No refund poilcy, is that law?
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Originally Posted by mart360
Just lifted from Richer Sounds web site
RETURNS
To return your purchase to Richer Sounds Internet
We will happily accept the return of your purchase under the following circumstances.
1.We offer a full refund for units purchased on our website, excluding delivery and collection charges incurred by us if the unit is unwanted and complete with packaging/accessories and in an �as new� condition, we aim to issue refunds within thirty days from collection at the outside.
2.Should the unit arrive faulty or damaged in transit; we will happily exchange this for a replacement unit or issue you with a full refund or credit as soon as possible.
3. Should the unit develop a fault:
� if the unit is covered by our �Supercare� extended warranty:
(this may be taken out any time within thirty days of purchase, by simply emailing webaftersales@richersounds.com)
We will happily collect the unit free of charge for a free speedy repair.
� If the unit is covered by our 'Panel Protection' extended warranty:
(this may be taken out any time within thirty days of purchase, by simply emailing webaftersales@richersounds.com)
We'll pick it up from your home and return it as soon as it is ready (LCD up to 30" we will obviously collect the unit, there will however be a small charge to cover our costs for collecting and delivering your unit).
� If it is covered by the manufacturer�s twelve month guarantee:
We will obviously collect the unit, there will however be a small charge to cover our costs for collecting and delivering your unit.
All items (excluding styli and cross faders) are guaranteed for a full 12 months for domestic use (second hand/ex-demo/service 3 months). Obviously we can�t be expected to guarantee against misuse (i.e. coffee spilt inside, blown speakers etc.), excessive wear and tear (i.e. commercial use), screen burn caused by channel logos or other static images or dead pixels of an amount not covered by the manufacturer's specifications. Please note that if repairs are done other than by ourselves or authorised agents our guarantee can�t apply. This guarantee is naturally in addition to your statutory rights. After the guarantee has expired we will still endeavour to help with any servicing your equipment may require.
Should you wish to use the service mentioned above please contact our aftersales department at webaftersales@richersounds.com, if this is inconvenient you may also take the unit to your local store.
so it would appear that a refund is permissable in this case
Mart
RETURNS
To return your purchase to Richer Sounds Internet
We will happily accept the return of your purchase under the following circumstances.
1.We offer a full refund for units purchased on our website, excluding delivery and collection charges incurred by us if the unit is unwanted and complete with packaging/accessories and in an �as new� condition, we aim to issue refunds within thirty days from collection at the outside.
2.Should the unit arrive faulty or damaged in transit; we will happily exchange this for a replacement unit or issue you with a full refund or credit as soon as possible.
3. Should the unit develop a fault:
� if the unit is covered by our �Supercare� extended warranty:
(this may be taken out any time within thirty days of purchase, by simply emailing webaftersales@richersounds.com)
We will happily collect the unit free of charge for a free speedy repair.
� If the unit is covered by our 'Panel Protection' extended warranty:
(this may be taken out any time within thirty days of purchase, by simply emailing webaftersales@richersounds.com)
We'll pick it up from your home and return it as soon as it is ready (LCD up to 30" we will obviously collect the unit, there will however be a small charge to cover our costs for collecting and delivering your unit).
� If it is covered by the manufacturer�s twelve month guarantee:
We will obviously collect the unit, there will however be a small charge to cover our costs for collecting and delivering your unit.
All items (excluding styli and cross faders) are guaranteed for a full 12 months for domestic use (second hand/ex-demo/service 3 months). Obviously we can�t be expected to guarantee against misuse (i.e. coffee spilt inside, blown speakers etc.), excessive wear and tear (i.e. commercial use), screen burn caused by channel logos or other static images or dead pixels of an amount not covered by the manufacturer's specifications. Please note that if repairs are done other than by ourselves or authorised agents our guarantee can�t apply. This guarantee is naturally in addition to your statutory rights. After the guarantee has expired we will still endeavour to help with any servicing your equipment may require.
Should you wish to use the service mentioned above please contact our aftersales department at webaftersales@richersounds.com, if this is inconvenient you may also take the unit to your local store.
so it would appear that a refund is permissable in this case
Mart
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mart360 - "purchased on our website" is the relevant bit - the OP's wasnt, it was bought in the shop.
The DSR ( Distance Selling Regulations ) apply to goods bought online or via mail order - under this customers can return the item for any reason they want BECAUSE they havent had a chance to see the actual item before they buy, only a picture of it, so arent in the same position to judge size, quality etc... before they pay.
Buying from a shop ( even if its the same company as also sells online ) is completely different as far as the laws for returning goods are concerned.
None of what you copied from the website is relevant to the OP's purchase, so what Richer Sounds have offered ( a credit note ) is perfectly legal, and is purely a goodwill gesture on their part.
The DSR ( Distance Selling Regulations ) apply to goods bought online or via mail order - under this customers can return the item for any reason they want BECAUSE they havent had a chance to see the actual item before they buy, only a picture of it, so arent in the same position to judge size, quality etc... before they pay.
Buying from a shop ( even if its the same company as also sells online ) is completely different as far as the laws for returning goods are concerned.
None of what you copied from the website is relevant to the OP's purchase, so what Richer Sounds have offered ( a credit note ) is perfectly legal, and is purely a goodwill gesture on their part.
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"1.We offer a full refund for units purchased on our website"
The reason why it says that on there website is they HAVE to by law under the DSR, they have no choice. But on shop purchases they do not have to give a refund for ANY reason unless the item is faulty. Hence the reason why they dont have to!
The reason why it says that on there website is they HAVE to by law under the DSR, they have no choice. But on shop purchases they do not have to give a refund for ANY reason unless the item is faulty. Hence the reason why they dont have to!
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i returned a mini disk player to richer sounds last year, with no problems got a full refund in cash... nothing wrong with the item, just wasnt the one i wanted!!
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Consider that a screwdriver through a speaker cone isn't going to count as faulty workmanship and such fiddling would be considered fraud anyway. Better off selling it on fleabay if you can't get a refund
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& for those 'shop keepers' who say that you dont have to give a refund for a 'faulty' item id suggest you re-read the DTI page or indeed, have a look here:
http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk/you...fs_c04.shtml#4
So i still stand by my 'Its in the shops interest' comment
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There is a lot of nonsense being represented as the law here... Id suggest that you write to Julian Richer; Im sure that he will be forthcoming.
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The DTIs website states that '...you are entiltled to your money back...' (where goods are faulty. In actual fact you are entitled to compensation and people usually accept the purchase price as full compensation, although they neednt. Compensation for consequential loss, and particularly, 'loss of bargain' have to be considered too. A retailer may not, under any circumstances, insist that replacement goods are taken (including where a copywrited item is returned, although even supermarkets are trying to abuse the law here).
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As stated on consumer direct site:-
No grounds for complaint
You don't have any grounds for complaint if you:
Were told about the defect beforehand.
Examined the item when you bought it and should have seen the defect.
Bought the item knowing it wasn't fit for what you wanted it for.
Did the damage yourself.
Made a mistake when buying the item.
Simply changed your mind
But many shops will help out of goodwill if you have proof of purchase.
No grounds for complaint
You don't have any grounds for complaint if you:
Were told about the defect beforehand.
Examined the item when you bought it and should have seen the defect.
Bought the item knowing it wasn't fit for what you wanted it for.
Did the damage yourself.
Made a mistake when buying the item.
Simply changed your mind
But many shops will help out of goodwill if you have proof of purchase.
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