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27 March 2006, 08:48 PM
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The fact is Eastern Europeans work much harder than English people are more honest and generally are more skilled at their proffesion. Try and tell yourself otherwise if you like but any one who has used EU labour extensivley knows what the truth is.
27 March 2006, 09:31 PM
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Get rid of all those that are foreign or descended from foreigners and there will be NO people left in the country. This country was pretty much inhabited in the 'beginning' after all.
Anyone see the news stories about british 'nationals' not having as many kids as they used to and there'll be a mass pension crisis in the not too distance future. There's three things that all need to happen, a) higher retirement age (non of us here apart from pissy will be of retiring age before they're 70), b) higher taxation/pension payments and c) lots of immigration.
Anyone see the news stories about british 'nationals' not having as many kids as they used to and there'll be a mass pension crisis in the not too distance future. There's three things that all need to happen, a) higher retirement age (non of us here apart from pissy will be of retiring age before they're 70), b) higher taxation/pension payments and c) lots of immigration.
27 March 2006, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
The fact is Eastern Europeans work much harder than English people are more honest and generally are more skilled at their proffesion. Try and tell yourself otherwise if you like but any one who has used EU labour extensivley knows what the truth is.
27 March 2006, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Spring Heeled Jack
I would have thought a professional self made man who extensively drives a BMW X5, such as you, mite be more articulate...?
ps is "mite" a trap
damn newbie whippersnapper beat me to it
27 March 2006, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jasey
ps is "mite" a trap
He fits the stereotype though......
Rooonnneeyy..... LOL
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27 March 2006, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jasey
His Dad's the self made man
ps is "mite" a trap
ps is "mite" a trap
I am so chuffed that at last I have an identity people recognise on scoobynet. People are taking notice, I feel like I'm famous and all it took was a week or two of being a little obnoxious. You know you are really getting there when the spelling pedants come out to play. Getting reallt near to 1000 posts as well.
27 March 2006, 10:55 PM
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Thing is the government should be getting the lazy asswipes on the dole back to work,It is all well and good claiming we have a shortage of workers.But at the end of the day we have 1.3 million on the dole and 2.7 million on incapacity benefit 
28 March 2006, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
If all the foreigners where to disappear one day the countries economy would be ****ed. Instead of bitching about foreigners you should bitch abaout people who dont work full stop, regardless of where theyre from or theyre colour.
My doctors a foreigner so's my dentist, so are most the bus drivers and alot of the train drivers, corner shops run by foreigners, lots of african nurses down here and quite alot of african teachers too. Most cleaners these days are african too.
We just need to throw out the lazy *******s.
My doctors a foreigner so's my dentist, so are most the bus drivers and alot of the train drivers, corner shops run by foreigners, lots of african nurses down here and quite alot of african teachers too. Most cleaners these days are african too.
We just need to throw out the lazy *******s.
The way foreigners are being portrayed here,I see plenty of them on daily basis.They are whites and British( born and bred here),lazy and doley,druggies and scallies:sp:
Now,what can you say!
I told one of them the other day to clean my car and earn a decent tenner but they refused.
no further comments.
28 March 2006, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
I am so chuffed that at last I have an identity people recognise on scoobynet. People are taking notice, I feel like I'm famous and all it took was a week or two of being a little obnoxious. You know you are really getting there when the spelling pedants come out to play. Getting reallt near to 1000 posts as well.
Whatever bollox you're talking
28 March 2006, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
Thing is the government should be getting the lazy asswipes on the dole back to work,It is all well and good claiming we have a shortage of workers.But at the end of the day we have 1.3 million on the dole and 2.7 million on incapacity benefit
Too true, these should be back in work, dole/whatever handouts reduced or removed so they are incentivised to do so. Any unfilled vacancies can then be filled by immigrants who have entered the country legally and passed all health and security checks. Their pay will then have deductions for the costs of keeping them and getting them through the checks, etc.
As for filling skilled positions then trianing must be offerd to our own unemployed and then any other vacancies filled from immigrant workers with the correct skills.
28 March 2006, 07:04 AM
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Scrapping the "welfare" state is the only way forward.
If you want to live you have to earn.
Simple.
Charity can support the real needy scroungers can die.
If you want to live you have to earn.
Simple.
Charity can support the real needy scroungers can die.
