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Old 20 March 2006, 12:22 PM
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Just check out the current technology:-

http://www.vehicleoccupancy.com/index.htm
Old 20 March 2006, 01:07 PM
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One problem I noticed with car pool lanes in Washington State was joining & leaving the car pool lane at entrances and exits. There were car pool lanes either as either the innermost or outermost lane. If the car pool lane was the outermost lane and was free flowing, but the next lane in was nose-to-tail and moving slowly, you basically had to bring the outer lane to a standstill in order to merge with the inside lane so you could move across and take an exit. Similalry when there was an entrance you had to made damn sure you slowed down in case a car wanted to join the pool car lane from the slowly moving inside lane.

If the pool car lane was the innermost lane then there was a problem at every junction as non pool car traffic had to traverse across your lane to enter and exit.
Old 20 March 2006, 01:20 PM
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Thought so #7
Old 20 March 2006, 01:56 PM
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I've figured it out. Due to the increasing unemployment figures, the government are shortly to introduce a "rent-a-chav" policy where your business can take on a chav at minimum wage to sit in the passengers seat of key employees so they can avoid the government engineered gridlock!
Old 20 March 2006, 02:09 PM
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Its a cheap way to inconvenience as many motorists as possible and also to try to make us think they are doing something positive for once!

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Old 20 March 2006, 02:15 PM
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Yet another top quality initiative from Darling and Ladyman.

I love New Britain.
Old 20 March 2006, 03:53 PM
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I have said for many years that the concept of a problematic "rush hour" is symptomatic of a narrowminded society. Why do the majority of people start between 8 & 9am and finish between 4.30 and 5.30pm ? Would it be a major inconvenience for most business's to have a staggered working day, where some staff arrive at 6, some 7, 8, 9 and 10, and have them leaving at 1.30, 2.30 etc ? It would also be sensible for commercial business's in central business districts of major cities with congestion problems to consider opening at 10am and staying open until 8pm, thus pushing shoppers out of the equation. Let's face it, anyone who has ever worked in a city centre store (I did when I was 16) knows that there is virtually nothing to do until at least 10am ! Instead of ploughing millions, or even billions into hackneyed half-baked congestion reducing policies which always have extremely minimal effect on the problem, simply offer tax perks for companies who can prove that they have implemented flexible staggered working hours. Why shouldn't companies embrace the concept, as how many times have you heard someone say after coming in early or working late, that they got loads more work done and their journey in/out was much quicker ?
Old 20 March 2006, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
I have said for many years that the concept of a problematic "rush hour" is symptomatic of a narrowminded society. Why do the majority of people start between 8 & 9am and finish between 4.30 and 5.30pm ? Would it be a major inconvenience for most business's to have a staggered working day, where some staff arrive at 6, some 7, 8, 9 and 10, and have them leaving at 1.30, 2.30 etc ? It would also be sensible for commercial business's in central business districts of major cities with congestion problems to consider opening at 10am and staying open until 8pm, thus pushing shoppers out of the equation. Let's face it, anyone who has ever worked in a city centre store (I did when I was 16) knows that there is virtually nothing to do until at least 10am ! Instead of ploughing millions, or even billions into hackneyed half-baked congestion reducing policies which always have extremely minimal effect on the problem, simply offer tax perks for companies who can prove that they have implemented flexible staggered working hours. Why shouldn't companies embrace the concept, as how many times have you heard someone say after coming in early or working late, that they got loads more work done and their journey in/out was much quicker ?
The objective is to get cars off the road, not to reduce congestion. They just do so many of these things under the guise of reducing congestion so the public don't rebel. There was talk recently about charging people up to £10 a day to park in the car park at your office. That's fine for those that can work at home, but for those that cannot, it's a bit of a bugger.
Old 20 March 2006, 04:33 PM
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Woo for b3ta
Old 20 March 2006, 06:33 PM
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In Jakarta you are only allowed to drive through the main city centre streets with a minimum of 2 people in your car, so just before the zone starts people hang around on the street corner you pay them 50p and they sit in your car so you can drive through

Anyone know if vans be able to go in the sharing lane?
Old 20 March 2006, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Foxmod
Just check out the current technology:-

http://www.vehicleoccupancy.com/index.htm
That is really scarey

Our innovative technology can instantly differentiate between humans and any decoy passengers. The system is designed to detect human skin behind all types of automotive glass at a range of 10-100m. Our system has the ability to detect individuals independent of their ethnic origins, gender, size, facial hair or cosmetics. This is essential for successful detection of any occupant within the vehicle.

Applications currently under test include:
  • Automatic roadside monitoring of HOV lanes
  • Occupancy detection for differential congestion charging based upon vehicle occupancy
  • Advanced road toll charging based on vehicle occupancy
  • Occupancy based car park charging
  • Border and immigration control
  • Bus and coach monitoring
  • Crowd monitoring
  • Identification of counterfeit parking discs
  • Traffic statistics
This is big brother totally out of control

mb
Old 21 March 2006, 01:34 PM
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Occupancy based car park charging. WTF. You're paying to use an area of ground, number of occupants doesn't enter into it.
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