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Old 07 April 2006, 10:54 PM
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Firstly lexus lights should be criminal.
The problem is people modding these cars with dodgy bolt on body kits and bad graphics and neon lights and 3 ton of MDF in the boot.
I can kinda understand the nova brigade doing this to their motors cos they need something to show their mates in the mcd's car park but the impreza used to be a car that only people doing well for themselfs could have and respected the fact that it is a truely great car and had it for what it was and not what they could do with it.
But maybe the problem is the nova boys have now moved on.
Old 07 April 2006, 10:56 PM
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bizarelly in a cruel twist of fate, the nova is gaining credibility as a classic hot hatch while the scooby is in chav infested free fall.
Old 07 April 2006, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by WRX-NZ


Except the Legacy GT wagon
The dream car I never had - Legacy quad cam turbo wagon
Old 07 April 2006, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tath
the nova is gaining credibility as a classic hot hatch
Is it ****.
Old 07 April 2006, 11:04 PM
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the only bit i don't like on the 06 is the rear lights other than that i like it a lot, the old classic is exactly that old and a classic bit to 90's for my liking now.
Old 07 April 2006, 11:06 PM
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The nova is gaining classic cred but that is true with a lot of hot or luke warm hatches and that is fine because most cars have their following but things have to be done within reason or not at all. Small hot hatches can be great if modded correctly and sutley but some people go way way over the top and also in completly the wrong direction.
Its just a case I think of knowing either where to stop or knowing that uve got a great car to start with and leaving it as it should be.
Old 07 April 2006, 11:09 PM
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classics will be back in fasion in 10 years time

needs to get worse before it gets better lol
Old 07 April 2006, 11:11 PM
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Very very true.
They will have their day once again.
Old 07 April 2006, 11:17 PM
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What the hell has a Nova got to do with a thread about Impreza sales

Maybe you should log on to Vauxhall.com

Nova, a classic
Old 07 April 2006, 11:23 PM
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lol, you think the japseye is a feckup (yes it is a step backwards from the blobeye), you just know the next one if any of the concepts are anything to go by is going to be complete and utter pants

I realy hope I am wrong but I can see my defection to the darkside looming. Just compare the evoX concept to the subaru one. I showed a collegue at work and he nearly threw up looking at the subaru.

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Old 07 April 2006, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by unfeasablylargegonads
lol, you think the japseye is a feckup (yes it is a step backwards from the blobeye), you just know the next one if any of the concepts are anything to go by is going to be complete and utter pants

I realy hope I am wrong but I can see my defection to the darkside looming. Just compare the evoX conept to the subaru one. I showed a collegue at work and he nearly threw up looking at the subaru.
Got to admit if the Evo X turns out like the pictures now show then I'll be first in line.
Old 07 April 2006, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
Which in turn live in the shadow of the great RX turbo and Legacy

There is no such thing as a beautiful Subaru.
I so disagree .. the Classic is sheer functional beauty in it's purest form!

Old 07 April 2006, 11:38 PM
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with the way sub are doing to the poor thing, and a 07 model lining up (which if it looks similar to this)

i'm a mitsi man soon,

the evo x looks kewl.

the only decent looking impreza after the classic was the blobeye,

and **** knows what sake the designer has been drinking, but we should be getting these hot stuff at asda soon
Old 07 April 2006, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by nik52wrx
What the hell has a Nova got to do with a thread about Impreza sales

Maybe you should log on to Vauxhall.com

Nova, a classic
The classic is becoming what the nova was to the 90s and the saxo to the 00s I'm afraid mate.
Old 07 April 2006, 11:47 PM
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Oh the great Pslewis is back,Now bugger off.

The classic was a great car,yes they made a mistake with the headlights of the "bugeye"(yes i have one of these) the "hawk eye" was alot better,but think of the comments that were made at the time when the "better looking" cars came out
The "hawk eye"HAD to be an improvement ,fact, COULD IT BE WORSE??.

