deano555

Well I think they have adjusted to it pretty well in Ireland.
I'm all for the ban, its great news and i'm sure the pubs and bars will attract a few more none smoking customers, me included.
Its about time it was banned on work premises aswell, it really p1sses me off when the smokers at work are aloud to stand about outside having *** breaks in addition to statutory breaks. Ive often wanted to down tools and go and stand outside for five minutes every other hour but I reckon something minght get said.

douglasb

I've got no idea about the penalties for Maltese publicans that ignore the law, but on visits to Ireland I've noticed that potential fines of €5000 and losing their licence means that publicans enforce the law pretty rigidly. They even provide heaters outside so that addicts don't have to freeze their nuts off in the middle of July when there is a gale blowing off the Atlantic.

Ken 275

I speak as a smoker myself but I believe the ban to be a positive move.

It's going to take place here in Ecosse shortly and it should be interesting to see the News stories when it is enforced.

One benefit of it in New York is that diners who nip out for a puff after their meal can now do a runner without paying for it.

(Mental note taken).

K.

popeye

Can you actually pinpoint where in any UK statue book, it states that standing in a public place and polluting the atmosphere is a "civil liberty"? Where is this list of "civil liberites" that you keep chucking your teddy about?

TopBanana

Yeah well I guess you could if you wanted to!

Taff107

FFS, the only thing I am concerned with is the fact that by not allowing to smoke in Pubs etc, there is going to massive rise in people giving up ****, which means less people buying them, which means a lot less revenue for the government.
How will they make that up, I wonder................

TopBanana

Yeah - what a load of b4stards!

douglasb

I don't know.

But what if smokers still continue to smoke as much as at present but choose/are forced to do it at home? If they don't go to pubs to smoke but still smoke as much as they did previously then the amount of smoking tax raised is the same.

Should they also choose to drink at home rather than going to the pub then the pub will lose business (and may go out of business), but the Government will still take the tax from the booze bought in the offie.

2000TLondon

Would you consider you being able to drive your car a civil liberty?

STi wanna Subaru

iTrader: (1)

Great News! Smoking should be make totoally illegal if we already ban weed, coke and pills.... lets all have no limits on drugs and get high!!

Oh sorry. No smoking is cool and doesn't kill you so it's Ok. I love the smell as well. MMMMMmmmmm tar!

OzzyWRX

Welcome to the 'cleaner and healthier' 21st century Britain!

About time it was banned, I was over there last year and couldn't believe you could smoke in a restaurant, or anywhere else that food is served.

popeye

I need to be tested and obtain a licence to do that. There are govt departments devoted to maintaining roads and taxing cars, so clearly, it is a civil liberty.

DanTheMan

Cig smoke makes me feel sick so I'm looking forward to going out with my mates and enjoying a night out instead of feeling rough & dodging smoke

OllyK

Please show me in the statute book where it says you can go to the toilet, if you can't find it, please stop doing so.

Scoobychick

iTrader: (1)

The smokers who harp on about their civil liberties being removed need to appreciate that when you're a smoker yourself you don't realise how bad it smells, I used to smoke heavily and had no idea it smelt so bad so consequently used to get really angry with the anti-smoking brigade. It was only when I gave up five years ago that I realised how truly awful it really smells and, as a result have spent the last five years feeling extremely guilty for all the smoke I've blown in other peoples faces and all the evenings out I've ruined for others with my smoke. I can't tolerate the smell of smoke at all now so I had to stop going to pubs and bars which pissed me off enormously. I'm really pleased about the ban and am really, really looking forward to going out again and enjoying a smoke free environment. I guess I'm a typical self righteous reformed smoker and have absolutely no sympathy with anyone who still smokes, my reasoning being that if I can give up after 22 years of committed heavy smoking anyone can.

scoobynutta555

It's a total mess what the government have done. Originally they were going to ban smoking in pubs serving food, as per their manifesto. Several U-turns and a fear of being defeated in the commons meant a free vote and IMHO draconian laws being passed.

I've been to Ireland many times in the past few years, and pubs may have adapted well, but consumers have adapted to not going to places where smoking facilities are not provided, and not even going to pubs at all. Mates over there who do not smoke complain a lot about the ban there, as when you go out in a group a few people are always missing due to being outside smoking.

