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Old 18 March 2006, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Bram
I still wait to see scoobys littering the hard shoulders or on the sides of roads with their bonnets up.
How is this a representative sample? Are you an AA man? Do you fix or tune Subaurs, especially imports? Some Scoobys you might see by the side of the road because the owner is out tweaking it to go faster Maybe that is "sad", but how many cars have you doubled the power output of and surpassed the performance of cars costing five times as much?

Originally Posted by Bram
None of them was due to petrol, it was there own fault totally.
Where any of them standard imports after 1996 run on 95 RON? Why should a driver blow up an engine that is tuned/setup properly if it has been warmed up, not over-revved and cooled down? You should be able to drive them as hard as you can - I've driven a Legacy Turbo that is owned by an ex-racing driver who has had it for 200000 miles with little trouble apart from one refreshed gearbox. He always drove it hard. I expect to be able to drive a car hard and if it blows up it is rarely bad luck and more often something not setup or engineered properly. You should be able to put a modern performance car around a race track fairly regularly and have more common consumable replacements but not huge numbers of premature failures.

Originally Posted by Bram
Optimax comes from one refinery where I live its the same petrol supplied all over the country. But I still read some people feel that one garage optimax is better than another just down the road. Unless the storage tank is contaminated a cannot see the logic here. And why would you need to boost optimax with additives, I thought that was the reason to purchase optimax in the first place it had already had additives.
I found that I could add about a further 40 BHP and 40 lbft by adding further additives to Optimax and tuning for it. Have you found otherwise or are you commenting on something you haven't tried?
Old 18 March 2006, 10:07 AM
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There is so much ****e posted in this thread, its untrue.... and Im not referring to John Banks ffs!
Old 18 March 2006, 11:05 AM
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I've driven a Legacy Turbo that is owned by an ex-racing driver who has had it for 200000 miles with little trouble apart from one refreshed gearbox
Forgive me John, but would it be only just me who's noticed that Legacys (Leagcies? Legaci? ), when compared to Imprezas very seem to suffer less from engine failures?

Whether that is due to less of them about demographically or the image making to more popular to more sympathtic owner (for both maintanence, mods and driving). Especially when some have been on the road for well over 16years, you'd expect to see more of them that have had engine rebuilds, especially seeing that they mechanically similar
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They do seem a bit better built, oversized turbo, low boost, closed deck block?
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Originally Posted by john banks
Very predictable and patronising.

I will point out that I was the first mapper that was trained and started mapping with Ecutek tools other than Ecutek themselves and that subsequently this same technology was adopted by Prodrive and Subaru to produce warrantied packages. Subsequently I had the first UK car over 400 BHP, developed my own electronic boost controller and designed a complete solution to remove the MAF sensor from the car and run it properly.

Your attempts to pigeon hole me into my primary profession ignore the fact that I had a successful and profitable Subaru tuning business that I wound up because I had a more profitable medical practice.

You also ignore the fact that one of the leading Evo tuners is a Dentist by training etc etc.

I do not own a pair of det cans, but have access to some if I need them.

Now, are you going to be a miserable old man who is interested in titles, or are you going to waste my time as I suggested you would in my first post by avoiding debating the engineering issues?

Trouble is, you know I'll run rings around you about anything to do with a Subaru ECU


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Old 18 March 2006, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis

John, are you a GP? The reason I ask, is that I have a number of small sores, that look a little like mouth ulcers, around my anus and Im concerned.....

Pete
Pete you are an arrogant, ignorant ****!
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[quote=john banks]but how many cars have you doubled the power output of and surpassed the performance of cars costing five times as much?

Whats that got to do with cars littering the highway

I take it my question was not simple enough, I meant why am I not seeing subarus broken down all over the place if they are so prone to issues concerning fuel.

When commuting I see plenty of examples of Scoobs all various filling up at stations who do not sell opti or BP, I often see varied classic at tesco when I go down for my weekly shopping. One bloke I do know has done this for 3 years he has had the motor, no remap but in honesty it aint an JDM.

