Things you have seen that physically shocked you
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my worst experience was having my second son 30 weeks into my pregnancy. he was born very healthy at 3lb 10oz in a hospital i had been transfered to whilst in labour. he was breathing on his own but had contracted an eye infection as my waters had broken days before he was born. he was placed on antibiotics and when he was 4 days old we were transfered back to the original hospital...looking forward to taking him home a few weeks later.
after a few days he started to become unwell and kept stopping breathing. i was very worried that he seemed to be be going backwards as oposed to getting stronger. i was told that prems are often like this. then his heart kept stopping, again i was reasured. he started to go very yellow and swelled up, but still i was told this was to be expected. eventually his tiny body arrested and he was transferred back to the hospital he was born in. the doctors were shocked to see him arrive back in such a state. i stood by while countless efforts were made to save him. then the horrible truth came out. the hospital we were sent back to when he was 4 days old hadnt carried on with his antibiotics and his eye infection had spread throughout his body, his bowel contents had gone into his stomach as the infection had basically rotted his insides. he died shortly after
having to choose his tiny white coffin and watching it being carried to the graveside by his dad will haunt me forever. i cant remember much of what happened as i was in such a bad way.
i still get upset when i think about how the hospital failed us and took aways something so precious. it took years to finally get the truth out of the hospital, they admitted full responsibility...some consolation
11 months later i had another son born at 27 weeks who only weighed 2.5lb, amazingly he came home after 7 weeks. as you can imagine i made sure nothing was going to be missed this time and i now have a very trying healthy teenager as a result
and five years ago i had my daughter at 28 weeks, she has some disabilities but i wouldnt change a thing, she is the light of my life
i dont think i will have anymore babies
after a few days he started to become unwell and kept stopping breathing. i was very worried that he seemed to be be going backwards as oposed to getting stronger. i was told that prems are often like this. then his heart kept stopping, again i was reasured. he started to go very yellow and swelled up, but still i was told this was to be expected. eventually his tiny body arrested and he was transferred back to the hospital he was born in. the doctors were shocked to see him arrive back in such a state. i stood by while countless efforts were made to save him. then the horrible truth came out. the hospital we were sent back to when he was 4 days old hadnt carried on with his antibiotics and his eye infection had spread throughout his body, his bowel contents had gone into his stomach as the infection had basically rotted his insides. he died shortly after
having to choose his tiny white coffin and watching it being carried to the graveside by his dad will haunt me forever. i cant remember much of what happened as i was in such a bad way.
i still get upset when i think about how the hospital failed us and took aways something so precious. it took years to finally get the truth out of the hospital, they admitted full responsibility...some consolation
11 months later i had another son born at 27 weeks who only weighed 2.5lb, amazingly he came home after 7 weeks. as you can imagine i made sure nothing was going to be missed this time and i now have a very trying healthy teenager as a result
and five years ago i had my daughter at 28 weeks, she has some disabilities but i wouldnt change a thing, she is the light of my life
i dont think i will have anymore babies
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Originally Posted by lozgti
Some might not remember this but it still makes me sick.
Anyone remember the two army chaps following some funeral party in Ireland?Years ago now.They panic reversed,crowd saw them,ran after the car,dragged them out and just shot them.Couldn't believe it was broadcast.
Not a lot else really.Most things don't strike you as 'really happening'.Do NOT ever want to see that hostage being decapitated.Thinking about that makes me heave
Anyone remember the two army chaps following some funeral party in Ireland?Years ago now.They panic reversed,crowd saw them,ran after the car,dragged them out and just shot them.Couldn't believe it was broadcast.
Not a lot else really.Most things don't strike you as 'really happening'.Do NOT ever want to see that hostage being decapitated.Thinking about that makes me heave
I think the memory of what those IRA guys did to the two off duty soldiers meant I wasn't tempted to watch the Bigley decapitation. I didn't need another disturbing image inside my head.
The Twin Towers incident seemed like a Hollywood movie in comparison. Maybe if I'd seen more images of the people who threw themselves off then I would have had a more human reaction.
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Sara mine died though a combination of premature birth and hospital **** ups too. The umbilical catheter they fed in him shreded a main artery causing him to bleed internally to death and there was nothing they could do. I carried my lads coffin as well, had to have a proud moment with him
Again my anger has always been with the hospital too. He may or may not have survived from such an early age, but the fact is the hospital took away his chance through negligence. The good old NHS eh?!
Again my anger has always been with the hospital too. He may or may not have survived from such an early age, but the fact is the hospital took away his chance through negligence. The good old NHS eh?!
