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11 February 2006 | 10:49 AM
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Cut to the chase forget all the confusion buy my 2004 54 reg WRX STI type UK 263bhp std and unmolested apart from a warranty friendly and wonderful sounding Prodrive rear box. The cars on ebay at £15k or offers from here.
trouble is no one on here has the sense to buy private from an honest fellow scooby net bloke
everyone is just so determined to get ripped off by dealers!!
buy mine its a snip a totaly geniune car and full subaru warranty until september 07
whats the problem???
paul.hotholloway@virgin.net
trouble is no one on here has the sense to buy private from an honest fellow scooby net bloke
everyone is just so determined to get ripped off by dealers!!
buy mine its a snip a totaly geniune car and full subaru warranty until september 07
whats the problem???
paul.hotholloway@virgin.net
11 February 2006 | 10:55 AM
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From: Bournemouth UK XBOX 360 GAMERTAG : crazyman1979
Right,
just got back from my test drive, have been all over the car with a mate.
It HAS a prodrive certificate.
It HAS prodrive on the spoiler and exhaust.
It HAS NOT got blue hoses they are red.
It DOES pull like a bloddy train from 2 1/2 thousand revs.
It DOES NOT come with any warranty what so ever
Undecided....
just got back from my test drive, have been all over the car with a mate.
It HAS a prodrive certificate.
It HAS prodrive on the spoiler and exhaust.
It HAS NOT got blue hoses they are red.
It DOES pull like a bloddy train from 2 1/2 thousand revs.
It DOES NOT come with any warranty what so ever
Undecided....
11 February 2006 | 11:10 AM
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From: "Engineering Perfection in Essex"
Originally Posted by swtmerce
Sorry there, I didn't see the other photos! But still the front end is wrong so could be crashed and repaired - but wrongly!
the prodrive bumper is £650 approx!!!
11 February 2006 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by frayz
MTR my eyes are fine, where did i say that yours was NOT a prodrive?
I was replying to the thread, actually refering to the car posted in reply NO#5
The silver 03 car in question that is NOT wearing the prodrive grille or bumper!!
I was replying to the thread, actually refering to the car posted in reply NO#5
The silver 03 car in question that is NOT wearing the prodrive grille or bumper!!
My apologies.
But the post at NO#5 ASKS if that car is a Prodrive, it doesn't state that it is.
My post STATES that my car is a Prodrive.
Your post said
Originally Posted by frayz
that pic posted of the supposed prodrive isnt wearing the prodrive bumper or grille
Perhaps if you had been a little clearer in your response the confusion wouldn't have occured.
If Crazyman 1979 was mis-led also he wouldn't know what a Prodrive version really looks like, and that is what he is trying to find out.
This is his response immediately after you posted your response to me.
Originally Posted by crazyman1979
Hey this is no **** take, but now im totally confused.
Am i lookiing for red or blue hoses, grills or no grills?
Another stupid question, what does the MY mean in MY02 etc...
cheers
Am i lookiing for red or blue hoses, grills or no grills?
Another stupid question, what does the MY mean in MY02 etc...
cheers
MTR
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11 February 2006 | 11:15 AM
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From: "Engineering Perfection in Essex"
^^^ No worries dude, i can see my reply was not as clear as maybe it could have been.
Crazyman, both cars pictured, the bleu one and black one are genuine prodrive models with the correct body parts etc.
The silverone youre looking at may be a prodrive model but it is NOT wearing the genuine bumper or grill as is fitted to the blue and black cars.
hope that clears a few things up.
Crazyman, both cars pictured, the bleu one and black one are genuine prodrive models with the correct body parts etc.
The silverone youre looking at may be a prodrive model but it is NOT wearing the genuine bumper or grill as is fitted to the blue and black cars.
hope that clears a few things up.
11 February 2006 | 11:16 AM
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From: Bournemouth UK XBOX 360 GAMERTAG : crazyman1979
Okay well im fairly convinced it is a PPP now since it has the certificate and i would deffo phone up prodrive and check if i do buy it.
What concerns me now is the comments on crash repair and that is comes with no warranty, is this normal not to even get a 3 month warranty?
What concerns me now is the comments on crash repair and that is comes with no warranty, is this normal not to even get a 3 month warranty?
11 February 2006 | 11:17 AM
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From: Bournemouth UK XBOX 360 GAMERTAG : crazyman1979
Originally Posted by frayz
^^^ No worries dude, i can see my reply was not as clear as maybe it could have been.