Oh, my mates used ordinary optimax and thrashed the bee jeevers out of them.

Quote: Why should a driver blow up an engine that is tuned/setup properly if it has been warmed up, not over-revved and cooled down? You should be able to drive them as hard as you can -

Well having participated in motor sport and watched countless rallys and events, your argument dont hold up. If you are so confident you should be working in F1 or WRC as they seem to fail regular with engines, management and countless other issues and they have teams of so called specialists, they need you It takes a confident man to say how mechanics/engineering will react to all given situations and events during an engine working cycle and how it is driven. You seem to be such an individual

The optimax statement was regarding supply and why it required additions,

40 brake increase for £5.00 bottle, why dont I see threads with this all over the place, is it a closely guarded secret. I see a lot of threads wanting to spend £500 for a remap for a more modest gain from standard.
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As stated in another thread; ScoobyNet are having a bell-end coupon day today!
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Originally Posted by pslewis

John, are you a GP? The reason I ask, is that I have a number of small sores, that look a little like mouth ulcers, around my anus and Im concerned.....

Pete



That's because you talk out of your **** Pete !!

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[quote=Bram]
Originally Posted by john banks
but how many cars have you doubled the power output of and surpassed the performance of cars costing five times as much?

Whats that got to do with cars littering the highway

I take it my question was not simple enough, I meant why am I not seeing subarus broken down all over the place if they are so prone to issues concerning fuel.

When commuting I see plenty of examples of Scoobs all various filling up at stations who do not sell opti or BP, I often see varied classic at tesco when I go down for my weekly shopping. One bloke I do know has done this for 3 years he has had the motor, no remap but in honesty it aint an JDM.

Oh, my mates used ordinary optimax and thrashed the bee jeevers out of them.

Quote: Why should a driver blow up an engine that is tuned/setup properly if it has been warmed up, not over-revved and cooled down? You should be able to drive them as hard as you can -

Well having participated in motor sport and watched countless rallys and events, your argument dont hold up. If you are so confident you should be working in F1 or WRC as they seem to fail regular with engines, management and countless other issues and they have teams of so called specialists, they need you It takes a confident man to say how mechanics/engineering will react to all given situations and events during an engine working cycle and how it is driven. You seem to be such an individual

The optimax statement was regarding supply and why it required additions,

40 brake increase for £5.00 bottle, why dont I see threads with this all over the place, is it a closely guarded secret. I see a lot of threads wanting to spend £500 for a remap for a more modest gain from standard.


Enough already, stop making an idiot of yourself. Do not engage in a war of wits when you are so ill armed to defend yourself.
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I can see a newbie getting mullered !

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Old 18 March 2006, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobfan
Originally Posted by pslewis

John, are you a GP? The reason I ask, is that I have a number of small sores, that look a little like mouth ulcers, around my anus and Im concerned.....

Pete



That's because you talk out of your **** Pete !!

Rob
No Rob, its more likey to be due to the nice man he met in Tadley gents toilets!
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Originally Posted by GC8
No Rob, its more likey to be due to the nice man he met in Tadley gents toilets!
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Originally Posted by john banks

Engines fail, but it seems a damn shame that you can get a few Achilles heel situations on GC8 ECUs that it just doesn't see. Good job it is not a nuclear power station
Ha, even the scooby ECU probably has more power than that.

Our's are directly controlled by seven 80286 based multibus micro's using CUTLASS software, with another 12 micros and 4 ancient supermini's in support.


(Bet I'm the only Snetter who has ever been a CUTLASS programmer )

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Originally Posted by john banks
Trouble is, you know I'll run rings around you about anything to do with a Subaru ECU
In general Engineering I will eat you for breakfast - I am a fully qualified Electronic and Mechanical Design Engineer ...... you, on the other hand have no Engineering quals. just a 4 hour training course on how to use a mapping program - so, don't get too big for your boots!! You are a legend of your own mind!