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Sara mine died though a combination of premature birth and hospital **** ups too. The umbilical catheter they fed in him shreded a main artery causing him to bleed internally to death and there was nothing they could do. I carried my lads coffin as well, had to have a proud moment with him
Again my anger has always been with the hospital too. He may or may not have survived from such an early age, but the fact is the hospital took away his chance through negligence. The good old NHS eh?!
Again my anger has always been with the hospital too. He may or may not have survived from such an early age, but the fact is the hospital took away his chance through negligence. The good old NHS eh?!
what made me so angry was the fact that the hospital took 2 years to find all the medical records. they dug their heels in every step of the way, when faced with all the evidence they finally relented and admitted liability.
nearly 5 years ago in the same hospital my younger sister to a brain haemorage. they left my sister in a side room while they spent all night trying to find a hospital that would take her. they were short staffed and gave this as a reason as to why it took so long so sort out the paperwork. sadly my sister ran out of time and we had to turn off her life support after 6 days.
i have no faith in the NHS and as my mum is dying from cancer i know we are going to get very angry as the **** ups carry on
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you dont know the half of it, i condensed it down as its too upsetting
i am lucky in one respect that i am a happy and optimistic person. i think women deal/handle things differently to men. men often hide their feelings and so dont talk about stuff as much as they should. they say time is a great healer....
i am lucky in one respect that i am a happy and optimistic person. i think women deal/handle things differently to men. men often hide their feelings and so dont talk about stuff as much as they should. they say time is a great healer....
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Well you always make plenty of jokes on here and make people laugh Time is most definately a great healer, for a few years afterwards I suffered depression etc, got divorced blah blah blah. Now I have a great Mrs and two great sons and can accept what happened and talk about it. Its taken me 7 years and I will never forgive the dr who was responsible and the way he bu66ered off to Pakistan straight after it happened to avoid facing the inquest/and or me (feking coward) but the fact is life throws different **** at different people and you have to deal with it because there is no choice, everyone one way or another has **** to deal with, just some more than others. The more you deal with the stronger you become because everything gets put into perspective.
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In my line of work i've seen a lot of dead bodies, including 2 people who have been murdered, I'll remember those as long as I live. The worst however was going into a house and finding a woman who had taken pain killers then slit her wrists and finished off by slitting her own throat, that will stick with me as long as I live.
Anything you see on TV or video does not compare to seeing it in real life
Anything you see on TV or video does not compare to seeing it in real life
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^^^ the people who work for the emergency services have my utmost respect. The horrors they must see, especially involving children is something I could not deal with. The same goes for those who have fought in the armed forces and seen horrors you can not describe.
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In Iraq on Telic 2, guy climbing up pylons to steal the cable, we are about 100 Metres away in a Land Rover waiting for him to nab him, he suddenly goes up in flames not knowing the cable was live. falls to ground and was smoking, try to pour water on him but just sizzles and it stinks so much, then try to lift him into land rover and his limbs come away from his body, jesus not nice.
WRXTANKIE- Due to go back in Nov, agree with you, no one is taking me alive and i will take some of them with me an all.
Mac.
WRXTANKIE- Due to go back in Nov, agree with you, no one is taking me alive and i will take some of them with me an all.
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Massive respect to both B2Zero and SaraSq.
Your strength is an inspiration. Thank you both for sharing your experiences even though it was no doubt painful to relive those moments.
I have not experienced anything like that and hope I never will.
TV events pale into significence and so I have nothing of my own to tell here.
Suresh
Your strength is an inspiration. Thank you both for sharing your experiences even though it was no doubt painful to relive those moments.
I have not experienced anything like that and hope I never will.
TV events pale into significence and so I have nothing of my own to tell here.
Suresh
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sounds like lots of bad experiences here, nothing to compare with B20 or SS
but while working in Caribbean on heavy plant i was driving to work in ford F250 with Nerf bars, (big steel bull bars for shunting broken machinary about)
i pulled up at a t juntion to turn right (they drive same side of road as us but LHD US vehicles) and a van coming on the main carriage way from my right clipped two guys on a honda 90 cub moped coming from my left they then were bounced into another on coming Ford F150, straight in front of my windscreen, the guy on the front went right under both wheels, the guy on the back was slightly higher on the seat, he hit the slab shaped nose of the truck and flew over straght into my nerf bars (i was stationary) the only was to describe it was he split, it was horrible, i was the only white guy there and every one looked to me to know what to do, the guy who went under the wheels had what can only be described as strawberry angel delight coming out of his elbow and was just broken up, but alive and rolling around on the road slowly, the other guy looked like a gutted fish still opening its mouth.
