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07 April 2006, 05:09 PM
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No wonder ebay is full of tossers making all their money out of postage costs. The profit/income is supposed to come from the sale of the item, not shipping 
Shipping is a cost, not a profit maker.
Shipping is a cost, not a profit maker.
07 April 2006, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
If its a business then fine you charge but for an individual selling items i'm sorry but you want to sell the item so you put the effort in making sure it gets to the buyer on time and packed properly.
No wonder ebay is full of tossers making all their money out of postage costs. The profit/income is supposed to come from the sale of the item, not shipping Shipping is a cost, not a profit maker.
No wonder ebay is full of tossers making all their money out of postage costs. The profit/income is supposed to come from the sale of the item, not shipping
Shipping is a cost, not a profit maker.
07 April 2006, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
If you are doing it as a business yes it does. If you are doing it as a private sale then no it doesn't.
07 April 2006, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
like peeps buying xbox`s on the launch day and flogging them on for profit?
07 April 2006, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
like peeps buying xbox`s on the launch day and flogging them on for profit?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-x-MADONNA-WE...QQcmdZViewItem
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07 April 2006, 05:55 PM
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If you're time outside of your normal employment has no value to you, then as I previously stated, I'd like to take advantage of your free time.
07 April 2006, 06:02 PM
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would you rather bid on something that looked lower but had a bumped up postage price by a few quid, or something that was higher in the first place with a cheap postage cost?
07 April 2006, 06:44 PM
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so let me get this straight
because id hate to get it wrong.......
you are a tastemaker dj on powers list and which is it
1.they sent you a promo of the tenaglia track against the labels wishes ?
2. the head of power lied to me on the phone?
you are talking **** and have been found out
things that make you go hmmmm
a few people wanted to know by the way who you were as that track hasnt been serviced
please speak on this
because id hate to get it wrong.......
you are a tastemaker dj on powers list and which is it
1.they sent you a promo of the tenaglia track against the labels wishes ?
2. the head of power lied to me on the phone?
you are talking **** and have been found out
things that make you go hmmmm
a few people wanted to know by the way who you were as that track hasnt been serviced
please speak on this
07 April 2006, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
No its not free time, you are getting the money from the sale of the item you want to sell. The postage cost is that, a direct cost to put the item in the post such as a stamp and an envelope. As an individual you want to sell the item, you make sure the reserve price is high enough for the bid to cover your time for bothering. Postage costs are not for that purpose. Postage costs are a direct cost. Your time taken to post it is not a direct cost, there is no cost associated with it, only a value placed on your time by yourself. That is an indirect cost to you that should be covered by the sale.
07 April 2006, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
The cost is to cover Postage, Packaging and Handling. I'll do the P&P at cost as long as the postie collects the package from my door, but while it's using MY time and MY petrol, I'll charge for it. If you don't like the terms of my sale, don't buy from me, that simple, plenty of others are happy to.
Packaged up 23 records and some other stuff today all for ebay...when sending recorded it takes bloody ages to fill in the forms (and customs forms for international stuff)...then have to drive to the post office, park and all the rest of it. For the odd thing then its no big deal, but when selling a lot of stuff it really is time consuming.
Its not like Im marking it up by £1/£2 or anything....but I see no problem with charging £2.25 or £2.50 when it costs £1.80 to send. In fact, if you factor in the cost of packing materials and stuff it probably evens out.
Postage costs are clearly stated- if you dont like then dont buy.
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07 April 2006, 07:21 PM
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I was just really getting into that....
Anyways-back on topic....
Ive found that if i advertised 2 identical dvds ---one for buy it now at 99p with the postage clearly marked at £3.99 and the other on a buy it now for £3.99 with postage clearly at 99p, the one with the higher postage allways sells and the other one will hardly get looked at.
Anyways-back on topic....
Ive found that if i advertised 2 identical dvds ---one for buy it now at 99p with the postage clearly marked at £3.99 and the other on a buy it now for £3.99 with postage clearly at 99p, the one with the higher postage allways sells and the other one will hardly get looked at.
