£1k track car What would you recommend
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Doesn't really, suppose you could use a modded austin allegro for the track too if you like
But you are right in saying, you could have almost anything, so long as it was safe.
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....keeping on with the 924 theme.
I know of someone who is building a 924 with a 450bhp 944 turbo engine. Wieghs about 1000kg.
I need to buy this car!
I know of someone who is building a 924 with a 450bhp 944 turbo engine. Wieghs about 1000kg.
I need to buy this car!
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In fairness I dont think a £1,000 safe track car could exist. Or if it did it wouldnt last long.
Even if you buy a car for £400 you still need to budget for cage, seats, belts, tyres, brakes and keeping it running at a minimum.....
On paper it will look like you can do it, but in practice I would be suprised...
Gary
Even if you buy a car for £400 you still need to budget for cage, seats, belts, tyres, brakes and keeping it running at a minimum.....
On paper it will look like you can do it, but in practice I would be suprised...
Gary
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Originally Posted by davyboy
....keeping on with the 924 theme.
I know of someone who is building a 924 with a 450bhp 944 turbo engine. Wieghs about 1000kg.
I need to buy this car!
I know of someone who is building a 924 with a 450bhp 944 turbo engine. Wieghs about 1000kg.
I need to buy this car!
I keep getting tempted by the 924 turbos and 2.5 n/a that keep appearing on ebay....
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Originally Posted by MooseRacer
Thats a fair bit of work to get the 944 motor upto 450bhp
I keep getting tempted by the 924 turbos and 2.5 n/a that keep appearing on ebay....
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Originally Posted by RB5_245
Also possibly ignored as in standard trim it's a VW engined 2.0 plug
Youll be telling me that they have VW door handles next.....
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I wouldnt touch either a Series 1 nor a Series 2 924 Turbo now. I nearly bought the (ex) Earl of March's 924 Carrera GT in 2000 though, before I came to my senses.....
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I'm sure most 944 Turbo, S2 and 968 owners will agree with you......the engines are crap.
I think the engines are a bit dull, but they are reliable, powerful and smooth......what more do you want.
...Strange......I used to think you knew what you were talking about.
I think the engines are a bit dull, but they are reliable, powerful and smooth......what more do you want.
...Strange......I used to think you knew what you were talking about.
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I was refering to crap/il-informed opinions, rather than crap engines. Even the so-called 'VW van engine' is superb (actually AUDI derived in its last incarntaion), it has a steel crank and rods and its built to extremely close tolerances. Its essentially a standard engine in the 93x cars; the only real differences are the pistons and the sodium filled exhaust valves. Other than that theyre identical in every relative respect even though tthe 93xs were assembled in Stuttgart rather than Neckarsulm (S rather than N in the VIN ).
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Originally Posted by GC8
Everyone has an opinion about four-cylinder Porsches and theyre mostly crap
I reads differently without beer glasses
I thought you were saying they were crap, but no, you were saying most other people think they are crap
Sorry about that
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Its not fantastic grammar is it? It was intended to read: [i]most people have an opinion about four-cylinder Porsches, and those opinions are usually il-informed[\i].
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Was that post directed towards me Dave? If so you must have misunderstood something that Ive said.
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Simon
Maybe it's just a good day for confusion all round lol
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Re the original - Question £1k track car What would you recommend
My brother has recently bought a nice little motor for £950 and is thinking it will be a fun cheap track car.
Its a 94 106 Rallye with a modified saxo VTS motor (cams etc) with 306 gti-6 front brakes and saxo VTS complete rear set up (brakes suspension).
It also has a set of compomotive MO's and a few other bits I can't remember.
I haven't been out in it yet but he said it flies and for the money is a total bargain - must have cost the lad who did the conversion a few quid!
His opinion is that is he tracks it and it gets damaged or breaks - so what the most he can lose is £950
Stephen
My brother has recently bought a nice little motor for £950 and is thinking it will be a fun cheap track car.