28 March 2006, 07:15 AM
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Dispatches C4 - Living with Illegals
Did anyone see this on C4 last night?
I caught the last half of it. It appears that the UK holds 'mythical status' (according to one Somalian) and is still the place to head for the rest of europe is just seen as part route to the uk. They knew that if they could get to the uk then they could just 'dissappear' and find work and get paid.
The programme foccussed on a journo who attached himself to one particular group which where all young men 18-30 trying to enter the UK illegally. Not sure if this is a true reflection of immigratrion, illegal or otherwise and i doubt if the government is any wiser - certianly about the illegal side.
I wish i had caught the first part, does anyone know if it is being repeated?
I caught the last half of it. It appears that the UK holds 'mythical status' (according to one Somalian) and is still the place to head for the rest of europe is just seen as part route to the uk. They knew that if they could get to the uk then they could just 'dissappear' and find work and get paid.
The programme foccussed on a journo who attached himself to one particular group which where all young men 18-30 trying to enter the UK illegally. Not sure if this is a true reflection of immigratrion, illegal or otherwise and i doubt if the government is any wiser - certianly about the illegal side.
I wish i had caught the first part, does anyone know if it is being repeated?
28 March 2006, 07:56 AM
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I am a qualified heating engineer, i have domestic Acs ccn1, ckr1, htr1, wat1 met1, wau1, cen1. I have commercial quals also Codnco1, ciga1, cort1, icae1, icpn1, tpcp1a, cdga1. Basically this means i served my time at British gas in the early 90's i have 15 years experience and people who know what the codes mean know how qualified i am and i am currently unemployed. My quals have cost me £2400 in the last 12 months. My area of work is flooded with cheap european workers and 18 week wonders who the govenment brought in to fill a trade shortage but let it go to far. There driving down wages and have simply flooded the job market. I could find a job tomorrow my local council are looking for engineers but there paying £7.59 per hour. I have always earned £11-12 an hour and my mortgage and other outgoings are based around this kind of wage i cant afford to work for £7-8 an hour. I earned the £11-12 per hour 5-8 years ago it should be going up not down. Its a bad situation i have 3 friends who are also gas engineers who are unemployed at the moment. We need to get these cheap workers out quickly.
28 March 2006, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RR
I am a qualified heating engineer, i have domestic Acs ccn1, ckr1, htr1, wat1 met1, wau1, cen1. I have commercial quals also Codnco1, ciga1, cort1, icae1, icpn1, tpcp1a, cdga1. Basically this means i served my time at British gas in the early 90's i have 15 years experience and people who know what the codes mean know how qualified i am and i am currently unemployed. My quals have cost me £2400 in the last 12 months. My area of work is flooded with cheap european workers and 18 week wonders who the govenment brought in to fill a trade shortage but let it go to far. There driving down wages and have simply flooded the job market. I could find a job tomorrow my local council are looking for engineers but there paying £7.59 per hour. I have always earned £11-12 an hour and my mortgage and other outgoings are based around this kind of wage i cant afford to work for £7-8 an hour. I earned the £11-12 per hour 5-8 years ago it should be going up not down. Its a bad situation i have 3 friends who are also gas engineers who are unemployed at the moment. We need to get these cheap workers out quickly.
28 March 2006, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
This is not a dig at you RR but tradesmen have held people to ransom over the last 10 years or so. Builders/plumbers etc have been earning more than people who have spent years in higher education, and alot of that money is 'cash in hand' Its about time we had some competition in the market
28 March 2006, 06:54 PM
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He would be relived when it comes his way. Hes a doctor. Where in the UK do you live as I know anywhere outside of London plumbers get peanuts.
Im just gonna milk the plumbing cash cow for a couple more years and then get out and start my own business.
Anyone like crepes?
Im just gonna milk the plumbing cash cow for a couple more years and then get out and start my own business.
Anyone like crepes?
28 March 2006, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
He would be relived when it comes his way. Hes a doctor. Where in the UK do you live as I know anywhere outside of London plumbers get peanuts.
Im just gonna milk the plumbing cash cow for a couple more years and then get out and start my own business.
Anyone like crepes?
Im just gonna milk the plumbing cash cow for a couple more years and then get out and start my own business.
Anyone like crepes?
