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Old 21 March 2006, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
Not sure if this applies in Olly's case. Surely there is free movement of workers throughout the EU?
They can't be tightening down that much as one of the official bits of beaurocracy called the Aufenthaltserlaubnis needed by EU citizens was scrapped in Jan 2005, just as I was due to renew mine. They have also done away with the deregistering aswell.

As an EU citizen you can freely come and work in Germany.
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
When I moved to Germany 6 years ago I could speak about 4 words of German, however the company gave me German lessons which didn't last long as my teacher got pregnant and left

But I am the only Brit in my team so I am subject to German all the time, we speak mainly English at work with it being an American company but with the exception of a handfull of Brit mates, most of my mates are German and I hang out with them. Not being able to speak German is not a problem as the majority speak English but you will need to learn some German to get by for when you go shopping or need to speak to someone you don't know, you can not automatically assume they speak English. However if you try to speak German to them and are making a tit of yourself they will speak English to you if they can.

I would not let the language barrier stop you trying in a non English country, as aragant as it might be, most foreigners speak enough english for you to communicate with them.
Forgive the spelling - but I have a smattering of german

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I've inherited a nice plot in Ireland with a farm thats in need of renovation. I'm just biding my time at the moment over here, building hopefully some cash to get the ball rolling over there. I intend to renovate the place so i can move over there and sell up over here, which will leave me with quite a comfortable balance. I have no kids at the moment, and TBH am not overjoyed at the prospect of raising any over in this country. Work wise, at the moment the economy is in good condition thanks to low corporation tax and EU subsidy, either of which could change. But hopefully I can set myself up in something. Utility bills hopefully wont be too much, looking into 'green living', ie wind, solar water renewable sources. Theres no council tax, water provided by a stream 20ft from property boundary. Self sufficiency mainly with a good eye on expenditure 'til I set myself up in something.

The benefits for me moving to Ireland is that its not too far from 'home', culturally similar, shared language, much better environment for kids and myself, more relaxed pace of life.

It would be very difficult for me to move to a far flung former colony, not just for family reasons, but I kinda like this part of the world.
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Forgive the spelling - but I have a smattering of german

Eina grossa beir bitter
Ein curryverst mit pomme
Morgen grumpf
Kratscherlig

The last 2 courtesy of a former girlfriend!
Well there you go then you are practically a native
Old 21 March 2006, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
I've inherited a nice plot in Ireland with a farm thats in need of renovation. I'm just biding my time at the moment over here, building hopefully some cash to get the ball rolling over there. I intend to renovate the place so i can move over there and sell up over here, which will leave me with quite a comfortable balance. I have no kids at the moment, and TBH am not overjoyed at the prospect of raising any over in this country. Work wise, at the moment the economy is in good condition thanks to low corporation tax and EU subsidy, either of which could change. But hopefully I can set myself up in something. Utility bills hopefully wont be too much, looking into 'green living', ie wind, solar water renewable sources. Theres no council tax, water provided by a stream 20ft from property boundary. Self sufficiency mainly with a good eye on expenditure 'til I set myself up in something.

The benefits for me moving to Ireland is that its not too far from 'home', culturally similar, shared language, much better environment for kids and myself, more relaxed pace of life.

It would be very difficult for me to move to a far flung former colony, not just for family reasons, but I kinda like this part of the world.
I had pondered doing something similar in deepest France. Property is cheap as chips down there, more so if you're prepared to sort it yourself. Eire, I hadn't thought of that, worth considering, I love it down near Cork & Kinsale.
Old 21 March 2006, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
Well there you go then you are practically a native
Got the priorities sorted anyway
Old 21 March 2006, 02:25 PM
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Yep, lovely part of the world. But prices have gone up by a great deal in the past 5 years. I suppose Im *lucky* in being gifted a place with 15 acres in a stunning location, that's what should make my decision all that much easier to make.

Shouldn't you rename this tread "how do I get off the vehicle in the multi occupation lane?"
Old 21 March 2006, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
They can't be tightening down that much as one of the official bits of beaurocracy called the Aufenthaltserlaubnis needed by EU citizens was scrapped in Jan 2005, just as I was due to renew mine.
Well you learn something new every day, the wife and I have been thinking that we're illegal immigrants since ours ran out two years ago, nice one Wurzel
Old 21 March 2006, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
am i the only person who likes the UK?
Nope. I ended up here having emigrated from Oz but as Brendan says, it depends on whether you're a half full or half empty kind of person. There's nothing wrong with wanting to travel but too many people just assume that everywhere else is some idyllic paradise where buildings are completed on time, there is no crime, governments are brilliant and there aren't any common people. Sorry, Utopia doesn't exist.