All i could do was stop traffic and explain to lots of the on lookers (who spoke Creole like french) to try and keep the comfortable and make sure no one else was run over, it was on the only main road and was their equvilant of rush hour.
the two guys were from Hiati and were on working visa's doing building labouring and lving in a small shack with no running water to send everything back home to build a life for their families.
HIV is a huge problem over there and i had cut hands from working on the spanners and could risk getting covered in blood, the man who went under the wheels asked my to hold his head, one of the other haitians did, but i couldn't, i felt terrible and still do. the ambulance took 25 mins to arrive and because they were immigrants wouldnt treat them, another richer haitian took them to the airport and they both endured a flight to haiti to get treatment, they both died in haiti on the tarmac of the runway.
i took the day of work and washed my truck the next morning, it was violet/ Purple colour and i hadnt noticed how much blood was on it, our driveway was made of white limestone and it stained it all pink for ages, i even had rice which was in his lunch pack all over the windscreen
i cant get over how people can be so callous to not help other people and how because they were haitian they were treated like expendable and the ambulance went away again as they couldn't pay, these people sent everything how to build a life for young families, i also feel bad i didnt hold his head and was thinking off myself, i have to drive past the scene everytime i go to my mums house as its the only junction to get to her road
one of the onlookers has seen me since and said "may god be with you" for helping but it is a small consolation when you feel upset.
sorry its a long post, i dont talk about this, even to the Mrs although she knows it happened, it was nearly 8 years ago and i never stop being thank full i only worry about trivial matters not how my family will survive.
Ray
but while working in Caribbean on heavy plant i was driving to work in ford F250 with Nerf bars, (big steel bull bars for shunting broken machinary about)
i pulled up at a t juntion to turn right (they drive same side of road as us but LHD US vehicles) and a van coming on the main carriage way from my right clipped two guys on a honda 90 cub moped coming from my left they then were bounced into another on coming Ford F150, straight in front of my windscreen, the guy on the front went right under both wheels, the guy on the back was slightly higher on the seat, he hit the slab shaped nose of the truck and flew over straght into my nerf bars (i was stationary) the only was to describe it was he split, it was horrible, i was the only white guy there and every one looked to me to know what to do, the guy who went under the wheels had what can only be described as strawberry angel delight coming out of his elbow and was just broken up, but alive and rolling around on the road slowly, the other guy looked like a gutted fish still opening its mouth.
All i could do was stop traffic and explain to lots of the on lookers (who spoke Creole like french) to try and keep the comfortable and make sure no one else was run over, it was on the only main road and was their equvilant of rush hour.
the two guys were from Hiati and were on working visa's doing building labouring and lving in a small shack with no running water to send everything back home to build a life for their families.
HIV is a huge problem over there and i had cut hands from working on the spanners and could risk getting covered in blood, the man who went under the wheels asked my to hold his head, one of the other haitians did, but i couldn't, i felt terrible and still do. the ambulance took 25 mins to arrive and because they were immigrants wouldnt treat them, another richer haitian took them to the airport and they both endured a flight to haiti to get treatment, they both died in haiti on the tarmac of the runway.
i took the day of work and washed my truck the next morning, it was violet/ Purple colour and i hadnt noticed how much blood was on it, our driveway was made of white limestone and it stained it all pink for ages, i even had rice which was in his lunch pack all over the windscreen
i cant get over how people can be so callous to not help other people and how because they were haitian they were treated like expendable and the ambulance went away again as they couldn't pay, these people sent everything how to build a life for young families, i also feel bad i didnt hold his head and was thinking off myself, i have to drive past the scene everytime i go to my mums house as its the only junction to get to her road
one of the onlookers has seen me since and said "may god be with you" for helping but it is a small consolation when you feel upset.
sorry its a long post, i dont talk about this, even to the Mrs although she knows it happened, it was nearly 8 years ago and i never stop being thank full i only worry about trivial matters not how my family will survive.
Ray
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I know a fireman who had to go to the Paddington rail crash scene shortly after it happended. He said it was absolutely chilling to keep hearing the casualties mobile phones ringing, checking on people. He said it was the worst scene he'd ever been to and didn't really speak properly for a couple of days.
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Sad, but kind of cheered me up in a strange way, had a monk on as I am leaving work and my leaving do (that I didnt want but was cajoled into) is getting smaller by the day, just going to be me and the office junior at this rate, reading more of this made me realise how lucky I am (so far).