28 March 2006, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RR
I am a qualified heating engineer, i have domestic Acs ccn1, ckr1, htr1, wat1 met1, wau1, cen1. I have commercial quals also Codnco1, ciga1, cort1, icae1, icpn1, tpcp1a, cdga1. Basically this means i served my time at British gas in the early 90's i have 15 years experience and people who know what the codes mean know how qualified i am and i am currently unemployed. My quals have cost me £2400 in the last 12 months. My area of work is flooded with cheap european workers and 18 week wonders who the govenment brought in to fill a trade shortage but let it go to far. There driving down wages and have simply flooded the job market. I could find a job tomorrow my local council are looking for engineers but there paying £7.59 per hour. I have always earned £11-12 an hour and my mortgage and other outgoings are based around this kind of wage i cant afford to work for £7-8 an hour. I earned the £11-12 per hour 5-8 years ago it should be going up not down. Its a bad situation i have 3 friends who are also gas engineers who are unemployed at the moment. We need to get these cheap workers out quickly.
The vast majority of the population earns a lot less than £7.59 an hour. I wish I had the luxury of turning down that sort of wage. Maybe you should spend a little bit less on your car.
28 March 2006, 08:56 PM
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Skilled immigrants are needed in Europe to make up for the low birth rate - most of the population needs someone to pay their pensions when they retire.
The US has thrived on selective immigration afterall, hasn't it?
Suresh
The US has thrived on selective immigration afterall, hasn't it?
Suresh
28 March 2006, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RR
...currently unemployed.
...could find a job tomorrow my local council are looking for engineers but there paying £7.59 per hour.
...could find a job tomorrow my local council are looking for engineers but there paying £7.59 per hour.
28 March 2006, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
The vast majority of the population earns a lot less than £7.59 an hour. I wish I had the luxury of turning down that sort of wage. Maybe you should spend a little bit less on your car.
My 3rd year apprentice's are on a similar rate
28 March 2006, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jasey
Scrapping the "welfare" state is the only way forward.
If you want to live you have to earn.
Simple.
Charity can support the real needy scroungers can die.
If you want to live you have to earn.
Simple.
Charity can support the real needy scroungers can die.
Problem is that every f***er who can't claim their benefit will go out and rob the likes of us. If they can't get a job, then they do what they have to do.
Couldn't blame them.
Any parent will do whatever is necessary to support his family.
I have been lucky and never claimed benefit in any way.
My bonuses suffer the higher tax rate of the taxman. 6k end up with 3.4k.
Sucks, but we have to provide for the less well off, the Government says so!
29 March 2006, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by zip929
Agree totally mate.
Problem is that every f***er who can't claim their benefit will go out and rob the likes of us. If they can't get a job, then they do what they have to do.
Couldn't blame them.
Any parent will do whatever is necessary to support his family.
I have been lucky and never claimed benefit in any way.
My bonuses suffer the higher tax rate of the taxman. 6k end up with 3.4k.
Sucks, but we have to provide for the less well off, the Government says so!
Problem is that every f***er who can't claim their benefit will go out and rob the likes of us. If they can't get a job, then they do what they have to do.
Couldn't blame them.
Any parent will do whatever is necessary to support his family.
I have been lucky and never claimed benefit in any way.
My bonuses suffer the higher tax rate of the taxman. 6k end up with 3.4k.
Sucks, but we have to provide for the less well off, the Government says so!
29 March 2006, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jonc
Surely it would be better to swallow your pride and take the £7.59/hr job since its better than £0.00/hr and no job. Look for the better paid job while you have some income coming in. Look at it as total pay per year rather than just £/hour. Worked for me when I was contracting.
Cant wait for the summer and the world cup. BBq ale, fottie, sunshine and unlimited time off and getting paid £330-350 a week. Wahooo.
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29 March 2006, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
The fact is Eastern Europeans work much harder than English people are more honest and generally are more skilled at their proffesion. Try and tell yourself otherwise if you like but any one who has used EU labour extensivley knows what the truth is.
I think that statement is bo**ocks...
Personally,i would take a cut in wages..If my morgage company would take a cut in payments,if tax was cut off my petrol,if insurances didnt cost me £2000 a year..
Remember,because someone is prepared to work long hours,live 6 to a room and send every bit of cash earned "home",it isnt the right way to live.
Why cant we have the Auzzie rule of immigration...If your skint and have nothing to give to this country,then dont even think of coming here.Sounds fair to me..