The mapping of a ECU is simplicity itself, I know that - you know that! It's easy money and you don't want to lose that income stream and thats fair enough. What I am about is trying to STOP the likes of you and others into sending the ****s up Impreza owners so they empty their wallets in your general direction!

You stand yourself on a pedestal and proclaim that you are better than SUBARU at what SUBARU do ... well, ok, the Subaru is **** and will blow up unless John Banks sorts it out

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Originally Posted by GC8
There is so much ****e posted in this thread, its untrue.... and Im not referring to John Banks because he's my bum buddy!
Yeah, sounds about right

You ***** are so far up each others ***** it beggars belief

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Pete - It's more like John has a proven track record when it comes to
the Impreza, do you ??

If so I would be interested in the time you have dedicated to the marque
and the benefits it has had towards other owners.

Rob
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Enough already, stop making an idiot of yourself. Do not engage in a war of wits when you are so ill armed to defend yourself.
I will await to be assimilated, resistance is futile!
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Originally Posted by scoobfan
Pete - It's more like John has a proven track record when it comes to
the Impreza, do you ??

If so I would be interested in the time you have dedicated to the marque
and the benefits it has had towards other owners.

Rob
OK, now that you have stopped your childish, idiotic ramblings I will converse with you.

John Banks is a Hobbyist, probably a very good one, he enjoys the Impreza and knows a lot about it. I see that you Hero Worship him, which is a bit unhealthy but thats yours and your doctors problem!

He has had training in being a mapping program operator.

I am a 'proper' engineer, with a 'proper' engineering background .. I have also taken plenty of cars apart over many decades .. I know how engines work .. they are basically the same as they always have been - only now they are under the control of an ECU (which, actually, is very simple indeed!).

The ECU takes a signal from a sensor and responds in a pre-programmed way, it looks up DATA in a table and this DATA is generally what the mappers alter. It's a very, very simple task .... thats why I laugh at the charges for that service.

You ask what benefit I have had on other Subaru Owners? Well, I have - through this medium - been able to put many minds at rest ....... now, you are a bit simple so cannot be helped, but most have a basic intelligence that questions the ***** statements and I add the Engineering backing to their doubts, therefore they save money and actually enjoy their cars rather that expecting a blown engine every weekend!

Whats YOUR contribution??

Pete
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Originally Posted by pslewis
OK, now that you have stopped your childish, idiotic ramblings I will converse with you.
John Banks is a Hobbyist, probably a very good one, he enjoys the Impreza and knows a lot about it. I see that you Hero Worship him, which is a bit unhealthy but thats yours and your doctors problem!

He has had training in being a mapping program operator.

I am a 'proper' engineer, with a 'proper' engineering background .. I have also taken plenty of cars apart over many decades .. I know how engines work .. they are basically the same as they always have been - only now they are under the control of an ECU (which, actually, is very simple indeed!).

The ECU takes a signal from a sensor and responds in a pre-programmed way, it looks up DATA in a table and this DATA is generally what the mappers alter. It's a very, very simple task .... thats why I laugh at the charges for that service.

You ask what benefit I have had on other Subaru Owners? Well, I have - through this medium - been able to put many minds at rest ....... now, you are a bit simple so cannot be helped, but most have a basic intelligence that questions the ***** statements and I add the Engineering backing to their doubts and therefore they save money and actually enjoy their cars rather that expecting a blown engine every weekend!

Whats YOUR contribution??

Pete
Well, you didn't answer my question because you can't.

Me simple, if only you knew !

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Originally Posted by scoobfan
Well, you didn't answer my question because you can't.

Me simple, if only you knew !

Rob
You quite clearly 'rate' yourself highly

I can say nothing to change your mind, so why bother?

Pete
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Originally Posted by pslewis
You quite clearly 'rate' yourself highly

I can say nothing to change your mind, so why bother?

