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Old 12 May 2006, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SwissTony
oh mate..you are going to get flamed for that...PC brigade on their way as we speak
ST - Well ya gotta add a little twist to make it a readworthy thread ...
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Old 12 May 2006, 03:01 PM
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I don't often wish mis-fortune on others, but when I see able-bodied people in disabled spaces I make an exception.

As for parking in parent and child spaces, the reason these are there is to allow easier accessing to kids in car seats, and as I can vouch for, it's not easy getting a struggling kid out of a car without hitting the car next door. I'm sure you would rather have these people away from your car to save you from annoying dents!
Old 12 May 2006, 03:07 PM
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Old 12 May 2006, 03:20 PM
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Pretty much ALL the disabled spaces at the Orbital centre (where Iwan took that) are usually full, but like someone else mentioned - there's always a very small amount of people in the stores who I would (at a glance) consider worthy of the privilidge of parking there.

I'd never give out a disabled badge unless I was 100% sure that the person concerned would be negatively impacted without one (as opposed to positively benefitted with one).
Old 12 May 2006, 03:25 PM
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Love this stuff. Agree with those who find people parking in disabled spots are ******* - they are, and those who admit it are even bigger tossers. Pisses me off because of their selfishness, but that's probably because they have no life and small dicks.

However, that does not take away from the fact that we all seem to have seen people who have a disabled badge and who seem to walk fine. I know my brother who is handicapped and cannot drive, walks everywhere, but the doc still offered one to my Mum & Dad because they drive him to a lot of places. If they are so easy to get, the other f/wits are the doctors who just give them out. Third bunch of ******* has been found...
Old 12 May 2006, 03:29 PM
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Picking up my wife once, I came into the Tesco car park to pick her up and lo and behold a police car got there just before me, officer and woman officer passenger got out and looked like they were going to buy their lunch.

I poitely enquired of the officer whether he was aware that this was a pick up point not a lazy *******'s reserved space (did not put it quite like that) and asked if he should not be setting a better example as an officer of the law etc.

He gave me some spiel about how they were supposed to be parked in an obvious position to deter crime (can sort of see his point here) but interestingly have not seen another police car in he space since, I think his passenger may have been the head honcho for the town, perhaps she had a word.

If i am picking up my wife and someone is parked in that space I take great care to ensure that if possible they can not get out until we have filled the boot and are ready to go - very satisfying I find, only delays them a couple of minutes at most but probably more than if they had nothered to park properly in the first place.
Old 12 May 2006, 03:33 PM
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Iwan

Little while back i saw a cop car parked in disabled at Saisburys. On my way in I saw the offending wpc walk out with a bag of shopping (donuts and sandwiches )

I had already taken the number of the car and reported it to the local nick on the basis that if I had done the same I'm sure I would have got a lecture.

The inspector called me and apologised on behalf of the wpc, and said she had been given a dressing down.
Old 12 May 2006, 03:40 PM
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I thought that said "dressing gown" at first, thought it was a bit odd!
Old 12 May 2006, 03:41 PM
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I think we have touched something here, what is it with the police parking like this. it is just like this at my local Tesco, yet no one says anything (me included) yet if it were me i'd have a kich up teh **** so fast.....


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Old 12 May 2006, 03:46 PM
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but if they do need to respond to a job, then surely they need the car close by ?
Old 12 May 2006, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000 sport
but if they do need to respond to a job, then surely they need the car close by ?

Well they'll need to have the car close due to all the donuts they are filling their face with

its nothing to do with that its just pure laziness
Old 12 May 2006, 04:11 PM
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maybe they are attending a urgent call (ie the store is being held up?) there are 2 cars there...
Old 12 May 2006, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by gazza-uk
maybe they are attending a urgent call (ie the store is being held up?) there are 2 cars there...
Nope. The coppers from the furthest car were walking around inside the shop with clipboards, they walked into the shop in front of me. The coppers from the nearest car walked in while I was in the queue to pay for my sarnies, they also picked up some sarnies and joined the queue a few spaces behind me. One of them was a particularly foxy WPC.

I'm generally a supporter of the Police and the work they do, but this sort of thing annoys me a bit as it just doesn't do them any favours in the eyes of the public. The carpark is massive and there were many empty rows of parking spaces only 30s walk away from the entrance. I guess that's just too far for some people.
Old 12 May 2006, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mad_dr
there's always a very small amount of people in the stores who I would (at a glance) consider worthy of the privilidge of parking there.
thats because you obviously know **** all-"worthy" and "privilidge" FFS
Originally Posted by mad_dr
I'd never give out a disabled badge unless I was 100% sure that the person concerned would be negatively impacted without one (as opposed to positively benefitted with one).
and here you prove it
congratulations-you are a first order feckwit.
richie

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Old 12 May 2006, 07:29 PM
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I work for a multi national supermarket and I have got to say that parking in one of the top issues I have had no matter which store I have worked in. I spend lots of time each week explaining to customers that I totally agree about these ***** parking in the disabled bays and up until now we couldnt do anything about it! Now we have the local council involved and they get a 60 quid fine.....was a great week the first week!!! All the scratters complaining!!

