, although luckily was commitment free at the time. I can't imagine how I'd provide for my family if it happened to me now... All the best!

Simon

_RIP_

From the horses mouth then, eh fathead, I mean flathead, em sorry cap

_RIP_

Cheers m8, glad to know we still have sentient and caring human life on the planet

Flatcapdriver

Sorry, but I'm calling you on this one because at best it's misleading and at worst, rubbish. We already tax aviation fuels to the tune of 27p per litre and given that the UK has the largest demand in Europe for air travel combined with a healthy and robust GA industry which consume high levels of both AVGAS and JET A1, how does this contribute to high energy costs in the domestic market? We consume around 22 million tonnes of petrol, 15 million tonnes of diesel and 10 million tonnes of aviation fuel so comparitively it adds little to our energy costs.

The environmental impact argument is also hollow, given that the aviation industry only contributes around 3% of global carbon emissions so that is a non-starter and conveniently forgets the beneficial social impact that aviation brings together with god only knows how much revenue from taxation.

I've explained in other posts why we have a supply crunch in the UK, with correspondingly higher gas costs but I think on that occasion others were too busy blaming the Government to bother availing themselves of the facts.

It comes back to the original point I made, that unless we are prepared to reduce our energy consumption then it's pointless blaming everyone/thing else when we are not prepared to do something to limit our consumption either domestically, corporately or something simple such as driving more fuel efficient cars.

_RIP_

Soon to produce a quarter of all emissions? Seems a pretty fcucked up industry to me. How many millions of people will need to turn off a light bulb to sort that one out?

Flatcapdriver

A lot less than the amount of lightbulbs that will need to be switched off, if we continue our over reliance on cars and lorries for transportation.

So now you're switching your argument to the environment given that you cannot prove how increasing the tax burden on aviation will reduce domestic energy costs?

Brit_in_Japan

There is increasing concern about the effects of "high altitude" carbon emissions. What comes out of a car exhaust at sea level and what comes out of an aircraft engine at 40,000ft has different effects on the environment. And whilst the CO2 footprint per passenger per kilometer doesn't look too bad, the large distances covered and the increasing passenger numbers and flights mean there is a real environmental concern about aviation.

As for social benefit, I think you are overstating it somewhat. Don't get me wrong, I love seeing the world and experiencing new cultures. But what real "social benefit" is there from going to Prague or Vilnius for a weekend's booze up instead of somewhere closer to home? Much of the increase in air travel has been as a result of the budget airlines cutting the costs and creating more demand.

Brendan Hughes

Less chance of low-paid immigrants then wanting to come and live in the UK?

farmer1

RIP who the **** are you, get a grip on life and take your arguements else where.