The weather does suck here, though.
Old 21 March 2006, 02:34 PM
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Oh, another tip if you go to a country that doesn't have English as a native language - expect to pay a premium (50-100% or more) for any services where you need them in English.
Old 21 March 2006, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Markus
I saw your comment about you thinking of starting a business in the US. Good luck! I trully mean that too! They are *******s when it comes to foreigners wishing to work there. We opened a US office and needed to move over five people (2 sales and three technical/development). We're a niche company, and so it's not like just any old tech support or development chappy could do the jobs we do. The boss wanted to pay US taxes and be all above board, but basically they would not let us.

Interesting thing is that the office was based in st louis, which isn't exactly known for it's technical prowess, it's more of an industrial city, and we did look for employee's but they simply were not there, that didn't matter to the immgration chappies though.
I remember from your previous thread when you mentioned it..

The potential plan to start a business is basically to get an E2 investor visa...where (very very broadly speaking and briefly) if as a foreigner you have a 51%+ control/stake in a business (new or existing) you can live in the US to run that. Still in the early stages of toying with some ideas, some finances and page after page of small print *****...but it seems to be my best bet at the moment- as i said before due to my choice of degree and career, it may be my ONLY option for the forseeable future. Thats the general gist of it- although greatly simplified!!!!

I exceed the canada test for both immigration with a job offer (again- pretty hard), but canada also has a self employed immigrant category- again- I exceed the points by quite a lot, so no problems there.
it just baffles me why the US doesnt have a points system- they make it harder than anywhere else in the world.

Easier option woukld be to marry the bird in NYC, but as its on shaky ground as it is- that is looking unlikely at the moment. Plus marriage= scary!

Might drop you a PM soon about toronto....may be visiting soon- and as I said before, it is the back up plan

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I'm currently working towards moving to New Zealand after this summer.

Went on holiday and the lifestyle is so much better than here. Emigrating isn't particularly easy but then they like people from the UK filling the holes in their job market. There are several ways to get in, most popular is the Skilled Migrants Category where you get scored on points and if you have enough they consider offering you the chance to apply for residency. It obviously helps if you have a job offer from NZ, and there are a few companies/agencies over here that help you sort that.

Theres and Expo on at the Ibis Earls Court on sat where employment agencies and employers are over from NZ looking for workers
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PM away, I'll answer as much as I can.
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Lot of these threads going around recently.

Moved to Yankieland in October 2004 after being here for 8 months in 03-04 and then 8 months in Japan also.

Have to agree it's a total pain in the a%se to get into and i'm still not home and dry as I have to apply for my greencard in October.

I do love it here and personally would not go back to the uk if i had the choice. I live just outside boston and apart from having to drive feckin miles to get anywhere can't see any plus points the Uk has over the US,

If anyone wants some info just drop me a PM. but personally unless you are marrying a yank chick I think your going find it very difficult to get in.

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Originally Posted by Rags
but personally unless you are marrying a yank chick I think your going find it very difficult to get in.

Rags
Are you allowed to work?

I'm not overly fond of the US, and I have american family and friends, and have worked in the US for a couple of months every once in a while, so I'm not just blindly being anti-american.

I just get frustrated that when I try to enter the US, be it on business or pleasure, I get grilled about why I wish to enter the place. I will admit that I was very surprised at the ease I gained entry on my last business trip a few weeks ago. Maybe it's because I know the procedure by now, so come loaded with letters from the boss saying what I'm doing, who I am seeing and why. Hotel reservation, showing clearly how long I'm there for. Filled out the I94 and Customs Declaration forms. *sigh* way too much paperwork.
When I enter canada I show my passport, customs form, and work permit, and that's it. No fifth degree about why I'm here, what I'm doing etc...

There is also the somewhat insular nature of the US. Most major cities are ok, but stray and you'll find people who really don't have a clue about the world at large. I think even a chav would have an idea that there are places outside the UK, even if it's just because they were sent on a nice holiday to spain as "punishment" for whatever crime they commited.

Bottom line, unless you know for sure you have a job offer and that you're doing something that no yank can do, or you're transferring from the UK office to the US office (good luck!) then I think you will find it very difficult indeed to get into the US.

If you want a US like country, then choose Canada
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