One of the things I liked about this country upon returning from abroad was it's relative small "freedoms" like smoking with a pint. Something else that's been taken away from the people by the government. It simply is amazing what has happened in this country in the past 7 years. From being a Labour supporter previously, I'm glad to say that they can truely **** off now with this growing nanny state and culture that they have allowed/pushed.

Whats next? Why have turbocharged decatted sports cars rumbling around causing noise, pollution and potential to smash speed limits, lets ban these cars and everyone can drive nice new 1.0 Micras. Enjoy a few beers on a night out? Due to propensity of violence, liver disease and public order offences, lets ban pubs and clubs.

The point being, where does it end? The people obviously crowing about the ban here on this tread will be crying into their enforced alcohol free pint tomorrow.

GrahamG

I didn't really care about the outcome. Smoking or not. but it will be bloody nice when you come home from the pub and not stinking of ****!

Does anyone know if this means non smoking in Clubs?

G.

SiPie

As per usual, Ireland and Scotland have the foresight and England eventually catches on

PS Great news

STi wanna Subaru

iTrader: (1)

makes me laugh when people say everybody will end up stood where all the smokers are outside. Why? Are smokers the people we all want to talk to? They are drug addicts and should be treated as such. Let them go outside for their hit and I'll chat to the people who don't need drugs to get them through the day.

OllyK

I'm a non-smoker so stick that in your pipe and smoke it

Bubba po

I was a full-on smoker for years. I've passed through the live-and-let live bit but now I get irritated when some selfish old bag or other species of numpty is waving their *** about in my face, oblivious to my discomfort. And another thing - my little lad is a musician and would like to take part in some of the evening jamming sessions that some local pubs have, but he can't because he can't stand the smoke. Nor should he have to, IMO.

OllyK

The clue is in "total ban on smoking in all enclosed public places" - pubs, clubs, private members clubs etc all affected.

Nice to see the members club that the health secretary is a member of have revoked her membership as a result of her vote

scoobynutta555

When he jumps up to play his instrument he may have no audience to play to, nor indeed a local pub at all.

GrahamG

Thats great new's for your Boy! Can't have smoke stand in the way of music!

scoobynutta555

Excellent, was discussing that last night, over a pint and a few ciggs Was hoping they would kick the lying two faced ugly bint out. The chairman (yes chairman, not the ridiculous term "chair") was livid when they interviewd him live on TV.

SJ_Skyline

See how your MP voted

walkpau873

As a smoker and pub user, i cant decide whether the ban is a good thing or not.

I think i will still go out to pubs, if not, you cut yourself off from your social life, will have to pop outside for a quick drag every now and again, but thats not a problem. It will cut my smoking down, so thats a good thing, it might even help me give up, which would be even better.

Most resteraunts you cant smoke in anyway, so thats not a problem. Most of our family and friends DONT smoke, so we are the odd ones out. But will it make me drink more, if i havent got a *** in my hand i bet i drink faster, that may sound stupid but its a fact. Smokers need something to do with their hands.

On the other hand.....

Ill never go to another pub again, if i cant go and have a pint and a ciggy with my friends, well stuff them. I`ll use my bar at home more and invite people round. I dont care where they sit me in the pub,why dont they have smoke rooms like they did 50 years ago, it was called a bar i beleive, and then have the lounge smoke free.

Our goverment stinks at the moment, they love all the revenue they receive from the tax on ****, and then say we cant smoke on our valuable friday or saturday night, yes i know that we have to pay for hospitals to put us right when we are dieing from cancer- well if thats the case, use the money for that purpose and build some more super hospitals!!! Oh and a thought for the poor cigarette vending companies, no machine selling **** in pubs= lots of people out of work. Oh and to top it all off, some scum bag burgler or rapist or murderer can still smoke in prison, what a load of crap!

Rant over.....

Paul

OllyK

There's a surprise:
Judy Mallaber (Amber Valley) - good little NL puppet that she is

Wurzel

iTrader: (1)

The smokers who harp on about their civil liberties being removed need to appreciate that they are infact removing the civil liberties of the non smoker to a smoke free environment. Why is it smokers have civil liberties but non smokers don't?

It only takes one smoker in a room to ruin the environment for non smokers, a room full of smokers won't even notice if there is one non smoker in there or not.

Personally I am chuffed with the ban, the only downside is I am not there to appreciate it. I am stuck in stinky Germany where they will never in a million years bann smoking.

OllyK

Since when was it mandatory to have a smoker in every room? How long has it been banned to provide non-smoking facilities in pubs and restaurants?