Pete
[Takes out his trophy and shouts] I am the master

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I see quite a number of people that have never heard of scoobynet, or don't even have web access. It doesn't make them any less prone to suffering the various problems that certain models have.

I recently mapped a car for someone that had a newly built and run-in engine on a 98PPP UK car. He was on his 3rd engine, and couldn't figure out why, the engine builder couldn't figure it out either, it was a standard PPP car, no other mods at all. I started to map the car (on PowerFC) and straight away ran into problems trying to prevent it from detting, and had to make drastic changes to stop the det pretty much everywhere on the map.

"What fuel do you normally run?"

"Er normal unleaded, does it make a difference?"

Bingo. 3 engines and a remap later, we get to the bottom of his problem. The 97/98 PPP ECU is (like it's predicessors) an STI engineered on from japan, it was designed to run on the 98RON fuel available at the time. It DOES NOT like 95 RON.

So we put a little octane booster in, and topped off the tank with SUL, and everything was back to normal.

The important thing to realise is that some UK cars are not immune to such problems, just like the imports. A knocklink would have also told him that 95RON was bad.

He had never heard of scoobynet.

Conversly I know plenty of people that have had the upmost reliability from their Subaru's, even with considerably more power than standard.

Paul

Originally Posted by pslewis
Nice speech .....

Now, how many Impreza Turbo owners are out there who:-

a) Have never heard of ScoobyNet

b) Don't want to know about it

c) Are driving their cars around for decades without issues

I'll answer that for you ...... LOADS!!!

Probably 70% of Imprezas sold never even come close to ScoobyNet and drive around blissfully unaware that their engines are made of chocolate with ice cream pistons and jelly big end bearings!

Now, lets take a look at why a proportion of ScoobyNet owners have engines rebuilt? Let me add that it STILL isn't a large proportion!

It's like this:-

1. The average ScoobyNetter is under 30, yes?

2. The 20 somethings love to want to go faster

3. The 20 somethings are risk takers

4. This group WILL modify their cars and WILL drive them over their mechanical limits

5. This group will also be the ones who are computer literate and will want to shout about their blown engines on here

So, a false sense of failure ensues ...... 6 years ago, when I bought my Impreza Turbo I was about 2 months into reading ScoobyNet - it nearly put me off!!!!

I started to think that I was about to buy something akin to a TVR, a Rover or an Alfa Romeo with all the costs and unreliability they bring!!

BUT, the JD Power Surveys - I thought - couldn't be wrong??? They were saying that the Impreza was honed from a solid piece of granite .. troubles only happened if it was messed with .... and, being an Engineer, I understood how the two seemingly differring opinions could co-exsist.

So I bought one.

Result?

The most reliable car I have ever owned, by quite a margin and The fastest car I have ever owned, by quite a margin.

My brakes have lasted from new to now, 66,000miles later. The Michelin tyres last for 30,000miles a piece. Insurance costs me £335 a year. Oil and Filter costs £20 every 6 months and is a simple DIY procedure. Annual Servicing costs are well under control.

This paints a picture of the majority of Imprezas on the worlds roads today - solid and reliable if treated with respect and sympathy.

How do I know this for absolutely CERTAIN?

Simply because NOWHERE else is the Impreza Engines abilities to cover massive mileages ever questioned. Do you read articles on chocolate Impreza engines in Car Magazines? No you do NOT! Do you watch as Top Gear slags the crappy Impreza off? No you do NOT! Do you have Subaru Dealers thumping their heads against the desk as they cannot sell one of the most unreliable cars of all time? NO you do NOT!

It boils down to an absolutely simple conclusion, summed up in few words:-

"Subaru Impreza Engines do sometimes go wrong, this is due (mainly) to these engines being tuned and driven well outside of their design envelope. The owners/drivers of these vehicles are most likely to frequent a BBS and they will like to spread the word of their mis-fortune (brought upon themselves by their own stupidity but no-one likes to admit being stupid) and the poor old abused car gets the blame. They therefore have the effect of skewing the truth for anyone reading ScoobyNet"

Engine re-builders love to hype the myths, to fight to be the Top Engine Rebuilder ....... but they know, in their heart of hearts that they actually see very few of the Subaru engines ever built.

