No threads about Scooby v Vectra V EVO
#91
and there was me thinking the VXR had done well for itself, competing at this level, keeping up, leading the pack on occasion, being praised by the journo's. But actually they had the wrong people driving the cars and the awd is still miles better
Had me worried there for a bit
Had me worried there for a bit
#92
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Sunny Aberdeen
Posts: 700
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
and there was me thinking the VXR had done well for itself, competing at this level, keeping up, leading the pack on occasion, being praised by the journo's. But actually they had the wrong people driving the cars and the awd is still miles better
Had me worried there for a bit
Had me worried there for a bit
#93
An interloper is matching their every move ........ Incredibly - no scrub that - shockingly, that car has a Vauxhall badge on its nose. The Vectra VXR is splitting the two hardest most out rageous rally wannabes right down the middle and dispite significant horsepower advantages, not to mention the benefit of two extra driven wheels each, there's nothing they can do about it ......
I lead in the VXR and it quickly becomes clear that the Vectra has pace and composure to spare.
through very quick corners the STi looks like its struggling to keep in touch
The Vectra looks suberb from the following Subaru
In terms of raw speed the VXR is far from out classed ........
Love them comments on the Vectra
I lead in the VXR and it quickly becomes clear that the Vectra has pace and composure to spare.
through very quick corners the STi looks like its struggling to keep in touch
The Vectra looks suberb from the following Subaru
In terms of raw speed the VXR is far from out classed ........
Love them comments on the Vectra
#94
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Sunny Aberdeen
Posts: 700
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
An interloper is matching their every move ........ Incredibly - no scrub that - shockingly, that car has a Vauxhall badge on its nose. The Vectra VXR is splitting the two hardest most out rageous rally wannabes right down the middle and dispite significant horsepower advantages, not to mention the benefit of two extra driven wheels each, there's nothing they can do about it ......
I lead in the VXR and it quickly becomes clear that the Vectra has pace and composure to spare.
through very quick corners the STi looks like its struggling to keep in touch
The Vectra looks suberb from the following Subaru
In terms of raw speed the VXR is far from out classed ........
Love them comments on the Vectra
I lead in the VXR and it quickly becomes clear that the Vectra has pace and composure to spare.
through very quick corners the STi looks like its struggling to keep in touch
The Vectra looks suberb from the following Subaru
In terms of raw speed the VXR is far from out classed ........
Love them comments on the Vectra
#95
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: ...sat at work, bored out of my head !!
Posts: 163
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
An interloper is matching their every move ........ Incredibly - no scrub that - shockingly, that car has a Vauxhall badge on its nose. The Vectra VXR is splitting the two hardest most out rageous rally wannabes right down the middle and dispite significant horsepower advantages, not to mention the benefit of two extra driven wheels each, there's nothing they can do about it ......
I lead in the VXR and it quickly becomes clear that the Vectra has pace and composure to spare.
through very quick corners the STi looks like its struggling to keep in touch
The Vectra looks suberb from the following Subaru
In terms of raw speed the VXR is far from out classed ........
Love them comments on the Vectra
I lead in the VXR and it quickly becomes clear that the Vectra has pace and composure to spare.
through very quick corners the STi looks like its struggling to keep in touch
The Vectra looks suberb from the following Subaru
In terms of raw speed the VXR is far from out classed ........
Love them comments on the Vectra
#98
What I struggle to understand are the people on here that are so ready to talk down Subaru or are glad that something else is getting close to beating it.
You are really sad and showing that you have no lives. Seriously, get a grip and find a hobby or site that you are actually interested in and provide a positive contribution.
You are really sad and showing that you have no lives. Seriously, get a grip and find a hobby or site that you are actually interested in and provide a positive contribution.
#99
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: A powerslide near you
Posts: 10,261
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
What I struggle to understand is people who don't understand irony
You seem to dismiss the VSR on badge hence your comment "let's get real - it's a vauxhall" as to imply that it can't get over it's image. I was merely pointing out that the image of subaru was always as a farmers car. the impreza turbo only really came out in the last 10 years or so. If you can't get over Vauxhalls image, why should anyone get over Subarus one? complete double standards.
Ultimately, if a car is good, a car is good full stop. The VXR, according to evo at least, is a good car, full stop.
You seem to dismiss the VSR on badge hence your comment "let's get real - it's a vauxhall" as to imply that it can't get over it's image. I was merely pointing out that the image of subaru was always as a farmers car. the impreza turbo only really came out in the last 10 years or so. If you can't get over Vauxhalls image, why should anyone get over Subarus one? complete double standards.
Ultimately, if a car is good, a car is good full stop. The VXR, according to evo at least, is a good car, full stop.