The 'lone parent and baby' bays are for just that and not as some people think a 60 year old woman and her child!! It is, as someone has already said, for ease of getting the baby in and out of the car seat without shafting the door on other cars and it winds me up to see families with 5 people in the car getting out even though there may be a baby onboard they wont need the convenience of a larger parking space due to the fact that the rest of the herd are with them!!

Clearly it is down to everyones better nature and it is evident that, these days, manners and society in general has gone down the toilet.

As for the Police I have only seen them park in our disabled bays when they have been called to pick up a shoplifter and for no other reason!!! Although they do take advantage of our '2 packs for 99p' donuts
Old 12 May 2006, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by gazza-uk
maybe they are attending a urgent call (ie the store is being held up?) there are 2 cars there...
good call but for a few things
a) if was something urgent like an armed robbery, I doubt they would park so straight, instead they would have burnt in at 50mph, careered into the spot at an angle and still have lights flashing.

or b) the store was being robbed but they wanted to approach with stealth, then they wouldnt have parked right out at the front in plain view..

no, they were there for the donuts and sarnies..full stop

hang em I say
Old 12 May 2006, 09:01 PM
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I got told off at work for parking in a disabled bay, got out of my Fiat Coupe turbo and got called all sorts of things by a fat middle aged minger with big hair, i let her have her moment and then helped my mate out into his wheelchair !

Not all disabled people prefer to be driven in converted Fiat Doblo's !
Old 12 May 2006, 10:25 PM
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I had an instance today whereby I was out with my mum ( registered disabled ) and I was waiting to enter a car park where I could see 1 disabled bay left.

i was sat behind 2 cars, also waiting to enter, I saw a huge black guy pull into the last disabled bay.. he got out and started to walk off. He had no badge on show and I asked (politely!!) if he was registered disabled - he said no and hurriedly walked off!! There is a never a traffic warden or copper around when you need one - I should maybe look in the doughnut aisle next time

My mum is not mentally disabled but is classed as physically disabled as she is someone who suffers from a number of debilitating illnesses, part of which affects her ability to walk - she can't even walk to the end of our garden (which is about the size of a postage stamp!!).

I don't think that she should be penalised just because she isn't in a wheelchair? Disabled doesn't just mean you are wheelchair bound - it's a pretty narrow minded view to think that all disabled people are!! That's why spaces are put closer to the entrances etc!!

I'd think twice before labelling people who seem to walk fine as not being disabled - you don't know what is wrong with them - it's not GP's who hand these things out, you have to qualify under certain rules...

People should be moaning more about Parent & child spaces.. our local Tescos has these right outside the store entrance whilst the disabled bays are futher away

It's a parents choice (in most instances ) to have kids - a person doesn't choose to be disabled.

The Disability Discrimination Act (DDA) defines a disabled person as someone who has a physical or mental impairment that has a substantial and long-term adverse effect on his or her ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities.

The disabled parking badge scheme is a national scheme for people who:
  • Are registered blind or
  • Have severe walking difficulties or
  • Regularly drive but are unable to turn the steering wheel by hand.
Old 12 May 2006, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by little-ginge
I don't think that she should be penalised just because she isn't in a wheelchair? Disabled doesn't just mean you are wheelchair bound - it's a pretty narrow minded view to think that all disabled people are!! That's why spaces are put closer to the entrances etc!!

I'd think twice before labelling people who seem to walk fine as not being disabled - you don't know what is wrong with them - it's not GP's who hand these things out, you have to qualify under certain rules...
I think you are the only one thinking other people assume you can't have disabled non-wheelchair users. I've not seen any evidence here to suggest anybody does.

A two-tier system would work better as the genuine walking disabled might need the space nearer than certain wheelchair users because of their health, but, and it's a big but, relatively healthy wheelchair uses need the room.

Most ill walking disabled don't drive themselves to these places and can even be dropped off outside whilst the car is parked anywhere, and then joined.

Wheelchair user/drivers/passengers, don't have this option but wouldn't, in a lot of cases, be too bothered about being further away, as long as they could get their chair out.
Old 12 May 2006, 11:01 PM
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I worked out the solution to this one the other week.

Put *ALL* the parent/baby spaces & disabled spaces very near the store, but make the route to these spaces FAR longer than the route to the normal spaces AND/OR put in loads of obstacles/calming to get to them....that way, those who genuinely require the use of these spaces probably won't mind overcoming the longer route and/or obstacles - even if it means another 30-60 seconds in their car to park.