Most go on and on and on and on and on without missing a beat.

Subaru know how to build a great engine, powered by great engineering principles and controlled by the finest Electronics the world has to offer - so say otherwise is flying into the face of the facts around us.

Pete
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I have been reading this bbs for years and it was quite clear back then that PSlewis was an imbecile. The initial question is about import imprezas and fueling yet he rambles on about his uk car which is pretty irrelevant. He has no experience what so ever and will try to belittle others, notably those from who work on subaru engines day in day out.

We all know thrashing your car a lot will shorten its life but that does not mean its the only issue that will crop up with the engine. Running a car from another country on fuel it was desinged to is surely a no no, hence why we get sent UK/European cars.

Who do you want to trust when going for an import impreza, reputable tuners and those with engine experience and true ecu knowledge or PSlewis and his views formed from owning one UK subaru?

The choice is yours......
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Originally Posted by Zen Performance
The important thing to realise is that some UK cars are not immune to such problems, just like the imports. A knocklink would have also told him that 95RON was bad.

Paul
Paul

Are you saying that you could run into problems running a 2003 STi type UK (Non PPP) on 95 ron (given that all components are working correctly) ?
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Originally Posted by Bram
I will await to be assimilated, resistance is futile!
Good glad to see you have made the concession early on
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The thing is here, pslewis spouts more ****e than a sewage works that has a ruptured main inlet pipe.
He does try to belittle people on here and he does try to convert people in to "his way of thinking",which only in few cases, is he correct.
You put a good case forward and you can be sure pslewis will be there to try and knock you down and try to make you look a fool,when in fact the only fool is pslewis himself.
I also have been on SN for years under a different name i might add,which i wont tell you because thats my business, but as soon as i put a strong case forward in a discussion, who was there wanting to know who i was, how long i had been here,only because my post count was very small ?

The facts of hardening in a crank on another thread was discussed the otherday, pslewis couldnt understand the rudiments of a crank moving with heat,very simple,find the thread,see for your self.
Pslewis you argue yet you dont know,you belittle the people with knowledge and you listern to no one except your over inflated ego.....your an ***!

Iam also an Engineer,An Areospace engineer of 20 years and from what i read of you posts,you really dont have a clue.


Back to topic now....

out of curiosity,how many people here have damaged their engines by not knowing of octane boosters,and by simply using std uk 95/98 ron fuels in their imports?are we talking a handful or 10's 20's...

I would guess, many have done some kind of damage,but thanks to the people in the know,good advice has been passed down and around to help this figure be less than what it could of been

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Originally Posted by Bone
I have been reading this bbs for years and it was quite clear back then that PSlewis was a master engineer.

Who do you want to trust when going for an import impreza,

reputable tuners and those with engine experience and true ecu knowledge and looking to make a lot of money out of scaring the **** out of you or PSlewis and his views formed from decades of engineering experience and rebuilding cars of all types and makes?

The choice is yours......
Well put .... pretty level headed post!

pete
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Originally Posted by justanotherperson
Iam also an Engineer,An Areospace engineer of 20 years and from what i read of you posts,you really dont have a clue.
People call themselves Engineers - are you Chartered and where did you do your Degree and what is your specialist area??

Just interested, because, to me, you are justanotherperson

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Originally Posted by Gary C
Paul

Are you saying that you could run into problems running a 2003 STi type UK (Non PPP) on 95 ron (given that all components are working correctly) ?
I would think that a non PPP sti would be okay on 95 RON. The new age ECUs are MUCH smarter, they have additional temperature compensation, wider knock sensing bandwith, much more active ignition retard/advance and seem much more consistent car to car.

But, expect roughly a 20hp drop in power.

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