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Old 11 April 2006, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Castrol
Actually, there isn't... I'm a frequent visitor to Germany and I see few GXs let alone WRX/STis. 3500 miles last Summer and not a single one seen! I even popped into a friendly Subaru dealer near Koblenz and he said the higher performance models come up against the M3... The Legacy and Forester sell well however.

My STi gets lots of admiring glances however, and people stop to chat in car parks and at petrol stations. Your average German businessman pounding down the autobahn in his 6.9 ltr Merc hasn't a clue what it is however!

Belgium and The Netherlands are a different matter - quite a few around, including older GTs (Classic Turbos).

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Second the Germany thing, lived there on and off for twenty odd years, not many Scoobs, saw a few Leggy Estates down south but that was it.

Got some photos taken in Petrol stations of the Scoob and was suffering from Germans overtaking and then slowing down and over taking again just for a look. Felt a bit paranoid at first The Scoob loves 100 RON V-Power Shell though Top Stuff.

With Prodrive applying for F1 status it may be the slippery slope or the new Dawn. Who knows?
Old 11 April 2006, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Good point well made ......... I would suggest there is a difference between my old car and the sort of car i'm talking about, as well you know
No offense meant Gary, but isnt taste completely in the eye of the beholder?

I quite liked your Scoob, as I like dark wheels and the track look, but it was a bit chavtastic IMO, similar to the huge amount of stickers you have on the 205 Again no offense, but random stickers chucked on a car really bugs me.

I wouldn't personally drive a car with huge bodykit on, 20" wheels etc, but I dont mind looking at them when done properly, and admiring the work thats gone into them.
Old 11 April 2006, 10:29 AM
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Think it will be a while before we see this on a scoob
Old 11 April 2006, 10:32 AM
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a real chav chariot Ps the members wives section is good on that tre smoke website
Old 11 April 2006, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by dougwrx
IMHO, all this crap about classics having a bad image. You **** need to GET A LIFE , who cares what kind of people drive them each car is individual to the owner. Just because some people cant afford to buy a new one doesn't make them any less of an enthusiast.
Exactly. And I only read the first page of this thread so I don't even know what the rest is, but I'm pretty sure I've heard it all before. New(ish) car snobs, gutted because the car they bought on crippling HP is now worth nothing like what they paid and they still owe the money. Here's an idea. Instead of dreaming about your next £25k car that will be shinier/faster/better/more 'Evo' than your next door neighbour's, just buy the best car that you can afford, for cash, out of your own pocket. I can assure you when you spend 5 grand of real money, that you earnt with your own hard work, then it puts a different perspective on things - you look for value for money, longevity, performance, fuel economy, load carrying, stealth, ease of tuning etc etc - and not whether the car is currently someone else's flavour of the month. A lot of people on here need to do some growing up. IMHO
Old 11 April 2006, 10:47 AM
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I purchased my first Impreza with delivery millage in 2002, at the age of 22. Always wanted one, and can honestly say that at the age of 26, still love the drive, ride and performance of the car, just think it lacks in interior quality. I was close to getting a 2006 model, but when i went to the dealers, he advised me to wait to the end of the year/ mid 2007 as there are plans for a completely revised model. I headed his advice, and am now playing the waiting game.

To be honest as with any car that has been around for a while with older models now in th £3K region you will always get the chavs attention and the bolt on Halfods mods.

I can say that I will be purchasing the 'NEW 2007@ model......
Old 11 April 2006, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by silent running
Exactly. And I only read the first page of this thread so I don't even know what the rest is, but I'm pretty sure I've heard it all before. New(ish) car snobs, gutted because the car they bought on crippling HP is now worth nothing like what they paid and they still owe the money. Here's an idea. Instead of dreaming about your next £25k car that will be shinier/faster/better/more 'Evo' than your next door neighbour's, just buy the best car that you can afford, for cash, out of your own pocket. I can assure you when you spend 5 grand of real money, that you earnt with your own hard work, then it puts a different perspective on things - you look for value for money, longevity, performance, fuel economy, load carrying, stealth, ease of tuning etc etc - and not whether the car is currently someone else's flavour of the month. A lot of people on here need to do some growing up. IMHO
What a sweeping pile of steaming assumption!

I've got a MY00 and have had it for nearly five years - I think the image is well on the way to being trashed.