Crazyman, both cars pictured, the bleu one and black one are genuine prodrive models with the correct body parts etc.
The silverone youre looking at may be a prodrive model but it is NOT wearing the genuine bumper or grill as is fitted to the blue and black cars.
hope that clears a few things up.
Crazyman, both cars pictured, the bleu one and black one are genuine prodrive models with the correct body parts etc.
The silverone youre looking at may be a prodrive model but it is NOT wearing the genuine bumper or grill as is fitted to the blue and black cars.
hope that clears a few things up.
11 February 2006 | 11:18 AM
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From: "Engineering Perfection in Essex"
Id do some more homework about the cars, decide exactly what you want and the shop for one!!
I turned down a 330bhp blue version of my car for a standard black one of which i will end up tuning to 330bhp+
lol
I turned down a 330bhp blue version of my car for a standard black one of which i will end up tuning to 330bhp+
lol
11 February 2006 | 11:19 AM
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I agree with Wide. There are plenty of cars and plenty of bargains to be had. I bought my WRX at the end of December thinking I got a bargain only to find that there were plenty of other cars out there for the same price.
11 February 2006 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by crazyman1979
So could it be a non prodrive model but still have the PPP (305 ps) ?
stands for prodrive performance pack
when fitted,
wrx goes from 225bhp ish to 265bhpish
sti goes from 265bhp ish to 305bhp ish
11 February 2006 | 11:23 AM
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From: Bournemouth UK XBOX 360 GAMERTAG : crazyman1979
Right i think i have got it now.
It is not an sti prodrive but it is an STI PPP.
thats where i was confused i thought Prodrive is a prodrive but i guess thats not the case.
Anyone know of any black STI Prodrive PPP for sale, i think thats exactly what i want....
cheers
It is not an sti prodrive but it is an STI PPP.
thats where i was confused i thought Prodrive is a prodrive but i guess thats not the case.
Anyone know of any black STI Prodrive PPP for sale, i think thats exactly what i want....
cheers
11 February 2006 | 12:38 PM
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No Warranty??
No Salie!!
It's a dealer isn't it?
If they want to sell it as seen it WAY too expensive and really questionable!
There are hundreds about, people just can't sell them .......
NEVER buy the first one you see - each one you see will show that the last one you wanted isn't as good as the one you're looking at - why? well, you become so 'tuned in' that you can spot a bad one within seconds just by the look of it.
A dealer can walk around a car, state the mileage without looking and tell you what its worth without opening the door or running the engine - that comes with experience ....... you can almost do the same thing if you look at enough of them.
Good luck!
Pete
No Salie!!
It's a dealer isn't it?
If they want to sell it as seen it WAY too expensive and really questionable!
There are hundreds about, people just can't sell them .......
NEVER buy the first one you see - each one you see will show that the last one you wanted isn't as good as the one you're looking at - why? well, you become so 'tuned in' that you can spot a bad one within seconds just by the look of it.
A dealer can walk around a car, state the mileage without looking and tell you what its worth without opening the door or running the engine - that comes with experience ....... you can almost do the same thing if you look at enough of them.
Good luck!
Pete
11 February 2006 | 03:20 PM
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From: Bournemouth UK XBOX 360 GAMERTAG : crazyman1979
Pete
the guy said it was not normal to offer a waranty on performance cars, this is not a subaru dealer just a car dealer, would you say that this is normal or should i be looking for a warranty from any dealer?
Im on the fence about weather to buy it, the dealer reckons if i get the same from a subaru dealer with a warrany it would be 15-16k so im getting a good deal....
cheers
the guy said it was not normal to offer a waranty on performance cars, this is not a subaru dealer just a car dealer, would you say that this is normal or should i be looking for a warranty from any dealer?
Im on the fence about weather to buy it, the dealer reckons if i get the same from a subaru dealer with a warrany it would be 15-16k so im getting a good deal....
cheers
11 February 2006 | 03:23 PM
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Hes talking **** mate, steer clear.!!!!
Whats the point of getting one from a dealer if he wont give you a warranty?
Buy one private and get a lot more for your money!!!
Whats the point of getting one from a dealer if he wont give you a warranty?
Buy one private and get a lot more for your money!!!
11 February 2006 | 03:24 PM
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From: Bournemouth UK XBOX 360 GAMERTAG : crazyman1979
Okay just got my quote from greenlight for the following.
SUBARU MY02 IMPREZA WRX STI PRODRIVE TYPE UK PPP
6yrs NCD 26 No points
£857
That sounds waaay to cheap to me.
