Hosepipe bans
06 April 2006, 10:21 AM
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Got this from a man at Thames water...Only hosepipes left on or unattended are banned..ie a sprinkler...You can wash your car using a hosepipe as long as you turn off the water when your are not using the hose...
Please can i use a hosepipe to fill the new 450 ltr fish tank up... 
dont fancy moving that much in buckets...
06 April 2006, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by EVOVI
Got this from a man at Thames water...Only hosepipes left on or unattended are banned..ie a sprinkler...You can wash your car using a hosepipe as long as you turn off the water when your are not using the hose...
06 April 2006, 11:24 AM
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It's "Cats & Dogs" here just now in Ecosse!
I think the biggest problem in the SE is the lack of catchment and leaky infrastructure. Get those issues sorted and the problem should be solved. Mind you, it's maybe easier said than done as this'll not happen overnight.
There's plenty of precipitation about but you have to harness and retain it.
K.
I think the biggest problem in the SE is the lack of catchment and leaky infrastructure. Get those issues sorted and the problem should be solved. Mind you, it's maybe easier said than done as this'll not happen overnight.
There's plenty of precipitation about but you have to harness and retain it.
K.
06 April 2006, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by EVOVI
Got this from a man at Thames water...Only hosepipes left on or unattended are banned..ie a sprinkler...You can wash your car using a hosepipe as long as you turn off the water when your are not using the hose...
"There is now a ban on the use of hosepipes or sprinklers for the watering of private (i.e. domestic) gardens, or for the washing of private cars, caravans or trailers. It is the first time in 15 years that Thames Water has implemented a ban.
The ban came into effect on Monday 3rd April 2006. Please see our frequently asked questions about the hosepipe and sprinkler ban to find out more. "
06 April 2006, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by EVOVI
Got this from a man at Thames water...Only hosepipes left on or unattended are banned..ie a sprinkler...You can wash your car using a hosepipe as long as you turn off the water when your are not using the hose...
You cannot use a hosepipe or pressure water to wash your car, even if you do turn it off after washing.
you can, however, use a pressure washer to clean your driveway and windows
how fecking stupid is that !! i will use just as much water cleaning my windows and driveway as i would on my car.. in fact my driveway is bloody long so a lot more than the car.like someone else said, i will be washing my driveway and accidently go too far and maybe spray my car..whoops
idiots, changing their story all the time.
I think i will be flouting this ruling very shortly
06 April 2006, 02:50 PM
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But i bet the council still use 1000000000000 of gallons on the flower displays around britain and what about the road cleaners they will use 100000000 of gallons aswell ?, but thats ok coss we will foot that bill 
06 April 2006, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by OP
Just been reading that customers are liable for a fine of £1000 if they use a hosepipe. Bearing in mind that water may be metered and therefore paid for, what authority do water companies use to envoke such a fine?
06 April 2006, 03:14 PM
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OP..guessing that means opening post??
anyway this thread never really strayed off topic too much as it was still to do with the ban and ban related issues, though questions on enforcing the ban never did get answered. probably because the water companies are just as vague in answering that question on their faq pages...
anyway this thread never really strayed off topic too much as it was still to do with the ban and ban related issues, though questions on enforcing the ban never did get answered. probably because the water companies are just as vague in answering that question on their faq pages...
06 April 2006, 03:24 PM
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Well I've no idea, but I'm going to guess that they work on breach of contract. The contract will have small print that says they have the power to limit consumption during harsh times and will therefore penalise people who go over that consumption (or use hosepipes, or whatever).
If they're private companies, I don't see how they can use local bye-laws, that's for public councils.
I'd be curious to know the answer though.
If they're private companies, I don't see how they can use local bye-laws, that's for public councils.
I'd be curious to know the answer though.
06 April 2006, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SwissTony
OP..guessing that means opening post??
06 April 2006, 04:03 PM
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"what authority do water companies use to envoke such a fine?"
Section 76 of the Water Industry Act 1991:
76.—(1) If a water undertaker is of the opinion that a serious deficiency of water available for distribution by that undertaker exists or is threatened, that undertaker may, for such period as it thinks necessary, prohibit or restrict, as respects the whole or any part of its area, the use for the purpose of—
(a) watering private gardens; or
(b) washing private motor cars,
of any water supplied by that undertaker and drawn through a hosepipe or similar apparatus.
(2) A water undertaker imposing a prohibition or restriction under this section shall, before it comes into force, give public notice of it, and of the date on which it will come into force, in two or more newspapers circulating in the locality affected by the prohibition or restriction.
(3) Any person who, at a time when a prohibition or restriction under this section is in force, contravenes its provisions shall be guilty of an offence and liable, on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.
(4) Where a prohibition or restriction is imposed by a water undertaker under this section, charges made by the undertaker for the use of a hosepipe or similar apparatus shall be subject to a reasonable reduction and, in the case of a charge paid in advance, the undertaker shall make any necessary repayment or adjustment.
(5) In this section "private motor car" means any mechanically propelled vehicle intended or adapted for use on roads other than—
(a) a public service vehicle, within the meaning of the [1981 c. 14.] Public Passenger Vehicles Act 1981; or
(b) a goods vehicle within the meaning of the [1988 c. 52.] Road Traffic Act 1988,
and includes any vehicle drawn by a private motor car.
