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06 May 2006, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
You're assuming that I'm comparing a import typeR with a new uksti, I'm not. Even if I was though, it's could be comparable due to the VFM factor of being able to get 2 typeRs for the price of one UK car.
And where did I say that I'd spend 5k on a typeR on getting it up to the standard of the latest JDM? I was saying throw 5k at it and it would **** all over your 03, not simply just make it to the same standard
As far as I know the diff set up on a typeR is very good, the brakes are good, but if you wanted to add upgraded pads, braided hoses and possibly grooved discs, can't see that being a fortune. And why would a 6 speed gearbox be required? Seems to me youre spending my 5k on pointless and unneeded mods, possibly much in the same way you did with your uk turbo!
I may not know as much about newshape cars, but its patently obvious you dont know much about classic cars, especially typeRs. Running a uk turbo with a few minor mods isn't the same sunshine. It's I that is laughing at you spending loads on a higher depreciating car and gaining almost nothing in performance.
To surmise, I recommend you reading my posts properly before you jump in wearing your ignorant hat.
And where did I say that I'd spend 5k on a typeR on getting it up to the standard of the latest JDM? I was saying throw 5k at it and it would **** all over your 03, not simply just make it to the same standard
As far as I know the diff set up on a typeR is very good, the brakes are good, but if you wanted to add upgraded pads, braided hoses and possibly grooved discs, can't see that being a fortune. And why would a 6 speed gearbox be required? Seems to me youre spending my 5k on pointless and unneeded mods, possibly much in the same way you did with your uk turbo!
I may not know as much about newshape cars, but its patently obvious you dont know much about classic cars, especially typeRs. Running a uk turbo with a few minor mods isn't the same sunshine. It's I that is laughing at you spending loads on a higher depreciating car and gaining almost nothing in performance.
To surmise, I recommend you reading my posts properly before you jump in wearing your ignorant hat.
Your the ignorant one, you just think classics are the best, well put 356lbs of torque though the type r gearbox and see how long it lasts
Now if you want to start on the cash line, well the average type R when it came out over here from importers was 30k, mine was 26k, so to start with im 4k better off, but then you will say buy a 5/6, now thats a 7 year old car, its worth nothing and with 70+k on the clock,
such a joker As for performance, a mere 1500 quid gets me 360bhp and near enough 400lbs of torque, or is that not feasable out of a type r without replacing half the car
2 for 1 offer, no thanks, id rather have a newer, better build, better handling, better designed and quicker car than a 7 year old type r.
Tony
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06 May 2006, 03:20 PM
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I think you need to understand that the type r is not all singing and dancing which u seem to think it is.
Your the ignorant one, you just think classics are the best, well put 356lbs of torque though the type r gearbox and see how long it lasts
Now if you want to start on the cash line, well the average type R when it came out over here from importers was 30k, mine was 26k, so to start with im 4k better off, but then you will say buy a 5/6, now thats a 7 year old car, its worth nothing and with 70+k on the clock, such a joker
As for performance, a mere 1500 quid gets me 360bhp and near enough 400lbs of torque, or is that not feasable out of a type r without replacing half the car
2 for 1 offer, no thanks, id rather have a newer, better build, better handling, better designed and quicker car than a 7 year old type r.
Tony
Your the ignorant one, you just think classics are the best, well put 356lbs of torque though the type r gearbox and see how long it lasts
Now if you want to start on the cash line, well the average type R when it came out over here from importers was 30k, mine was 26k, so to start with im 4k better off, but then you will say buy a 5/6, now thats a 7 year old car, its worth nothing and with 70+k on the clock, such a joker
As for performance, a mere 1500 quid gets me 360bhp and near enough 400lbs of torque, or is that not feasable out of a type r without replacing half the car
2 for 1 offer, no thanks, id rather have a newer, better build, better handling, better designed and quicker car than a 7 year old type r.
Tony
I’ve never said that typeRs are all singing and dancing nor that classics were better than new ages. Nor do I understand the comparison that because new typeRs were 4k dearer than your car, you’re somehow better off by 4k, WTF? I’m not saying you can go out and buy a new typeR.
High mileage typeRs worth nothing, ahem, just a 2 min search reveals this http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www...00609226078529
There are plenty of typeRs running around with 360 bhp, with relatively few modification compared to changing half a car. Again, I don’t understand your point here, your ignorance of the car lets you down again. In anycase, due to the weight advantage a typeR doesn’t have to match a newshape for power.
In any case, I’ll leave you to wallow in your ignorance and stupidity and I have better things to do
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06 May 2006, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
What did I say about reading my posts properly and not replying with an ignorance hat on?
I’ve never said that typeRs are all singing and dancing nor that classics were better than new ages. Nor do I understand the comparison that because new typeRs were 4k dearer than your car, you’re somehow better off by 4k, WTF? I’m not saying you can go out and buy a new typeR.
High mileage typeRs worth nothing, ahem, just a 2 min search reveals this http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www...00609226078529
There are plenty of typeRs running around with 360 bhp, with relatively few modification compared to changing half a car. Again, I don’t understand your point here, your ignorance of the car lets you down again. In anycase, due to the weight advantage a typeR doesn’t have to match a newshape for power.
In any case, I’ll leave you to wallow in your ignorance and stupidity and I have better things to do
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I’ve never said that typeRs are all singing and dancing nor that classics were better than new ages. Nor do I understand the comparison that because new typeRs were 4k dearer than your car, you’re somehow better off by 4k, WTF? I’m not saying you can go out and buy a new typeR.