I hope there is truth in the comment that the really nasty examples will evaporate in time but I may well have traded mine in by then.


Got to say that since becoming single I'm more conscious of it and as there aren't many girls out there that appreciate a man in an Impreza any more.
Old 11 April 2006, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream Weaver
No offense meant Gary, but isnt taste completely in the eye of the beholder?

I quite liked your Scoob, as I like dark wheels and the track look, but it was a bit chavtastic IMO, similar to the huge amount of stickers you have on the 205 Again no offense, but random stickers chucked on a car really bugs me.

I wouldn't personally drive a car with huge bodykit on, 20" wheels etc, but I dont mind looking at them when done properly, and admiring the work thats gone into them.
As I said before its more about the kind of person now owning the older cars.

I liked Peanuts comment yesterday, it kind of summed it up for me......something along the lines of parking in a car park and it being the first time he was ashamed of owning a scoob......

Its not that I dont like scoobs its that IN MY TOWN the transformation in the last 3 years has been amazing. From nice well looked after enthusiast cars to midnight town centre runners, doing 7000rpm in 30mph limits.

As has been said, in years to come the good cars will still be around and will be worth a few quid. The dross will have gone to heaven.... The problem is its the dross era that we are going into at the moment.

Gary
Old 11 April 2006, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 7 Foot
What a sweeping pile of steaming assumption!

I've got a MY00 and have had it for nearly five years - I think the image is well on the way to being trashed.

I hope there is truth in the comment that the really nasty examples will evaporate in time but I may well have traded mine in by then.


Got to say that since becoming single I'm more conscious of it and as there aren't many girls out there that appreciate a man in an Impreza any more.
Most women hate and laugh at them and that's a fact!
Old 11 April 2006, 11:05 AM
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The poll is split pretty much down the middle so the thread I started which everyone said ''yawn yawn its been done before'', has certainly sparked plenty of conversation and over 200 people to vote.
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
The poll is split pretty much down the middle so the thread I started which everyone said ''yawn yawn its been done before'', has certainly sparked plenty of conversation and over 200 people to vote.
post this on a non car forum and it will pretty much be 90%+ say chav car or whatever is similar.
Old 11 April 2006, 11:11 AM
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I liked Peanuts comment yesterday, it kind of summed it up for me......something along the lines of parking in a car park and it being the first time he was ashamed of owning a scoob......
But the point is that this could happen to any car. Just imagine if you had just bought a new A4 Avant and that chavved up A4 parked up next to you. There would be pretty much the same embarassment.
Old 11 April 2006, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
post this on a non car forum and it will pretty much be 90%+ say chav car or whatever is similar.
Or they may say 'why are you posting this here, this isn't a car forum'



Would be interesting to see what the results would be if posted on a cruiser site, anyone a member of one?
Old 11 April 2006, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
Most women hate and laugh at them and that's a fact!
Most women don't care and the women that do aren't worth it.
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
But the point is that this could happen to any car. Just imagine if you had just bought a new A4 Avant and that chavved up A4 parked up next to you. There would be pretty much the same embarassment.
No it wouldn't because the A4 as standard has a certain class about it. An Impreza as standard still has the chav or bad image whatever you choose to call it about it.
It's looks ridiculous when you see middle aged men in a Scoob. I can totally understand why they would buy one but the fact is you still look a dick to most other road users. If you can live with that then cool.
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
Most women don't care and the women that do aren't worth it.
rubbish! Of course they care.
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
But the point is that this could happen to any car. Just imagine if you had just bought a new A4 Avant and that chavved up A4 parked up next to you. There would be pretty much the same embarassment.
I really think you are missing the point i'm trying to make. Its about your local town. I bet 3 years ago these cars didnt exist. At midnight you didnt hear the rumble and roar of a scoob being unleashed at 3000 miles per hour down your local stretch of racing road? ...... But now they are out there and not un-common.

Im not interested in Audi's or VW's or BMW's it scoobs im talking about.

50% of a scoob loving community thinks its the case as per the poll....
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
Most women hate and laugh at them and that's a fact!
pmsl at forming a random opinion and calling it a fact.
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
rubbish! Of course they care.
I've never had to use a car to get women and don't need to impress women with a car.
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Originally Posted by RB5_245
pmsl at forming a random opinion and calling it a fact.