07 April 2006, 07:35 PM
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Best thing I have ever used for one of my ebay accounts is Royal Mail PPI, put a number 2 stamp in the corner of parcel with my 5 digit account number put in bag wait for postie to collect.
No price any where on parcel
i use the automated feedback system because as soon as you start doing lots of sales you get litreally hundreds of emails saying "wheres my feedback" over and over and over and over again, drives me mad!
Automated feedback only works on positive feedback you have to leave neutrals and negatives manually.
If you dont like the postage charge DONT BUY IT, dont assume that because the postage charge is high that it will be sent by concorde!
There is no confusion over postal prices, there is no excuse after you had bought something on ebay, because when you buy the item it tells you the cost of postage and the cost of the item and asks you to confirm twice.
If you dont like it then **** off of ebay! and stop driving me mad!
No price any where on parcel
i use the automated feedback system because as soon as you start doing lots of sales you get litreally hundreds of emails saying "wheres my feedback" over and over and over and over again, drives me mad!
Automated feedback only works on positive feedback you have to leave neutrals and negatives manually.
If you dont like the postage charge DONT BUY IT, dont assume that because the postage charge is high that it will be sent by concorde!
There is no confusion over postal prices, there is no excuse after you had bought something on ebay, because when you buy the item it tells you the cost of postage and the cost of the item and asks you to confirm twice.
If you dont like it then **** off of ebay! and stop driving me mad!
07 April 2006, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by easyrider
I was just really getting into that....
Anyways-back on topic....
Ive found that if i advertised 2 identical dvds ---one for buy it now at 99p with the postage clearly marked at £3.99 and the other on a buy it now for £3.99 with postage clearly at 99p, the one with the higher postage allways sells and the other one will hardly get looked at.
Anyways-back on topic....
Ive found that if i advertised 2 identical dvds ---one for buy it now at 99p with the postage clearly marked at £3.99 and the other on a buy it now for £3.99 with postage clearly at 99p, the one with the higher postage allways sells and the other one will hardly get looked at.
Just another 2 penneth, I'll go back to my Stella now
07 April 2006, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
Cheers for the replies. I will leave feedback then. One them will get a comment for charging me £2.99 for postage when it was 68p and a 50p jiffy bag lol but thats my only gripe.
07 April 2006, 08:15 PM
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Ive just had something similar.....
I bid on and won(only saw the item in its last 5 mins) a visor for my crash helmet, but the auction was originally for 2 visors. Half way though the auction, the seller realised that one visor was not as described and amended the listing to show that only one visor was being sold.
The postage in the auction was for £5 (quite expensive for two light visors, but I thought that by the time decent packaging was used, there wouldnt be too much difference). I won the auction and mailed the seller to ask what the new postage would be...and to my suprise his response was "the postage costs include my fees and i know its halved but the weight isnt really affected
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Usually im fine in paying an extra few pennies on the postage, but I worked out how much its likely to cost to post a single visor and it was under 70p or even £1.30 recorded and thats 1st class. So that means he would make £4.40 !!!
On the other side of the coin, I bought a thick jumper last week, only cost £2.20, postage was charged at £2.50. It came through the post well wrapped and the postage label said that it cost him £4.75 to post it, plus the cost of packaging.
I bid on and won(only saw the item in its last 5 mins) a visor for my crash helmet, but the auction was originally for 2 visors. Half way though the auction, the seller realised that one visor was not as described and amended the listing to show that only one visor was being sold.
The postage in the auction was for £5 (quite expensive for two light visors, but I thought that by the time decent packaging was used, there wouldnt be too much difference). I won the auction and mailed the seller to ask what the new postage would be...and to my suprise his response was "the postage costs include my fees and i know its halved but the weight isnt really affected
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Usually im fine in paying an extra few pennies on the postage, but I worked out how much its likely to cost to post a single visor and it was under 70p or even £1.30 recorded and thats 1st class. So that means he would make £4.40 !!!
