logiclee

Tell that to the Judge.

Cheers
Lee

paulg1979

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The concrete is part of the roof. Are you sure you have been on a roof. I'm not even sure your an abseiler. So your on a flat roof, a few air conditioning units bolted to RSJ's but these are not quite in the place you would rig. The rest of the roof is flat. There paparpet wall is say 2 ft tall. What do you use?

Chip

Paul.
I bet you didnt expect the flack youve had over this. Still I suppose you only posted originally to impress a few which you clearly did.

I would imagine as you get a little older you will also become a bit more safety conscious. Most of us do. I just hope you manage to get there

Chip

Spoon

Paul, I was first!!

paulg1979

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I'm as safe as I can be chip. There really isn't much else you can do on the particular building. Dead weight trolleys are well liked in the abseiling industry. Cheers anyway Chip. At least i'm not getting abusive posts from you.

paulg1979

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Nice one Spoon. Didn't realise you put that.

Chip

I dont know anything about hanging from buildings but I do know that whatever I would anchor from would have to be fit for purpose, inspected and certificated , likewise the equipment I was using. That way I would have done all that is reasonably practical to cut out as much of the risk as possible.

Chip

Spoon

Chip, maybe have the building rebuilt to provide the necessary anchor points?

paulg1979

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Trolleys are tested yearly but we obviously do visual checks everytime we use them. They are tagged exactly the same as an eyebolt. Mosts buildings have latchway systems on their roofs and if they are out of date we refuse to work.

Spoon

If you fall are you known to be 'off your trolley'?

Chip

Err no, now your really being silly. Anchor points can be added to almost anything not just during the build process and can be tested on a regular basis to ensure that they conform to the required standards.

Chip

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paulg1979

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Nice one spoon.

Chip. I've been on a course to fit eyebolts and although are really safe I have heard stories of the pulling out. Theres only one way I would rig of an eyebolt and that is a downward pull. I'd never straight out. Even though your sharing the load they are still dodgy. Some cowboy companies who test them only test a few. Say every other one. Not good.

Spoon

Chip, I'm not being silly at all. We have Ben (Who was active here until the question of how he would do it), saying Paul was wrong. We also have yourself intimating similar, yet we still haven't had the answer to the question.

Chip

I was'nt necessarily referring to eyebolts.

Chip

paulg1979

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I've heard of that. I hope it doesn't work. I'd be out of work. Bit like that useless tucker poll system. It never leaves the windows looking shiney. I still reackon you can't beat the old fashion Applicator and squeegee.

Spoon

Chip, if you actually explain what you are referring to, and Ben could tell us how he would do i,t then we can all go home.

Had this been explained early on I reckon it would have been a 2 pager, 3 max.

Chip

Spoon,
I clearly stated In knew nothing about hanging from buildings but I do know that proper tested anchor points are what I would use. If youve ever seen a failure of lifting equipment ( which believe me I have) you would know why.


Chip

ben44

Spoon, A weight anchor with the correct A frame fitment would be the simpliest solution for that roof. Also I'd use a weight anchor thats inspected and tagged every 6 months.

I wasn't dodging your question BTW

paulg1979

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I know Chip. Just saying that what Ben thinks is safe isn't always right. You can't rely on anyone but yourself. I refuse to use cradles as I don't know who maintains them. But with my work my harness is checked 3 monthly but visually everyday and so are my ropes and all other equipment. What I use to rig is tested and I know is safe. Our ropes are logged and can only be used for 120 hours of use before replacing. Its a very safe industry and i'm safe too.

Spoon

Chip,
I know you clearly stated you knew nothing about hanging from a building, which made your interjection even more interesting.

I've only ever seen failure of equipment and boy was she angry.

Chip

Dont you read, I don't know what's used on roofs as I dont work from them.

Lifting equipment I use is a lot more substantial than anything Paul would ever use and I can assure it's adequate for the job.

Chip

paulg1979

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Its amazing how your replies were pretty quick but after that question it took a while. Its an amazing thing the internet. Alot of information about rigging. Well done.

Spoon

Ben, thanks for that although it actually means naff all to me except you have explained yourself, and my dinner was getting cold.

Chip

Spoon,
When youve seen 7 men fall to their death in front of you from a cradle you'll understand why I am so fussy when it comes to lifting equipment.

Chip

paulg1979

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I'm off to bed now guys. Girlfriends getting the hump and wondering why I should be explaining myself. I will check all posts tomorrow afternoon for an update.

ben44

Cheers Paul, I enjoyed my shower.

As for me telling you how to do your job........

One thing I will say, wear your hat, if you do take a bit of a fall or swing, it will probally save your life

ben44

Glad to be of help

moneys

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241 posts and he still wont tell you what he does or how he does it ffs paul f*ck him off mate

paulg1979

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Nice one. Shame they don't do thermal ones.