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Old 08 March 2006, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by [Davey]
That makes no sense? Turning the engine over the the starter or by hand puts load on the bearings, the pistons are still creating compression (pushing back against the crank) so there is wear on the big and little ends exactly as there would be under normal running,
I think you will find that the load placed on the bearing during the power stroke will be MUCH greater than that during the compression stroke (or what would be the point of igniting it !). I said they remove the sensor to stop the engine fireing up.

However, I agree, cranking it seems a bit pointless as you don't have the oil wedge to lift the journal from the shell.

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Old 08 March 2006, 11:28 AM
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Ok not quite as bad as the firing stroke but still IMHO alot worse than the engine running with full oil pressure.
Old 08 March 2006, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by [Davey]
7 virgins to tighten your sump nut, you really don't!
7 x 18+ yr old virgins would certainly tighten my nuts....
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couldn't resist....
Old 08 March 2006, 12:11 PM
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Only when the engine blows up it sees the virgins on the other side
Old 08 March 2006, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by dj219957


hhmm.... how low in the sump does the pick up pipe go to then?
i.e how little oil would have to be in there for the pick up pipe to miss the oil causing a loss of pressure/oil flow?
It's right at very bottom (approx 1/2" gap between the pickup and the sump). With the car stationary and idling, you can get away with less than a litre of oil.

But as sson as you start driving you'll get problems with oil surge and high oil temps (less oil = less cooling capacity).

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Old 08 March 2006, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by [Davey]
Ok not quite as bad as the firing stroke but still IMHO alot worse than the engine running with full oil pressure.
I agree with you.

They remove the sensor to try and prime the system without the loads on the bearings of a fireing engine (NO, not a fire engine ), but I can't see this is significant as the engine oilways are just as full/empty of oil after an oil change as it is after its sat on your drive for an hour I think.
Old 08 March 2006, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Many people blame thier shagged engines on the oil change due to it being so close to a engine failure. Truth is, the engine was knackered before and the oil change finished it off - its not just Subarus this happens to.
I can vouch for that - My Clio 16v blew up shortly after a change - but the problem wasnt the oil change - it was the revs i was holding on the motorway at the time

Damn those cars need a 6th gear...
Old 08 March 2006, 05:40 PM
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my oil change went as follows (95 wrx)

1. remove sump bolt
2. remove old filter
3. replace sump bolt
4. replace new subaru oil filter (i did not pre fill it) rub a little oil around rubber ring. and scew in place.
5. put new oil in engine (valvolene fully synth) about 4.5 ltr.
6. put key in.
started engine with no revs. oil light went out after about 1 or 2 seconds. turn engine off.
re check dip stick. job done.

ive done about 1500miles now and ive had no problems. (YET)
Old 08 March 2006, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Soobmeister
Nothing, its like pslewis says, too many people feel the need to adopt the **** oil change procedure instead of being sensible and doing just what's required. I would **** myself laughing if any of my techs adopted this policy, they never have and never will and we've been servicing impreza turbos since 1994!
Can anyone remember the poster who was the **** king of kings??

He actually, and you won't believe this, soaked his Oil Filter OVERNIGHT!!!

He went out into the garage every 30 mins to top it up HE DID!!!

Why? well I asked him why, and it went something like, "These filters take hours to soak and fill properly!"

I hope someone can find the post ....... he was really the wally of all time!!

These ***** minds work in a weird way, don't they??

Pete
Old 08 March 2006, 06:40 PM
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Yes, next time i will just change as normal except pre-fill the oil filter (it only takes a few mins and i can see some logic to this).
Still no other explaination as to why the oil light should come on for so long after the change other than sticky sender unit (im satisfied it was not due to the .5 litres i missed out). Any other ideas?
Old 08 March 2006, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
He went out into the garage every 30 mins to top it up HE DID!!!
I'd dred going round his house for a cuppa, I bet it takes him 3 hours to make a brew!
Old 08 March 2006, 07:28 PM
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Where can you buy the special Subaru bells from??????
Old 08 March 2006, 07:40 PM
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This thread is very funny and Petes take on oil change should go down as a classic
Old 08 March 2006, 07:48 PM
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I think everyone will agree, soaking an oil filter overnight takes the pee big time. Can you imagine it? Subaru garages up and down the country must keep shelves of ready filled filters and employ a special guy to topp em up every half hour so there ready when we drop our cars off for service.
Old 08 March 2006, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by [Davey]
I'd dred going round his house for a cuppa, I bet it takes him 3 hours to make a brew!
I wouldn't care how long he took to make the tea ......... just imagine how FOOOOOKING BORING the bloke must be??

Like all the *****, I bet their command of a 'FUN' time is limited to discussing the merits of Oil Molecules Bonding Properties .......... I want to talk about footy, cars and beer (I'm too old to talk about girls!)

Pete
Old 08 March 2006, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I wouldn't care how long he took to make the tea ......... just imagine how FOOOOOKING BORING the bloke must be??

Like all the *****, I bet their command of a 'FUN' time is limited to discussing the merits of Oil Molecules Bonding Properties .......... I want to talk about footy, cars and beer (I'm too old to talk about girls!)

Pete
Let's talk footy then Pete....my team is St Mirren....whose yours?

And my beer is Stella.....what's yours?
Old 09 March 2006, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dj219957
I think everyone will agree, soaking an oil filter overnight takes the pee big time. Can you imagine it? Subaru garages up and down the country must keep shelves of ready filled filters and employ a special guy to topp em up every half hour so there ready when we drop our cars off for service.

We're interviewing next week for that very position!!!! Just strruggling with the bells, they are on back order.
Old 09 March 2006, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I wouldn't care how long he took to make the tea ......... just imagine how FOOOOOKING BORING the bloke must be??

Pete
True, probably had a post count of around 16000, wonder if he had a social life
Old 09 March 2006, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmy boo
Let's talk footy then Pete....my team is St Mirren....whose yours?

And my beer is Stella.....what's yours?
The moment you start talking proper footy I'll join in

My beer is Ice Cold Fosters .... mmmmmmmmmmm

Pete
Old 09 March 2006, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
The moment you start talking proper footy I'll join in

My beer is Ice Cold Fosters .... mmmmmmmmmmm

Pete
Pete, he said beer not Eurofizz
Old 09 March 2006, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
Pete, he said beer not Eurofizz
Don't bother me ... it's LOVELY

You're not an **** Real Ale freak .... are you??

Pete
Old 09 March 2006, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Don't bother me ... it's LOVELY

You're not an **** Real Ale freak .... are you??

Pete
who Me????

no way mate I drink whatever I can get, which in germany is mainly lager but I tend to go for the Hefe Wizen cloudy wheat beer.

It gives you wicked trippy dreams if you drink to much of it
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hi so how do ya do the oil then is pslews right
Old 09 March 2006, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by wiseman
hi so how do ya do the oil then is pslews right
The same way you would on ANY other car..

Drain it, replace the filter (making sure you apply a little oil to the gasket)..

Fill with the appropriate amount of fresh oil (dont guess!)..

Give the oil a chance to settle in the sump then start the engine, make sure the oil light goes out and let it run for a minute.. stop the engine, let it settle for a couple of minutes then re check the level.

Simple as that!
Old 09 March 2006, 06:23 PM
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is millers 10 40 eney gud
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