#100
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: ...sat at work, bored out of my head !!
Posts: 163
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
What I struggle to understand are the people on here that are so ready to talk down Subaru or are glad that something else is getting close to beating it.
You are really sad and showing that you have no lives. Seriously, get a grip and find a hobby or site that you are actually interested in and provide a positive contribution.
You are really sad and showing that you have no lives. Seriously, get a grip and find a hobby or site that you are actually interested in and provide a positive contribution.
No-one is talking down Subaru at all (they should as they are crap, look at the Justy, thats crap, so all Subaru's are - your logic btw) the only reason this thread is here is because there was an STi in the group. Who won or lost is irrelevant, the key here is that so-called crap Vauxhalls (i.e. ******** that think cars are crap due to something released 30 years ago) are now competing with cars seemingly out of their league.
So get your head out of your ****
#102
Originally Posted by Spankathon
What a absolute *** you are !!!!
No-one is talking down Subaru at all (they should as they are crap, look at the Justy, thats crap, so all Subaru's are - your logic btw) the only reason this thread is here is because there was an STi in the group. Who won or lost is irrelevant, the key here is that so-called crap Vauxhalls (i.e. ******** that think cars are crap due to something released 30 years ago) are now competing with cars seemingly out of their league.
So get your head out of your ****
No-one is talking down Subaru at all (they should as they are crap, look at the Justy, thats crap, so all Subaru's are - your logic btw) the only reason this thread is here is because there was an STi in the group. Who won or lost is irrelevant, the key here is that so-called crap Vauxhalls (i.e. ******** that think cars are crap due to something released 30 years ago) are now competing with cars seemingly out of their league.
So get your head out of your ****
#103
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: ...sat at work, bored out of my head !!
Posts: 163
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
You are really sad and showing that you have no lives. Seriously, get a grip and find a hobby or site that you are actually interested in and provide a positive contribution.
What a clever response.
#104
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: A powerslide near you
Posts: 10,261
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
Only in the UK, not sure where that image comes from though.
#105
Moderator
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: The Terry Crews of moderation. P P P P P P POWER!!
Posts: 18,687
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Vauxhall does well in TOCA doesn't it. Maybe we shouldn't be surprised that they've finally upped their game as much as being surprised that it's taken them so damn long!!
Over to you Ford- the Mondeo ST220 will need to improve!!
Ns04
Over to you Ford- the Mondeo ST220 will need to improve!!
Ns04
#106
Surely the track times show it all. AWD vehicles were miles ahead. Following another car and 'keeping up' is a pretty broad way of measuring performance. Get the stopwatch out, time cars - obvious result. A good few seconds difference (about 5).
#107
Originally Posted by turbodan
Surely the track times show it all. AWD vehicles were miles ahead. Following another car and 'keeping up' is a pretty broad way of measuring performance. Get the stopwatch out, time cars - obvious result. A good few seconds difference (about 5).
Its actually the response I was looking for though as everytime the EVO spanks the scoob on the track the comment is that back roads are where its at not the track. A Vauxhall does well in that area and all of a sudden the track means everything .....
Now thats double standards
Fair play Vauxhall, finally getting your act together.
Gary
#108
Moderator
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: The Terry Crews of moderation. P P P P P P POWER!!
Posts: 18,687
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
The only thing the track times showed was that when you throw caution to the wind and drive absolutley on the edge the Scoob and EVO were quicker. Do you do that on a sunday afternoon jont? I dont think so .....
Its actually the response I was looking for though as everytime the EVO spanks the scoob on the track the comment is that back roads are where its at not the track. A Vauxhall does well in that area and all of a sudden the track means everything .....
Now thats double standards
Fair play Vauxhall, finally getting your act together.
Gary
Its actually the response I was looking for though as everytime the EVO spanks the scoob on the track the comment is that back roads are where its at not the track. A Vauxhall does well in that area and all of a sudden the track means everything .....
Now thats double standards
Fair play Vauxhall, finally getting your act together.
Gary
A newbie on here once remrked that he wondered what would happen if he went over to Porsche and srarted baiting them about a Spec C being able to keep a GT3 honest (which it will acording to EVO- the same mag that conducted the test you refer to, or a P1 being able to keep a Ferarri 550 in its sights..........etc...Wise words for a newbie
Ns04
#109
Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
The only thing the track times showed was that when you throw caution to the wind and drive absolutley on the edge the Scoob and EVO were quicker. Do you do that on a sunday afternoon jont? I dont think so .....
Its actually the response I was looking for though as everytime the EVO spanks the scoob on the track the comment is that back roads are where its at not the track. A Vauxhall does well in that area and all of a sudden the track means everything .....