One thing I saw was one evening was a Kent Sweepers lorry with its front end perched on a Motorbike, absolutely made my blood run cold so I went to stop and see if I could help, not sure what I could do for a biker with a truck on his body but I was there, felt like I needed to do something, anyway I get nearer, looking for a body and couldnt see one so I thought the truck had gone right over him, yuk, I get round the other side and a man in a helmet was dragging the truck driver out to paste him for running the red light !
Some do end happily !
One thing I saw was one evening was a Kent Sweepers lorry with its front end perched on a Motorbike, absolutely made my blood run cold so I went to stop and see if I could help, not sure what I could do for a biker with a truck on his body but I was there, felt like I needed to do something, anyway I get nearer, looking for a body and couldnt see one so I thought the truck had gone right over him, yuk, I get round the other side and a man in a helmet was dragging the truck driver out to paste him for running the red light !
Some do end happily !
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Originally Posted by island991
Obviously with your nic i can see you are more in the know than me, but i thought the problem with it was that the underneath of the wing/fuel tanks were not protected properly. So 'fod' on the runway being thrown up ruptured tanks. A problem which they knew about because it happened previously when a concorde had a blow out and the rubber was thrown up and caused similar damage without the consquence.
Anyway that wasnt the main point strangely! no matter how wonderful a piece of flying history it is, experiencing something like that takes the gloss off it on a personal level.
As for the bbq quote. eloquent i am not but I have no other way of describing it. It was truely a harrowing experience.
Anyway that wasnt the main point strangely! no matter how wonderful a piece of flying history it is, experiencing something like that takes the gloss off it on a personal level.
As for the bbq quote. eloquent i am not but I have no other way of describing it. It was truely a harrowing experience.
With the actual crash though, just where do you draw the line? I was at a meeting this week ( aviation related ) where a procedure change has been deemed valid,as a risk assesment put the chances of an accident at 1 every 33,000,000 years. Are you going to stop flying now? Now, I'm know most aircraft have flaws, but where do you draw the line? If you've seen the film about the Concorde crash, its is unbelievable the amount of things that went wrong, at precisely the wrong time, that caused that crash to happpen. The aircraft, was never unsafe. It was the mechanical victim of lady luck.
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With regards to B20 & SS
you know what i did many years ago...
the only thing i really used to hate, making small coffins, the normal day to
day stuff was part and parcel of the job, but kids ones were a real downer for
all of us.
Mart
you know what i did many years ago...
the only thing i really used to hate, making small coffins, the normal day to
day stuff was part and parcel of the job, but kids ones were a real downer for
all of us.
Mart
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the train times and destinations board at Liverpool street station, all saying 'Cancelled'
made me think of Final Destination
and a more recent shock was this morning, seeing the blood stained remains of the 'jumper' (not wooly) under the train at the station i use everyday.
made me think of Final Destination
and a more recent shock was this morning, seeing the blood stained remains of the 'jumper' (not wooly) under the train at the station i use everyday.
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During the past 9 years I've seen all sorts of horrible stuff that I wouldn't wish on anyone, including an 8 month pregnant woman who had just had her throat cut by her husbands estranged wife.
Somehow I've always managed to detach myself from it all and have never felt the need to have a critical incident debrief and/or councelling which are offered to us. Also, the videos ont he net of the various atrocities mentioned don't bother me either.... Sometimes I wonder if I'm just a cold barsteward....
However, being a father of a beautiful 12 week old girl, I'm having to hold back the waterworks at B20's and Sara's stories....
Somehow I've always managed to detach myself from it all and have never felt the need to have a critical incident debrief and/or councelling which are offered to us. Also, the videos ont he net of the various atrocities mentioned don't bother me either.... Sometimes I wonder if I'm just a cold barsteward....
However, being a father of a beautiful 12 week old girl, I'm having to hold back the waterworks at B20's and Sara's stories....
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One film clip that I remember vividly was an early evening news clip of Palestinian teenagers - captured by the Israeli Military or the Police (I can't remember which) - being held with their arms twisted so the elbow was uppermost and their joints being smashed with enormous stones.
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However, being a father of a beautiful 12 week old girl, I'm having to hold back the waterworks at B20's and Sara's stories....
I always find things like Seaside Rescue & Trauma emotional when there are young kids involved....I remember one where 3 kids had got stuck on a rock as the tide was coming in - one of their dads had managed to get to them and he got stuck with them as well - 999 to Coastguard & lifeboat heaves up - they can't get into the rocks close enough to get them off as the tide rapidly rises and mahoosive waves are washing over them at this point - the kids would'nt leave the rocks - they were blarting & screaming with fear - ends up with a lifeboat man taking to the water with a rope to get to them - it was really emotional - as it would so easy to see your own (and self) in the same situation so easily....
Big out to the RNLI - they always win my respect.
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