Jamescsti

Here you go Pete, just for the record it's in the thread where you sing the praises of new labour if you want to make sure I haven't edited your post!

Point 36 refers!

pslewis

You said that I said Banned ALL Handguns ............. I didn't

Pete

Poor Guy

i keep reading/hearing about guns on the street being converted replicas. as an engineering student i think its an utter load of tosh. The materials used to make a £75 replica couldnt withstand the punishment of real ammo. also, how do you expect to fit a 9mm round down a mag tha holds 8mm rounds with no room for a bullet. Its easy to bore and ream an 8mm to 9mm, but you would have to change the slide on most guns, and theres no way i would be within 100m of it being fired. The thing would explode! So to make it you would need a real slide, real mag and tougher springs, and live rounds which are illegal anyway. 9mm blank revolvers, they might be easier, but again, you have to bore the barrel and ream it, by which time you may not well have bothered as youve lost any accuracy/seal, and again, exploding barrel.

Easier to get hold ofa real shooter. Im not the dodgiest of people but Im fairly certain I could get one in a day.

annoys me i cant use blank firers anymore because of scarmongering by a stupid government. I mean FFS, they had an amnesty round here ofr handing in, wait for it, BB guns!
BB guns jesus I mean............................ erg god bloody.

blood pressures going through the roof. gunna leave it there.

r32

It is worrying but law and order under this Government is a joke, they are reducing sentances all the time as the jails are full. No deterent hardly at all. Oh and dont bother to call 999.....................

cookstar

iTrader: (6)

As mentioned a couple of posts ago, guns just arnt hard to get hold of, with £500 in my pocket i could have one today. That is worrying because if i can get one who else can

Abdabz

There is a constant source of guns available... Usually in the right pub through a suitable connection anyone can have one within an hour...
£250ish will buy you a .22 revolver and .32 automatics can be got for under £200...Things is the automatics out there look good but are notrious for jamming as so many have been converted from blank firing guns...
People often go for .38 revolvers because their more reliable but young folk go for the sub machine guns "spray and pray" things...
The most popular gun of gangster choice a few years ago was the Brocock ME38 Magnum air pistol:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...05/ngun105.xml
as the air cartridge can be drilled out and used a sleeve to hold a live .22 round

Its scary how easy these things are to get hold of and how the sentance for possessing one is often a small price to pay for the types who carry them... Theyre also starting to make an appearance in my home town now, decades after first being shot in neighbouring cities and if these coke heads arent fearful of shooting in opublic then no-one is safe...

Ah well...
P

jasey

Pete

He's already ******* got one.

Pete - Boro are the greatest football team in the world and Tony Blair is the greatest thing to ever happen to this country

davegtt

In a lovely part of Oldham we have this....

http://www.piczo.com/WERNETHMAFIA?g=7877592&cr=3

Nice.

warrenm2

That link is just lovely

warrenm2

Follow up story in the Times

Leslie

Audilover,

Do you really think that violent crime has not got worse and is still increasing?

If you do then you are living in cloud cuckoo land! It is not that long ago when a murder anywhere was front page news. These days the average killing will just get a passing mention since there are so many of them.

Les

fatscoobyfella

Oldham eh....Dobcoss on one side,Glodwick on the other...You wouldnt even think they was on the same planet,nevermind in the same town..

The place is ruined..

AudiLover

Just look at the numbers of missing persons from today to 20 years ago. Theyve gone down...

Its just today these gangsters and kids are more brazen/dumb to do things like this without careful planning. As long as you mind your business your alot more likely to get bum raped and then die in a car crash.


And converted replicas are the most common gun but they can usually only be fired once or twice before they fail hence why there are so many non fatal shootings.

pslewis

And, according to official sources, if you have Gold Wheels then you are 50 times more likely to get Bum Raped ..... and quite enjoy it

Also, figures out today, reveal that those with a CockLink are three times more likely to die in a car crash due to a detting engine!!

Pete

AudiLover

lol gold wheels are gay so im not surprised with the first statistic.

pete higham

i live about 1.5 miles away from were these shootings were and this is not the first time this has happened and tbh lets say i know these people thro a friend of a friend......this is a new chapter opening up in salford and a lot more will happen there will be repercussion after repercussion and so on till it dies down

Chris5-0

Sorry mate you're mistaken!

Believe me it is possible to convert these weapons, easily and cheaply. I come across them quite regularly and they work just as well as a 'real one'! The standard of replicas is as good as the real thing (slides are metal etc and real handguns are more and more plastic in build), the tolerances may not be up there and there is a chance of explosion but they work. Remember most of these 'gangsters' want a show piece that might work for 10-20 rounds before going pop! Reboring 8mm to 9mm is simple and reloading equipment (the tools to make real bullets) is readily available and is LEGAL if bought seperately, its possesion of live ammo that is illegal.

Brockocks are a prime example, a simple bit of grinding and boring turns these 'toys' into real revolvers capable of killing.

The amnesty in relation to bb guns is warranted, i recently went to a local station to 'make safe' a Glock 17. Up until the moment i dropped the magazine and saw the bb's i was convinced it was real!!! And i carry a Glock 17 every working day! Point one of these at anyone on the street and they'll think its real, point it at me and i'll more than likely engage you as a threat!

On the plus side, just got 15 hours at double time protecting the staff looking after these two muppets that got shot in Salford and got a couple of good jobs out of the initial incident!!

Mike_Hunt

Every cloud has a silver lining

Brendan Hughes

You mean - soil yourself?

Chris5-0

I would hope my training negates the need to poo my pants as i shoot!!!

SiPie

Maybe just a little runny fart then ????

My hero

Chris5-0

Nice to know i'm someones!!!

Leslie

Funny, I thought that policing was more of a vocation and not necessarily to be measured against the chance of overtime!

Les

Chris5-0

Sorry mate i do it to pay the bills, as does every other cop i know!!

I joined to 'make a difference', got that knocked out of me by year 3 now i do my best under difficult circs to help where i can!!

Leslie

I can understand what you say Chris 5-0, I think it is a shame that your working conditions must surely grind you down so that you regard it purely as a job. It was beginning to get like that in the Services as I left too.

Les