I think Subaru will live for a long time yet,Even though the car of today doesn't look that good, they will still make a comeback.
Old 07 April 2006, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by justanotherperson
I think Subaru will live for a long time yet,Even though the car of today doesn't look that good, they will still make a comeback.
I've made this point before, but Subaru are actually doing better than ever - just check out their sales figures and also the potential from their co-operation with Toyota.
Old 08 April 2006, 12:02 AM
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IMO, a nice idea for Subaru would be to continue to develop the bigger "more upmarket" new age Imprezas (possibly under a different name), while returning to core values as Uncle Tony says with a lighter 'new classic'. Any news on the crazy prodrive thing yet?
Old 08 April 2006, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by tath
IMO, a nice idea for Subaru would be to continue to develop the bigger "more upmarket" new age Imprezas (possibly under a different name), while returning to core values as Uncle Tony says with a lighter 'new classic'. Any news on the crazy prodrive thing yet?
The core values of our all-wheel-drive product are safety, reliability, confidence, control, value and versatility. Our customers consider these to be important attributes. Subaru customers have active lifestyles; they are technologically sophisticated; and they champion environmental issues and education.
I think you'll find the performance and rally related cars are not core to Subarus overall world sales. It's polarised in the UK but things such as the Leone, Legacy (Liberty), Justy and Tribeca are hugely successful in many other countries. In Australia the Legacy is far more popular than the Impreza ever was (Outback too)
Old 08 April 2006, 12:19 AM
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If you had a pole amongst the worlds top motor journalists & style gurus & asked them to pick the top 10.....no wait, make that the top 50 most beautiful cars do you think a Subaru would be in the list?

The Impreza has lived off its rally pedigree & was one of the first cars to give the customer a taste of that world of performnce with an affordable,reliable road going version.

Unfortunately we live in an ever more style conscious world & now there are are other cars with performance & looks.Call it form over function or style over content but that's todays world.
Old 08 April 2006, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
I think you'll find the performance and rally related cars are not core to Subarus overall world sales. It's polarised in the UK but things such as the Leone, Legacy (Liberty), Justy and Tribeca are hugely successful in many other countries. In Australia the Legacy is far more popular than the Impreza ever was (Outback too)
I meant the Impreza's core values not Subaru's Sorry. Say Impreza or Subaru to me and i still think of a classic and probably always will...

I agree with you and Subaru - a lightweight 4wd road rally car is not what most people want anymore, if they ever did So they should continue to concentrate on Leggies, Tribecas whatever... Just spare a thought for us hardcore fundamentalists and build a smaller 4wd flat four turbo! I wish
Old 08 April 2006, 12:44 AM
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I thought that everybody did want a light, quick rally rep which is why Subaru as a manufacturer flourished on rallying success.
Hence its not only farmers driving them.
I speak as a rally fan which is what got me interested in Impreza's.


[quote=tath]

I agree with you and Subaru - a lightweight 4wd road rally car is not what most people want anymore, if they ever did
Old 08 April 2006, 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by nik52wrx
I thought that everybody did want a light, quick rally rep which is why Subaru as a manufacturer flourished on rallying success.
Hence its not only farmers driving them.
That is one thing that really irks me about Subaru in the UK, it is definitely the only country where they have developed that reputation
Old 08 April 2006, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
That is one thing that really irks me about Subaru in the UK, it is definitely the only country where they have developed that reputation
wouldn't have sold a thing here if they hadn't though... You saying that explains a bit more why their design ethos is heading the way it is though
Old 08 April 2006, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by tath
wouldn't have sold a thing here if they hadn't though... You saying that explains a bit more why their design ethos is heading the way it is though
During the 80's they always had almost an "Apple" like reputation, a bit left of centre but high quality. Popular with the skiing set.

http://www.cars101.com/subaru/subaruad1980a.JPG
Old 08 April 2006, 01:24 AM
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like a japanese citroen lmao

The transition from Jap crap to Audi/BM competitor will take time, if that's what they're trying to do.

Also popular with welshmen who needed to coral feral sheep i believe.
Old 08 April 2006, 01:38 AM
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I must admit I wasn't sure about the MY06 at first from looking at various photos.
Having now seen & test driven an 06 STI in the flesh I was completly blown away with the looks & the sheer capability of it! The new front looks really aggresive & the handling is superb!
My only criticism is the slight loss of the burble, but from reading other threads on here that can be easily remedied with a new back box!

So after 40 minutes blatting around the Saddleworth moors it was bye bye 03 WRX PPP & hello 06 STI! Roll on next week!

I think some people on here should reserve judgement about the 06 until they get chance to have a play & take a closer look!