Section 76 of the Water Industry Act 1991:
76.—(1) If a water undertaker is of the opinion that a serious deficiency of water available for distribution by that undertaker exists or is threatened, that undertaker may, for such period as it thinks necessary, prohibit or restrict, as respects the whole or any part of its area, the use for the purpose of—
(a) watering private gardens; or
(b) washing private motor cars,
of any water supplied by that undertaker and drawn through a hosepipe or similar apparatus.
(2) A water undertaker imposing a prohibition or restriction under this section shall, before it comes into force, give public notice of it, and of the date on which it will come into force, in two or more newspapers circulating in the locality affected by the prohibition or restriction.
(3) Any person who, at a time when a prohibition or restriction under this section is in force, contravenes its provisions shall be guilty of an offence and liable, on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.
(4) Where a prohibition or restriction is imposed by a water undertaker under this section, charges made by the undertaker for the use of a hosepipe or similar apparatus shall be subject to a reasonable reduction and, in the case of a charge paid in advance, the undertaker shall make any necessary repayment or adjustment.
(5) In this section "private motor car" means any mechanically propelled vehicle intended or adapted for use on roads other than—
(a) a public service vehicle, within the meaning of the [1981 c. 14.] Public Passenger Vehicles Act 1981; or
(b) a goods vehicle within the meaning of the [1988 c. 52.] Road Traffic Act 1988,
and includes any vehicle drawn by a private motor car.
06 April 2006, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
"what authority do water companies use to envoke such a fine?"
Section 76 of the Water Industry Act 1991:
76.—(1) If a water undertaker is of the opinion that a serious deficiency of water available for distribution by that undertaker exists or is threatened, that undertaker may, for such period as it thinks necessary, prohibit or restrict, as respects the whole or any part of its area, the use for the purpose of—
(a) watering private gardens; or
(b) washing private motor cars,
of any water supplied by that undertaker and drawn through a hosepipe or similar apparatus.
(2) A water undertaker imposing a prohibition or restriction under this section shall, before it comes into force, give public notice of it, and of the date on which it will come into force, in two or more newspapers circulating in the locality affected by the prohibition or restriction.
(3) Any person who, at a time when a prohibition or restriction under this section is in force, contravenes its provisions shall be guilty of an offence and liable, on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.
(4) Where a prohibition or restriction is imposed by a water undertaker under this section, charges made by the undertaker for the use of a hosepipe or similar apparatus shall be subject to a reasonable reduction and, in the case of a charge paid in advance, the undertaker shall make any necessary repayment or adjustment.
(5) In this section "private motor car" means any mechanically propelled vehicle intended or adapted for use on roads other than—
(a) a public service vehicle, within the meaning of the [1981 c. 14.] Public Passenger Vehicles Act 1981; or
(b) a goods vehicle within the meaning of the [1988 c. 52.] Road Traffic Act 1988,
and includes any vehicle drawn by a private motor car.
Section 76 of the Water Industry Act 1991:
76.—(1) If a water undertaker is of the opinion that a serious deficiency of water available for distribution by that undertaker exists or is threatened, that undertaker may, for such period as it thinks necessary, prohibit or restrict, as respects the whole or any part of its area, the use for the purpose of—
(a) watering private gardens; or
(b) washing private motor cars,
of any water supplied by that undertaker and drawn through a hosepipe or similar apparatus.
(2) A water undertaker imposing a prohibition or restriction under this section shall, before it comes into force, give public notice of it, and of the date on which it will come into force, in two or more newspapers circulating in the locality affected by the prohibition or restriction.
(3) Any person who, at a time when a prohibition or restriction under this section is in force, contravenes its provisions shall be guilty of an offence and liable, on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.
(4) Where a prohibition or restriction is imposed by a water undertaker under this section, charges made by the undertaker for the use of a hosepipe or similar apparatus shall be subject to a reasonable reduction and, in the case of a charge paid in advance, the undertaker shall make any necessary repayment or adjustment.
(5) In this section "private motor car" means any mechanically propelled vehicle intended or adapted for use on roads other than—
(a) a public service vehicle, within the meaning of the [1981 c. 14.] Public Passenger Vehicles Act 1981; or
(b) a goods vehicle within the meaning of the [1988 c. 52.] Road Traffic Act 1988,
and includes any vehicle drawn by a private motor car.
48 posts but we got there in the end!
07 April 2006, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Lum
Surely you'd have to be tried in a criminal court in order for them to actually impose the fine.
Bill of Rights and all that.
Bill of Rights and all that.
07 April 2006, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Lum
Surely you'd have to be tried in a criminal court in order for them to actually impose the fine.
Bill of Rights and all that.
Bill of Rights and all that.
07 April 2006, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by MattW
Fixed penalty for speeding, mobile phone when driving, public order offence, litter, etc etc blows that theory.
07 April 2006, 11:55 AM
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Up here they're pronounced "horsepipe bans" as such no-one in the north west could care less as not many of us are rich enough own horses (unlike you wealthy southerners 
), least of all ones that can play the pipes 
Anyway Im off to run a bath without the use of a plug... Will check on it in about a week
), least of all ones that can play the pipes Anyway Im off to run a bath without the use of a plug... Will check on it in about a week
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