...this is because, generally at present, disabled or parent/baby spaces are :

- nearest to the store
- the emptiest ones nearest the store
- the easiest to park in

Hence why the chav scum of this world exercise their ignorance to park in them

Make them harder to get to, but still near to the store, and surely it would cut the usage of them by the lazy bar stewards by quite a margin. Shouldn't be too difficult for a car park design engineer to design this

(c) Me 2006
Old 12 May 2006, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
I think you are the only one thinking other people assume you can't have disabled non-wheelchair users. I've not seen any evidence here to suggest anybody does.

A two-tier system would work better as the genuine walking disabled might need the space nearer than certain wheelchair users because of their health, but, and it's a big but, relatively healthy wheelchair uses need the room.

Most ill walking disabled don't drive themselves to these places and can even be dropped off outside whilst the car is parked anywhere, and then joined.

Wheelchair user/drivers/passengers, don't have this option but wouldn't, in a lot of cases, be too bothered about being further away, as long as they could get their chair out.
Originally Posted by Abdabz
Always cars parked in these bays with the appropriate cards in the window BUT how many wheelchair users or zimmer frame users do you see in the shop? NONE!
*cough*

well ok he did say zimmers too
Old 12 May 2006, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by little-ginge
*cough*

well ok he did say zimmers too
Do his posts count though?
Old 12 May 2006, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Do his posts count though?
Old 13 May 2006, 10:41 AM
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tbh I often park in these spaces sorry

the only reason being, the standard spaces are to narrow, and I dont want some fcukwit in an old cavalier / young kid, smacking their car door / trolley into my car....

perhaps the solution would be to implement wider spots


yes I know im selfish, but I love my car, and I cant afford to take it to the body shop after each visit to a supermarket / shopping centre

Going back to the police thingymibob

If they parked their cars in normal bays, is there not bigger chance of them being vandalised ? at least they can see them from the entrance, this also gives greater visability (puts off would be shoplifters) and also the scum that steal / attack YOUR car!
Old 13 May 2006, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Abdabz
LOL... They are nothing more than a marketing ploy to bring in pain in the ar$e parents who drag their skriking kids round with them everywhere they go. ..... I have no qualms about parking in parent and child spaces anywhere Bring it on
I too would have no qualms about dinging your door when I take the large heavy flat carry cot out of the car to clip into the push-chair. Such a terrible thing to ding a 'misparked' child hater's door after queuing 5 mins for your legitimate child/parent space wouldnt it? The irony is that these spaces are created to PREVENT this dinging in the first place

Also if you ever have kids mate you will understand that the law of the land prevents you from leaving them home alone to protect the sensibilities of such as your self when out hunting for bread!

As for the comments on the disabled by some here do you not understand that they are far less likely to be able to move as well or as pain free as the selfish ignorant here? So for God's sake cut them some slack will you? Unbeliavable.
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Gazza - when I'm not with the kids I park far from the entrance at the end of a bay or next to a kerb/tree/skip or something to prevent the dings... A grown up fairer solution to preserving your paintwork?
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Originally Posted by Diesel
I too would have no qualms about dinging your door when I take the large heavy flat carry cot out of the car to clip into the push-chair. Such a terrible thing to ding a 'misparked' child hater's door after queuing 5 mins for your legitimate child/parent space wouldnt it? The irony is that these spaces are created to PREVENT this dinging in the first place

Also if you ever have kids mate you will understand that the law of the land prevents you from leaving them home alone to protect the sensibilities of such as your self when out hunting for bread!

As for the comments on the disabled by some here do you not understand that they are far less likely to be able to move as well or as pain free as the selfish ignorant here? So for God's sake cut them some slack will you? Unbeliavable.
Gazza - when I'm not with the kids I park far from the entrance at the end of a bay or next to a kerb/tree/skip or something to prevent the dings... A grown up fairer solution to preserving your paintwork?

Folks this is why we need to avoid these sort of people...

Deliberetly going about damaging your cars, they have no pride in their cars (park next to skips etc etc)

Have you ever accidently got in the skip, with your shopping, on the way back ?

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So lads; if you pull up at a supermarket to nip in for a sarnie and there are say, a dozen disabled/ mother and child parking spaces, would you not drop in one, grab your sarnie and then get on your way? Surely this is completely different to taking one of maybe two spots to go off and do a months shop.
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
So lads; if you pull up at a supermarket to nip in for a sarnie and there are say, a dozen disabled/ mother and child parking spaces, would you not drop in one, grab your sarnie and then get on your way? Surely this is completely different to taking one of maybe two spots to go off and do a months shop.
No I wouldn't. Personally I don't think it's the right thing to do, but that's just me.
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