Its a 94 106 Rallye with a modified saxo VTS motor (cams etc) with 306 gti-6 front brakes and saxo VTS complete rear set up (brakes suspension).
It also has a set of compomotive MO's and a few other bits I can't remember.
I haven't been out in it yet but he said it flies and for the money is a total bargain - must have cost the lad who did the conversion a few quid!
His opinion is that is he tracks it and it gets damaged or breaks - so what the most he can lose is £950
Stephen
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Good call. Pug hatches are a safe bet as they are a great car to begin with.
No matter what you get you have to add:
Cage: £500 ish
Seats: £100 - £500
Harnesses: £100 - £300
Helmet: £100
Then brake pads wear out quickly, tyres.......
If it weren't for my track car I'd be rolling in cash. Worth it though.
No matter what you get you have to add:
Cage: £500 ish
Seats: £100 - £500
Harnesses: £100 - £300
Helmet: £100
Then brake pads wear out quickly, tyres.......
If it weren't for my track car I'd be rolling in cash. Worth it though.
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
Good call. Pug hatches are a safe bet as they are a great car to begin with.
No matter what you get you have to add:
Cage: £500 ish
Seats: £100 - £500
Harnesses: £100 - £300
Helmet: £100
Then brake pads wear out quickly, tyres.......
If it weren't for my track car I'd be rolling in cash. Worth it though.
No matter what you get you have to add:
Cage: £500 ish
Seats: £100 - £500
Harnesses: £100 - £300
Helmet: £100
Then brake pads wear out quickly, tyres.......
If it weren't for my track car I'd be rolling in cash. Worth it though.
But its not always the case - see my posts on page 1
"Seats 1 @ £30 (Cobreau GRP) 1 @ £19 (Cobreau Steel frame)
Harness £35 each 4 point
Cage 2nd hand 6 point bolt in £200
Nos - 2nd hand Bike kit £100 - Lightweight + controller £40 twisted sanity
Suspension - Leda 280lb springs & Koni shocks + Koni rears £100 total (barely used)
Quickshift £6
Spare wheels - £50 for 4 speedlines
Slicks £100 full set - ex clio cup series"
I might have sourced a Skip Brown Engine (160bhp) for it now too @ £200
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Originally Posted by Stephen F
Re the original - Question £1k track car What would you recommend
My brother has recently bought a nice little motor for £950 and is thinking it will be a fun cheap track car.
Its a 94 106 Rallye with a modified saxo VTS motor (cams etc) with 306 gti-6 front brakes and saxo VTS complete rear set up (brakes suspension).
It also has a set of compomotive MO's and a few other bits I can't remember.
I haven't been out in it yet but he said it flies and for the money is a total bargain - must have cost the lad who did the conversion a few quid!
His opinion is that is he tracks it and it gets damaged or breaks - so what the most he can lose is £950
Stephen
My brother has recently bought a nice little motor for £950 and is thinking it will be a fun cheap track car.
Its a 94 106 Rallye with a modified saxo VTS motor (cams etc) with 306 gti-6 front brakes and saxo VTS complete rear set up (brakes suspension).
It also has a set of compomotive MO's and a few other bits I can't remember.
I haven't been out in it yet but he said it flies and for the money is a total bargain - must have cost the lad who did the conversion a few quid!
His opinion is that is he tracks it and it gets damaged or breaks - so what the most he can lose is £950
Stephen
Absolute bargain
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I'm just going to throw in a suggestion :-
MK2 MR2 anyone...
MK2 MR2 anyone...
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I fancy a cheap track car too.
Have been looking around, and I want something with a fair bit of power as I think even a great handling 1.6 Gti, albeit great round corners, would bore me after a couple of days, so am considering Mi16s - they seem to go for anywhere between £2k and £4k - are they reliable? What do I need to look out for?
How about MR2 turbo import? RWD, 220+bhp the 200SX sounds a good bet, but again, hard to get for near £1k. Plus, these may be a little expensive to maintain. Have also considered a cheap old Scooby WRX - reliable enough for track use??
