Bottom end knocking... fcuk... what to do now...
19 April 2006, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by [Davey]
Your refering to a full rebuild, he's talking about having just the faulty shell replaced and possible rod.
In my eyes a full re-build means just that! Down to new buckets, valves de-coked and re-ground, new seals, new oil pump, new water pump, honed bores, new rings, decoked pistons etc.
Not just lobbing a few components to replaced damaged ones.
Are we on the same wave length now?
In my eyes a full re-build means just that! Down to new buckets, valves de-coked and re-ground, new seals, new oil pump, new water pump, honed bores, new rings, decoked pistons etc.
Not just lobbing a few components to replaced damaged ones.
Are we on the same wave length now?
I dont think you'll find many a decent engine builder that wouldn't fit a new oil pump as a matter of course...
The labour of 20 hours is not far off as well... it takes just as long to fit 2 shells as it does a complete rebuild..... unless you know a way of magicing the parts inside the block
Andy
20 April 2006, 01:53 AM
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jaytc2003,
Just to make things clear, I was not referring to you !
Ok, maybe it's me, I don't know, but I just can't see how you can inspect the damaged parts without stripping the engine first.
To get to the crank/rods/bearings, the cams need to be removed from the heads, the heads need to be un bolted from the block, then the pistons removed, then engine block 1/2's split, then the rods un bolted from the crank, just to see the bearings, rod, and crank damage !!!
Am I missing something ?
The main point of all of this, is if someone wants to make such bold outlandish statements, he should be prepared to justify what he says ! and if he can't, he shouldn't be making the statement in the first place.
Mark.
Originally Posted by jaytc2003
why would i look like a complete prat? are you telling me there arent companies out there who would just replace the shot parts without stripping?
Ok, maybe it's me, I don't know, but I just can't see how you can inspect the damaged parts without stripping the engine first.
To get to the crank/rods/bearings, the cams need to be removed from the heads, the heads need to be un bolted from the block, then the pistons removed, then engine block 1/2's split, then the rods un bolted from the crank, just to see the bearings, rod, and crank damage !!!
Am I missing something ?
The main point of all of this, is if someone wants to make such bold outlandish statements, he should be prepared to justify what he says ! and if he can't, he shouldn't be making the statement in the first place.
Mark.
20 April 2006, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by R19KET
jaytc2003,
Ok, maybe it's me, I don't know, but I just can't see how you can inspect the damaged parts without stripping the engine first.
Am I missing something ?
Mark.
Ok, maybe it's me, I don't know, but I just can't see how you can inspect the damaged parts without stripping the engine first.
Am I missing something ?
Mark.
20 April 2006, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
I dont think you'll find many a decent engine builder that wouldn't fit a new oil pump as a matter of course...
The labour of 20 hours is not far off as well... it takes just as long to fit 2 shells as it does a complete rebuild..... unless you know a way of magicing the parts inside the block
Andy
20 April 2006, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by APIDavid
Trying to pm you but your mail box is full. Maybe 999 other engine builders got there first ???
David APi
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20 April 2006, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by p1mark
IMHO option 3 is the worst option if you plan on keeping the car - you never really know what you are getting and all who is to say it wont knock another end out in 1/2/3/4 K miles?
obviously if cost is a major issue then its understandable if you have to do it.
obviously if cost is a major issue then its understandable if you have to do it.
20 April 2006, 03:34 PM
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Engine problem
Hi Mate,
Just to let you know I had a similar problem - threw a con rod
out the side of the block.
Didnt know if to do a rebuild/engine swop etc.
After weeks of opinions searching - various VERY diffferent quotes,
went for a Warranty (start up) engine from Grade A Subaru.
It was a STi RA 96 - for £1000 + VAT - free delivered.
I fitted it myself (am not too bad with a spaner) but never done
an engine swop before - but everyone said the scooby is the
easiest engine to replace - it was replaced over 1 weekend
With help from this forum following a step by step instruction.
I'd go for a spare engine and throw it straight in.
Paul
Just to let you know I had a similar problem - threw a con rod
out the side of the block.
Didnt know if to do a rebuild/engine swop etc.
After weeks of opinions searching - various VERY diffferent quotes,
went for a Warranty (start up) engine from Grade A Subaru.
It was a STi RA 96 - for £1000 + VAT - free delivered.
I fitted it myself (am not too bad with a spaner) but never done
an engine swop before - but everyone said the scooby is the
easiest engine to replace - it was replaced over 1 weekend
With help from this forum following a step by step instruction.
I'd go for a spare engine and throw it straight in.
Paul
20 April 2006, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by R19KET
jaytc2003,
Just to make things clear, I was not referring to you !
Ok, maybe it's me, I don't know, but I just can't see how you can inspect the damaged parts without stripping the engine first.
To get to the crank/rods/bearings, the cams need to be removed from the heads, the heads need to be un bolted from the block, then the pistons removed, then engine block 1/2's split, then the rods un bolted from the crank, just to see the bearings, rod, and crank damage !!!
Am I missing something ?
Mark.
Just to make things clear, I was not referring to you !
Ok, maybe it's me, I don't know, but I just can't see how you can inspect the damaged parts without stripping the engine first.
To get to the crank/rods/bearings, the cams need to be removed from the heads, the heads need to be un bolted from the block, then the pistons removed, then engine block 1/2's split, then the rods un bolted from the crank, just to see the bearings, rod, and crank damage !!!
Am I missing something ?
Mark.
Im off now to remove my blinkers
21 April 2006, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jap Paul
Hi Mate,
Just to let you know I had a similar problem - threw a con rod
out the side of the block.
Didnt know if to do a rebuild/engine swop etc.
After weeks of opinions searching - various VERY diffferent quotes,
went for a Warranty (start up) engine from Grade A Subaru.
It was a STi RA 96 - for £1000 + VAT - free delivered.
I fitted it myself (am not too bad with a spaner) but never done
an engine swop before - but everyone said the scooby is the
easiest engine to replace - it was replaced over 1 weekend
With help from this forum following a step by step instruction.
I'd go for a spare engine and throw it straight in.
Paul
Just to let you know I had a similar problem - threw a con rod
out the side of the block.
Didnt know if to do a rebuild/engine swop etc.
After weeks of opinions searching - various VERY diffferent quotes,
went for a Warranty (start up) engine from Grade A Subaru.
It was a STi RA 96 - for £1000 + VAT - free delivered.
I fitted it myself (am not too bad with a spaner) but never done
an engine swop before - but everyone said the scooby is the
easiest engine to replace - it was replaced over 1 weekend
With help from this forum following a step by step instruction.
I'd go for a spare engine and throw it straight in.
Paul
Interesting, who do you guys think would provide such a dea lother than Grade A (will try them tho)
Stil tempted to go for broke with a 2.5 equally a quick get her back up and running would do... still dunno....
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