Now thats double standards
Fair play Vauxhall, finally getting your act together.
Gary
Its actually the response I was looking for though as everytime the EVO spanks the scoob on the track the comment is that back roads are where its at not the track. A Vauxhall does well in that area and all of a sudden the track means everything .....
Now thats double standards
Fair play Vauxhall, finally getting your act together.
Gary
By the way pointless going at it with the Evo comments spanking Scoobs on the track. I actually have an Evo VIII - still like Scoobs though.
#110
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Sunny Aberdeen
Posts: 700
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
The only thing the track times showed was that when you throw caution to the wind and drive absolutley on the edge the Scoob and EVO were quicker. Do you do that on a sunday afternoon jont? I dont think so .....
Its actually the response I was looking for though as everytime the EVO spanks the scoob on the track the comment is that back roads are where its at not the track. A Vauxhall does well in that area and all of a sudden the track means everything .....
Now thats double standards
Fair play Vauxhall, finally getting your act together.
Gary
Its actually the response I was looking for though as everytime the EVO spanks the scoob on the track the comment is that back roads are where its at not the track. A Vauxhall does well in that area and all of a sudden the track means everything .....
Now thats double standards
Fair play Vauxhall, finally getting your act together.
Gary
#111
Originally Posted by sgcooby
God. Its relentless baiting and stirring with you aint it. Give it a rest. If your not stirring the **** your blowing off about your bloody exploits on the ring in your pug. Yawn. The VXR seams a good quick car and by EVO Mags own admission isnt far behind the scoob or mitsi so whats the problem. They are all better than your ****box.
As for me playing in the Pug ..... I drive mine, you polish yours, each to their own
Last edited by Gutmann pug; 10 March 2006 at 09:09 AM.
#112
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Sunny Aberdeen
Posts: 700
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Its fun ....... Its debate..........if you dont like it, dont reply....job done
#113
If pointing out double standards as a wind up then hands up, guilty your honour.
Not so very long ago an Astra VXR thread ran for ages discussing the front wheel drive 240bhp car and how it could never be as good as other cars. Front wheel drive just not cutting it. It would appear that front wheel drive isnt so bad after all and that its catching up rather than loosing ground on other methods.
If the Vauxhall had been spanked in the artical there would have been an equally long thread in here talking of the griffin badge being a joke as usual.
If you think that debate is baiting then thats your look out. Some dont rise to it, you do everytime......
Gary
Not so very long ago an Astra VXR thread ran for ages discussing the front wheel drive 240bhp car and how it could never be as good as other cars. Front wheel drive just not cutting it. It would appear that front wheel drive isnt so bad after all and that its catching up rather than loosing ground on other methods.
If the Vauxhall had been spanked in the artical there would have been an equally long thread in here talking of the griffin badge being a joke as usual.
If you think that debate is baiting then thats your look out. Some dont rise to it, you do everytime......
Gary
#114
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Sunny Aberdeen
Posts: 700
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
If pointing out double standards as a wind up then hands up, guilty your honour.
Not so very long ago an Astra VXR thread ran for ages discussing the front wheel drive 240bhp car and how it could never be as good as other cars. Front wheel drive just not cutting it. It would appear that front wheel drive isnt so bad after all and that its catching up rather than loosing ground on other methods.
If the Vauxhall had been spanked in the artical there would have been an equally long thread in here talking of the griffin badge being a joke as usual.
If you think that debate is baiting then thats your look out. Some dont rise to it, you do everytime......
Gary
Not so very long ago an Astra VXR thread ran for ages discussing the front wheel drive 240bhp car and how it could never be as good as other cars. Front wheel drive just not cutting it. It would appear that front wheel drive isnt so bad after all and that its catching up rather than loosing ground on other methods.
If the Vauxhall had been spanked in the artical there would have been an equally long thread in here talking of the griffin badge being a joke as usual.
If you think that debate is baiting then thats your look out. Some dont rise to it, you do everytime......
Gary
#115
Moderator
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: The Terry Crews of moderation. P P P P P P POWER!!
Posts: 18,687
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
I
If you think that debate is baiting then thats your look out. Some dont rise to it, you do everytime......
Gary
If you think that debate is baiting then thats your look out. Some dont rise to it, you do everytime......
Gary
Besides...
if there is a debate in this issue, it's not that three cars costing comparable amounts perform similarly on the road, it's that Imprezas have been shown to keep up with exotica costing many times their asking price Ferrari F550, Porsche GT3, M3 CSL etc...
And just for you, in a certain edition of Evo, I seem to recall a Clio 180 Trophy not exactly being humiliated by a M6!!
Ns04
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
28
28 December 2015 11:07 PM
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
12
18 November 2015 07:03 AM