My missis liked mine when I bought it, 3 years on she couldnt wait for me to get rid of it.

Most of the people at work laughed at the ironing board on the back and the huge scoop on the front......thats another issue for another thread though.
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
I really think you are missing the point i'm trying to make. Its about your local town. I bet 3 years ago these cars didnt exist. At midnight you didnt hear the rumble and roar of a scoob being unleashed at 3000 miles per hour down your local stretch of racing road? ...... But now they are out there and not un-common.

Im not interested in Audi's or VW's or BMW's it scoobs im talking about.

50% of a scoob loving community thinks its the case as per the poll....
Ok, it's also related to perspective, living in London is obviously a completely different lifestyle than anywhere else, there is not really any "local" scene, especially where I live, and the overwhelming majority of people use public transport most of the time.

The majority of the scoob loving community actually disagree with you... (50.96%)
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Most of the people at work laughed at the ironing board on the back and the huge scoop on the front......thats another issue for another thread though.
Just like we laughed at a mates TVR Sagaris because of the faults, loose panels and smell of glue.
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Are you a Politician KiwiGTI .....we are on a subaru forum and you call 50.96% a majority

You are of course entitled to your opinion.
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
The poll is split pretty much down the middle so the thread I started which everyone said ''yawn yawn its been done before'', has certainly sparked plenty of conversation and over 200 people to vote.
Its a pretty 'safe' subject mate, whenever the classic is mentioned in this light it always seems to spark replies en masse...nothing new there I'm afraid
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Originally Posted by RB5_245
pmsl at forming a random opinion and calling it a fact.
go ask some random women what they think of the red scoob posted a page or so back. take the blinkers off. the car may be good in what it does but to most people looking at them they think it's a joke. 11 year olds tend to love them though
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
I've never had to use a car to get women and don't need to impress women with a car.
I'm not saying that. If you had a first date and had to go pick her up I'd put money on most women would cringe if you rolled up in a scoob with a decat exhaust and huge wing on the back. If however you rolled up in a Audi A3 etc they would form a different opinion of you. Right or wrong as that may be and call people shallow but we do make judgements about people based on the car they drive.
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
But the point is that this could happen to any car. Just imagine if you had just bought a new A4 Avant and that chavved up A4 parked up next to you. There would be pretty much the same embarassment.
the point actually is....
that previously I had no quarms about the scoob in the car park, some would admire, some enthusiasts would enquire about it and Im sure the rest couldnt give two hoots about it, but, for the first time I actually wished I didnt have the scoob as one of the guys who started here in the morning had a lairy arsed import (assume 93) WRX that had carbon **** all over it, tacky lights, was bragging that this 2.5 was his third engine as he blows them up regularly, oh and he's running over 2 bar of boost. maybe a touch of the Walter Mittys but my standard looking Impreza got lumped in with his chav-mobile, where before it was a standard looking car that did a fair bit of track time and the majority were happy to allow me my foible....
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
As I said before its more about the kind of person now owning the older cars.

I liked Peanuts comment yesterday, it kind of summed it up for me......something along the lines of parking in a car park and it being the first time he was ashamed of owning a scoob......

Its not that I dont like scoobs its that IN MY TOWN the transformation in the last 3 years has been amazing. From nice well looked after enthusiast cars to midnight town centre runners, doing 7000rpm in 30mph limits.

As has been said, in years to come the good cars will still be around and will be worth a few quid. The dross will have gone to heaven.... The problem is its the dross era that we are going into at the moment.

Gary
So if you don't like the image of your town (full of idiots thrashing cars) does that mean you are going to move, as you are ashamed of the towns image?
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
go ask some random women what they think of the red scoob posted a page or so back. take the blinkers off. the car may be good in what it does but to most people looking at them they think it's a joke. 11 year olds tend to love them though
Of course, anything with stickers all over it looks terrible. But anything standard is OK. Which is why if you drive around in a Classic which hasn't been overmodded it doesn't make it a chav car.
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
Of course, anything with stickers all over it looks terrible. But anything standard is OK. Which is why if you drive around in a Classic which hasn't been overmodded it doesn't make it a chav car.
Is a classic that is bog-standard apart from a set of lexus lights overmodded?


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