High mileage typeRs worth nothing, ahem, just a 2 min search reveals this http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www...00609226078529
There are plenty of typeRs running around with 360 bhp, with relatively few modification compared to changing half a car. Again, I don’t understand your point here, your ignorance of the car lets you down again. In anycase, due to the weight advantage a typeR doesn’t have to match a newshape for power.
In any case, I’ll leave you to wallow in your ignorance and stupidity and I have better things to do
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I read your garbage you wrote, lets just get something sorted here.....
360bhp on a type r will require the following for reliability
Clutch
gearbox
brake upgrade
new bigger turbo
remap
samco hose pipes
exhaust
intercooler
filter/induction kit
5k gone
mine, acutally with a full decat and remap needs nothing of the sort.
Plus if you care to look at the figures..... new age Spec C is quicker than any production type r ever was, FACT.
So much for being heavier, could have something to do with the closer ratio'd gearbox
and the upgrades to the engine that subaru made....Your ignorance shows, and i dont need to put anyone on ignore because you have been proven wrong
Tony
06 May 2006, 03:50 PM
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I read your garbage you wrote, lets just get something sorted here.....
360bhp on a type r will require the following for reliability
Clutch
gearbox
brake upgrade
new bigger turbo
remap
samco hose pipes
exhaust
intercooler
filter/induction kit
wrong !!!
only turbo and intercooler is required with a remap
gearbox is good for 400 all day long and clutch is fine as long as you dont use the car for drag strip racing.I speak from experience
360bhp on a type r will require the following for reliability
Clutch
gearbox
brake upgrade
new bigger turbo
remap
samco hose pipes
exhaust
intercooler
filter/induction kit
wrong !!!
only turbo and intercooler is required with a remap
gearbox is good for 400 all day long and clutch is fine as long as you dont use the car for drag strip racing.I speak from experience
06 May 2006, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby-tc
I read your garbage you wrote, lets just get something sorted here.....
360bhp on a type r will require the following for reliability
Clutch
gearbox
brake upgrade
new bigger turbo
remap
samco hose pipes
exhaust
intercooler
filter/induction kit
wrong !!!
only turbo and intercooler is required with a remap gearbox is good for 400 all day long and clutch is fine as long as you dont use the car for drag strip racing.I speak from experience
360bhp on a type r will require the following for reliability
Clutch
gearbox
brake upgrade
new bigger turbo
remap
samco hose pipes
exhaust
intercooler
filter/induction kit
wrong !!!
only turbo and intercooler is required with a remap
gearbox is good for 400 all day long and clutch is fine as long as you dont use the car for drag strip racing.I speak from experienceSo the standard exhaust with the standard cat and the standard hoses and air filter can take the extra pressure?
Hmmmmm
As for the gearbox, one of my earlier replies stated 400lbs of torque, and i dont think the type r box is good for anywhere near that, hence the quote on the gearbox and clutch
And the brakes.... those rear 2pots do add some increase in the braking ability due to the dccd and the transfer of power f/r so they are needed, but they do still suck when you put serious power though the car, the 280ps that is quoted, they are reasonable, but not brilliant.
Tony
erm i leave my post for 3 days an see what happens lol
06 May 2006, 06:25 PM
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actually tony the hp of a sti type r is closer to 300 than the quoted 280ps mine was 309 totally standard also there is only 1 cat (downpipe) the centre section has a resonator.Lots of big (ish) power classics opt for a type r/ra box as they are on a par with the newage 6 speed in terms of reliability.I think the list you quoted would be based on a UK classic getting that sort of power.There certainly isnt a restrictive issue on the panel filters that im aware of besides they are peanuts to upgrade anyway,but im prepared for the big tuners on here to correct me
with regard to the hoses i personally think the OE hoses are no problem i still use the standard inlet hose on my 20G as do the vast majority of people i think the samco stuff is there just to make the engine bay look pretty
anyway stop bragging about your spec c you tart
also there is only 1 cat (downpipe) the centre section has a resonator.Lots of big (ish) power classics opt for a type r/ra box as they are on a par with the newage 6 speed in terms of reliability.I think the list you quoted would be based on a UK classic getting that sort of power.There certainly isnt a restrictive issue on the panel filters that im aware of besides they are peanuts to upgrade anyway,but im prepared for the big tuners on here to correct me with regard to the hoses i personally think the OE hoses are no problem i still use the standard inlet hose on my 20G as do the vast majority of people i think the samco stuff is there just to make the engine bay look pretty
anyway stop bragging about your spec c you tart
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06 May 2006, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
Classic's look very dated now IMO - and to a lot of people they must just see them as "a chavved up old banger" - but value for money you cant knock them.
You can pick up a classic WRX for a couple of grand - thats a very cheap 280bhp!
You can pick up a classic WRX for a couple of grand - thats a very cheap 280bhp!
my classic http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...r/5c7909b4.jpg
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have to agree,my type R certainly doesnt look dated IMO its the best shape subaru ever produced (the 2 door i mean) and is certainly no slouch even when compared to the new spec c's and WR1s etc as stated above if the classic scoob is well looked after and kept as standard looking as possible then its certainly still a good looking car 
end of the day everyone is different and have their own preferences it has nothing to do with money its down to personal choice and VFM.If they had a 2 door newage car id have one like a shot but they dont so im more than happy with what ive got
end of the day everyone is different and have their own preferences it has nothing to do with money its down to personal choice and VFM.If they had a 2 door newage car id have one like a shot but they dont so im more than happy with what ive got
06 May 2006, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby-tc
shush Jon id rather u walked.
I bet u a pinch to a pound of **** you would rather have kept your classic RB5 than that lardy thing youve got now
id rather u walked.I bet u a pinch to a pound of **** you would rather have kept your classic RB5 than that lardy thing youve got now
I loved that car i did.
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