SUBARU MY02 IMPREZA WRX STI PRODRIVE TYPE UK PPP
6yrs NCD 26 No points
£857
That sounds waaay to cheap to me.
11 February 2006 | 03:26 PM
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sound about right to me
Steer clear of that silver one though mate, geezer sounds like a right nosher.
There are loads of better ones for less money!!
Steer clear of that silver one though mate, geezer sounds like a right nosher.
There are loads of better ones for less money!!
11 February 2006 | 03:40 PM
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From: Bournemouth UK XBOX 360 GAMERTAG : crazyman1979
Show me where mate i cant find one???
Looking for an STI with PPP (prefer non bug eye) prefer in black,for about 14k max with a warranty, not too bothered if i have to get slightly higher miles....
almost thinking of giving up the search and buying an cupra R.
cheers
Looking for an STI with PPP (prefer non bug eye) prefer in black,for about 14k max with a warranty, not too bothered if i have to get slightly higher miles....
almost thinking of giving up the search and buying an cupra R.
cheers
11 February 2006 | 04:14 PM
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The car in the picture looks like an STI, but it is not an STI Prodrive. Many sellers wrongly describe cars fitted with ppp as STI Prodrive's. As said earlier the Prodrive model has a different front bumper and spotlight covers, a different front grille, different sideskirts ,high level rear spoiler rather than the standard WRX one and they have blue dials rather than black.
I suspect the car you are looking at is an STI fitted with the Prodrive Performance Pack, the PPP should have a certificate from Prodrive or you should at least expect a receipt for it.
Be careful, the car may just be a late registered model but 03 reg Bugeyes are few and far between.
I suspect the car you are looking at is an STI fitted with the Prodrive Performance Pack, the PPP should have a certificate from Prodrive or you should at least expect a receipt for it.
Be careful, the car may just be a late registered model but 03 reg Bugeyes are few and far between.
11 February 2006 | 04:18 PM
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From: A Yorkshireman living in Lancashire, Recruiting for the War of the Roses part deux!
Just a thought but have you looked at www.subaru.co.uk ? Click on the approved cars section and you can look at all the scoobys at the dealers nationwide.
Don't rush into buying the first one you see ! That silver one is gonna come back and bite you belive me. There is no reason for a dealer not to offer you a warranty unless he knows that something is not quite right about it !
Simpson
Don't rush into buying the first one you see ! That silver one is gonna come back and bite you belive me. There is no reason for a dealer not to offer you a warranty unless he knows that something is not quite right about it !
Simpson
11 February 2006 | 06:50 PM
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From: Bournemouth UK XBOX 360 GAMERTAG : crazyman1979
Thanks all i think you have saved me from making a huge mistake.
Im forgetting that one and going to wait till the right one comes along, problem is its doing my head in seeing other scoobs and not having mine.
Im forgetting that one and going to wait till the right one comes along, problem is its doing my head in seeing other scoobs and not having mine.
11 February 2006 | 07:02 PM
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Act in haste and repent in leisure!!
Never was a truer word spoken when it comes to Subaru Imprezas!!
Many have been thrashed, modified and abused ..........
The one you want is the UK one owner car with FULL Service History AND a Warranty if its a dealer ............ £100's off if its private!
Pete
Never was a truer word spoken when it comes to Subaru Imprezas!!
Many have been thrashed, modified and abused ..........
The one you want is the UK one owner car with FULL Service History AND a Warranty if its a dealer ............ £100's off if its private!
Pete
11 February 2006 | 07:15 PM
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Name & Shame the dealer who was selling it so others know to avoid them !
Any dealer who states this 'no warranty on performance cars' BS knows something about the car that the buyer doesnt.
Even small backstreet garages ( if they are worth their salt ) will give a 3 month warranty on used cars - any garage that doesnt have enough faith in its stock to do this should avoided in my book.
If I was spending £15K on any car from a dealer, I'd expect at least a 6 month warranty as a matter of course, and preferably 12 months - there is no way I'd take a gamble and just hope it isnt going to be knackered.
Any dealer who states this 'no warranty on performance cars' BS knows something about the car that the buyer doesnt.
Even small backstreet garages ( if they are worth their salt ) will give a 3 month warranty on used cars - any garage that doesnt have enough faith in its stock to do this should avoided in my book.
If I was spending £15K on any car from a dealer, I'd expect at least a 6 month warranty as a matter of course, and preferably 12 months - there is no way I'd take a gamble and just hope it isnt going to be knackered.
11 February 2006 | 07:21 PM
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