106 Gtis are good, if a little under-powered, but pretty light and quick.
Good thread this, some great ideas so far.
For those who have taken the plunge before now and bought a cheap track toy, how have you found it? Expensive to run or not? Things to look out for?
Have been looking around, and I want something with a fair bit of power as I think even a great handling 1.6 Gti, albeit great round corners, would bore me after a couple of days, so am considering Mi16s - they seem to go for anywhere between £2k and £4k - are they reliable? What do I need to look out for?
How about MR2 turbo import? RWD, 220+bhp the 200SX sounds a good bet, but again, hard to get for near £1k. Plus, these may be a little expensive to maintain. Have also considered a cheap old Scooby WRX - reliable enough for track use??
106 Gtis are good, if a little under-powered, but pretty light and quick.
Good thread this, some great ideas so far.
For those who have taken the plunge before now and bought a cheap track toy, how have you found it? Expensive to run or not? Things to look out for?
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Whats your budget for a year? Thats the important question
205GTi in standard form parts are cheap as are tyres and pads.
205 Mi16 Been to a good few track days where these have let go
Bigger jap turbo charged cars - parts are more expensive as are tyres and
pads
Vw golf again cheap to run and maintain
Ford of some kind - pretty cheap to run and maintain too.
So the big question isnt so much how much money you have to lay out upfront but how much you have to run it over the course of a season....
Gary
205GTi in standard form parts are cheap as are tyres and pads.
205 Mi16 Been to a good few track days where these have let go
Bigger jap turbo charged cars - parts are more expensive as are tyres and
pads
Vw golf again cheap to run and maintain
Ford of some kind - pretty cheap to run and maintain too.
So the big question isnt so much how much money you have to lay out upfront but how much you have to run it over the course of a season....
Gary
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AX!
Well, not as standard.
My FTO was recently written off (old lady pulled into my side). I got a cheap runabout to, well run about in...my budget was £1k. Got a modded AX with a saxo engine in. I feel like one of the "McDonald's rolling on 15's crew", but I have to say it's a good giggle to drive!
http://www.axownersclub.com/phpBB2/v...ic.php?t=10398
I wouldn't like to have a crash in it though. It's all ready for a cage, and wow such cheap insurance. £280 a year! :O
My FTO was recently written off (old lady pulled into my side). I got a cheap runabout to, well run about in...my budget was £1k. Got a modded AX with a saxo engine in. I feel like one of the "McDonald's rolling on 15's crew", but I have to say it's a good giggle to drive!
http://www.axownersclub.com/phpBB2/v...ic.php?t=10398
I wouldn't like to have a crash in it though. It's all ready for a cage, and wow such cheap insurance. £280 a year! :O
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Get down the salvage car auctions, i bought a Saxo VTS afew months ago for £800 just wanted a headlight and grill.
theres always cheap VTR's for around £500 mark, 205 gti's around £100, impreza sports from £300 up. you could get a uk turbo just over a grand.
Thats the way to go for a cheap track car i rekon.
theres always cheap VTR's for around £500 mark, 205 gti's around £100, impreza sports from £300 up. you could get a uk turbo just over a grand.
Thats the way to go for a cheap track car i rekon.
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I was briefly reading about this the other day in a mag, this was built for less than 1K, this was all i could find on the web:
and they are V6's
I wouldn't **** about myself trying to get something on track for a bag o' sand. Spend 5, and get something different, and decent. My money would go on a 250 HP VAG 1.8T/6sp shoehorned into the back of a 106 or similar. Weighs as much as a fart, and RWD
Twin Engined 164. A masterpeice of engineering brought to the event by it creater, independent Alfa Romeo specialist Gatwick Alfa.
and they are V6's
I wouldn't **** about myself trying to get something on track for a bag o' sand. Spend 5, and get something different, and decent. My money would go on a 250 HP VAG 1.8T/6sp shoehorned into the back of a 106 or similar. Weighs as much as a fart, and RWD