On the other side of the coin, I bought a thick jumper last week, only cost £2.20, postage was charged at £2.50. It came through the post well wrapped and the postage label said that it cost him £4.75 to post it, plus the cost of packaging.
07 April 2006, 08:38 PM
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The auction was won for £12, but its second hand used, there isnt a 'normal' price.
Brand new sealed unused unmarked undamaged etc etc would be £30+
So before you go spouting that I shouldnt moan as its still cheaper than new, remember..its not new and the only value of second hand items is the price that the buyer will pay for it.
Brand new sealed unused unmarked undamaged etc etc would be £30+
So before you go spouting that I shouldnt moan as its still cheaper than new, remember..its not new and the only value of second hand items is the price that the buyer will pay for it.
07 April 2006, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Warwick-hunt
the final value fee is added on that £2.99 postage and paypal fees are applied so if something costs exactly £1.18 to post and you charge that amount on your ebay ad, then you actually lose money once the fees are sorted, so i think its only right to add more to postage costs
Are you saying ebay also charges fees on the postage costs as well as the winning bid price? Because that is not how I understand it to work. Ebay charge fees based on the final bid price, not on the final price including postage?
07 April 2006, 08:47 PM
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but paypal take a percentage of the full payment total when you recieve it -not just the item price total...so rightly or wrongly, a percentage of the postage is going to paypal.
07 April 2006, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
To me that is just wrong though. The fees charged by Paypal and ebay for selling the item should be coming out of the money you get for selling the item. They are the costs for advertising it etc. Why should those costs be included in the postage price? Why should the buyer be paying for your advertising costs on top of the price they pay for the item? Since when did postage costs mean anything but the cost of packaging and stamp price?
Are you saying ebay also charges fees on the postage costs as well as the winning bid price? Because that is not how I understand it to work. Ebay charge fees based on the final bid price, not on the final price including postage?
Are you saying ebay also charges fees on the postage costs as well as the winning bid price? Because that is not how I understand it to work. Ebay charge fees based on the final bid price, not on the final price including postage?
, you need to get over it, people are going to charge more than it costs to post, final. They make a bigger profit, you get what you want. As I said before, don't like... don't bid!!
07 April 2006, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Also, some of the sellers use eBay's automated feedback software that doesn't leave feedback until the buyer has.
With postage costs, eBay do allow sellers to charge for a packers time and time spent going to the Post Office on top of the actual postage cost and materials.
Even so, £2.99 is steep.
With postage costs, eBay do allow sellers to charge for a packers time and time spent going to the Post Office on top of the actual postage cost and materials.
Even so, £2.99 is steep.
jiffy bags cost around £1.50
you also forget that parking costs an additional £1
2.99 is fair
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07 April 2006, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
Cheers for the replies. I will leave feedback then. One them will get a comment for charging me £2.99 for postage when it was 68p and a 50p jiffy bag lol but thats my only gripe.
You see an item you want. Decide what you want to pay in total. Deduct the postage amount from this and you have your max bid. Simple really.
The buyer should leave feedback first, then the seller.
08 April 2006, 04:27 AM
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I see both sides of this arguement, but on that reckoning what about the time you spent creating the listing, the time spent answering emails etc etc. Also if buyer pays by cheque this has to be banked, costs incurred for doing that ? All this is done in your 'free' time so should buyers be paying for that too ? I suppose you could go on and on 
08 April 2006, 09:42 AM
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Since when did postage costs mean anything but the cost of packaging and stamp price?
08 April 2006, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by mart360
jiffy bags cost around £1.50
you also forget that parking costs an additional £1
2.99 is fair
Mart
you also forget that parking costs an additional £1
2.99 is fair
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a) A jiffy bag at £1.50 means you've been robbed. The jiffy bag here was quoted at 50p anyway, so that is the point in question, not some figure you decide to use.
b) Parking charges, well, no comment.