It's not the classic, bugeye or blobeye and it's not trying to be!
Time moves on Mr Lewis!

p.s They are'nt bringing out any offers out on the STI are they????
Old 08 April 2006, 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Joggerboy
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Having now seen & test driven an 06 STI in the flesh I was completly blown away with the looks & the sheer capability of it! The new front looks really aggresive & the handling is superb!

I think some people on here should reserve judgement about the 06 until they get chance to have a play & take a closer look!
I have to agree I went from MY99 4dr to MY02Sti to MY99Type R to MY06Sti.

The Type R was quick, light, handled well and if you wanted pictures of yourself next to the car it was far better looking But I much prefered my MY02Sti and my biggest mistake was going back in time to the Type R.

The only Classic Subaru is a 22B all the rest are just old Subaru's IMHO


Originally Posted by Joggerboy
Time moves on Mr Lewis!
Also agree

Tony
Old 08 April 2006, 09:32 AM
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Bought our Scoob last year MY05 WRX 300. The wife had refused to even consider one but came out in one just to compare the performance per £, and give us a baseline for comparison at other speedy cars.

During the test drive we were both hooked. Signed on the dotted line there and then. Last night enjoyed a long drive on some smashing A roads . Got home, feeling that for the money, we had got the best thing on 4 wheels. Stepped out of the car, took a look and thought 'that is one ugly looking thing, but I love it!'

I love my mates thinking I'm a chav! (knocking on the door of 40, it seems cool to be a bit less than mature for my age)
I love the feeling of the thing pulling like a train when putting the foot down a bit.
I love the way it glues to the road in bends.
I love the noise of that engine when it's turned over - and that burble.
I love the 'made in china' interior - it doesn't try to be something it isn't: it's obvious where the money has been spent.
I love the blue mica - a bit of sun, spit and polish and there's no finer colour on the road.
I love how it screams LOOK AT ME! And makes no apologies for it- blue paint, gold wheels, a big bonnet scoop and a spoiler you could use as a breakfast table. Brill!
I love the way the local youngsters look at a juxtaposition as I drive past: old man-young man's car, what's that about?

Sure I have a few gripes, but in a society who's hobby it is to stand up and be negative, I can overlook the gripes and say I love my car!


So does the low sales thing bother me? Err.........nope. Will I be beating a path to the Scoob dealer for my next car..........As I say, for all it's imperfections, I'm hooked

Andy
Old 08 April 2006, 09:40 AM
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I can go along with that.
I'm on my second Impreza in less than 14 months so i guess i'm hooked as well


Originally Posted by andyfish
Bought our Scoob last year MY05 WRX 300. The wife had refused to even consider one but came out in one just to compare the performance per £, and give us a baseline for comparison at other speedy cars.

During the test drive we were both hooked. Signed on the dotted line there and then. Last night enjoyed a long drive on some smashing A roads . Got home, feeling that for the money, we had got the best thing on 4 wheels. Stepped out of the car, took a look and thought 'that is one ugly looking thing, but I love it!'

I love my mates thinking I'm a chav! (knocking on the door of 40, it seems cool to be a bit less than mature for my age)
I love the feeling of the thing pulling like a train when putting the foot down a bit.
I love the way it glues to the road in bends.
I love the noise of that engine when it's turned over - and that burble.
I love the 'made in china' interior - it doesn't try to be something it isn't: it's obvious where the money has been spent.
I love the blue mica - a bit of sun, spit and polish and there's no finer colour on the road.
I love how it screams LOOK AT ME! And makes no apologies for it- blue paint, gold wheels, a big bonnet scoop and a spoiler you could use as a breakfast table. Brill!
I love the way the local youngsters look at a juxtaposition as I drive past: old man-young man's car, what's that about?

Sure I have a few gripes, but in a society who's hobby it is to stand up and be negative, I can overlook the gripes and say I love my car!


So does the low sales thing bother me? Err.........nope. Will I be beating a path to the Scoob dealer for my next car..........As I say, for all it's imperfections, I'm hooked

Andy
Old 08 April 2006, 09:48 AM
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Looks are pretty subjective. I didn't like the bug or blob eye but I love the new (aeroplane) front. It looks more aggressive than the previous models and more modern than the classic.

If people are thinking they will the quality (particularly interior) of an Audi, I ask them this, where would the money be saved to allow the car to be subaru priced and not Audi priced?

I don't think that wrxs are perfect though. They need to loose some weight and get more sophisticated suspension.


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