Parking in taxi/disabled dropoff/pickup area at supermarket.
13 May 2006, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
So lads; if you pull up at a supermarket to nip in for a sarnie and there are say, a dozen disabled/ mother and child parking spaces, would you not drop in one, grab your sarnie and then get on your way? Surely this is completely different to taking one of maybe two spots to go off and do a months shop.
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13 May 2006, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by gazza-uk
tbh I often park in these spaces 
sorry 
the only reason being, the standard spaces are to narrow, and I dont want some fcukwit in an old cavalier / young kid, smacking their car door / trolley into my car....
perhaps the solution would be to implement wider spots
yes I know im selfish, but I love my car, and I cant afford to take it to the body shop after each visit to a supermarket / shopping centre
sorry the only reason being, the standard spaces are to narrow, and I dont want some fcukwit in an old cavalier / young kid, smacking their car door / trolley into my car....
perhaps the solution would be to implement wider spots
yes I know im selfish, but I love my car, and I cant afford to take it to the body shop after each visit to a supermarket / shopping centre
Think yourself very lucky that all you need to worry about is door dings.
What if no disbaled bays meant you can't do your shopping so no food, or walking from the back of the carpark can cause a pain flare up that lasts for days and the only thing that takes it away is morphine.
My wife is disabled and I also know spoon has his problems as well.
I think both of us would swap the disability for a heavily dinged car.
Cheers
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13 May 2006, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by logiclee
If at any time in your life you experience the stress, pain, tourment and upset that disability brings you will realise what a complete to55er you really are.
Think yourself very lucky that all you need to worry about is door dings.
What if no disbaled bays meant you can't do your shopping so no food, or walking from the back of the carpark can cause a pain flare up that lasts for days and the only thing that takes it away is morphine.
My wife is disabled and I also know spoon has his problems as well.
I think both of us would swap the disability for a heavily dinged car.
Cheers
Lee
Think yourself very lucky that all you need to worry about is door dings.
What if no disbaled bays meant you can't do your shopping so no food, or walking from the back of the carpark can cause a pain flare up that lasts for days and the only thing that takes it away is morphine.
My wife is disabled and I also know spoon has his problems as well.
I think both of us would swap the disability for a heavily dinged car.
Cheers
Lee
I would only ever park in a disabled bay, if I was running in to grab something, and loads of free spaces were available..
have you ever parked on a double/single yellow line ?
13 May 2006, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by logiclee
If at any time in your life you experience the stress, pain, tourment and upset that disability brings you will realise what a complete to55er you really are.
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13 May 2006, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel
Well said. Unless some of these selfish tossers actually here see stiff limbs, amputations or winces of pain they just put themselves first. Such is their depth, compassion and integrity. Makes me sick.
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I hear what you're saying, but it's not what it's about is it? If there are a dozen empty spaces and the time in the store is going to be 5 minutes, the chances of twelve disabled people turning up during this period are infinitesimal. Able bodied people using limited spaces for long periods is clearly unacceptable and deserves condemnation, but that's not what Gazza and I are saying.
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13 May 2006, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by little-ginge
I had an instance today whereby I was out with my mum ( registered disabled ) and I was waiting to enter a car park where I could see 1 disabled bay left.
i was sat behind 2 cars, also waiting to enter, I saw a huge black guy pull into the last disabled bay.. he got out and started to walk off. He had no badge on show and I asked (politely!!) if he was registered disabled - he said no and hurriedly walked off!! There is a never a traffic warden or copper around when you need one - I should maybe look in the doughnut aisle next time
My mum is not mentally disabled but is classed as physically disabled as she is someone who suffers from a number of debilitating illnesses, part of which affects her ability to walk - she can't even walk to the end of our garden (which is about the size of a postage stamp!!).
I don't think that she should be penalised just because she isn't in a wheelchair? Disabled doesn't just mean you are wheelchair bound - it's a pretty narrow minded view to think that all disabled people are!! That's why spaces are put closer to the entrances etc!!
I'd think twice before labelling people who seem to walk fine as not being disabled - you don't know what is wrong with them - it's not GP's who hand these things out, you have to qualify under certain rules...
People should be moaning more about Parent & child spaces.. our local Tescos has these right outside the store entrance whilst the disabled bays are futher away
It's a parents choice (in most instances
) to have kids - a person doesn't choose to be disabled.
The Disability Discrimination Act (DDA) defines a disabled person as someone who has a physical or mental impairment that has a substantial and long-term adverse effect on his or her ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities.
The disabled parking badge scheme is a national scheme for people who:
i was sat behind 2 cars, also waiting to enter, I saw a huge black guy pull into the last disabled bay.. he got out and started to walk off. He had no badge on show and I asked (politely!!) if he was registered disabled - he said no and hurriedly walked off!! There is a never a traffic warden or copper around when you need one - I should maybe look in the doughnut aisle next time
My mum is not mentally disabled but is classed as physically disabled as she is someone who suffers from a number of debilitating illnesses, part of which affects her ability to walk - she can't even walk to the end of our garden (which is about the size of a postage stamp!!).
I don't think that she should be penalised just because she isn't in a wheelchair? Disabled doesn't just mean you are wheelchair bound - it's a pretty narrow minded view to think that all disabled people are!! That's why spaces are put closer to the entrances etc!!
I'd think twice before labelling people who seem to walk fine as not being disabled - you don't know what is wrong with them - it's not GP's who hand these things out, you have to qualify under certain rules...
People should be moaning more about Parent & child spaces.. our local Tescos has these right outside the store entrance whilst the disabled bays are futher away
It's a parents choice (in most instances
) to have kids - a person doesn't choose to be disabled.The Disability Discrimination Act (DDA) defines a disabled person as someone who has a physical or mental impairment that has a substantial and long-term adverse effect on his or her ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities.
The disabled parking badge scheme is a national scheme for people who:
- Are registered blind or
- Have severe walking difficulties or
- Regularly drive but are unable to turn the steering wheel by hand.
Even though you have got more space in the bays, you still get dints.!!!
And spack! What an awful word!!
Cheryl
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13 May 2006, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by chezb
I aint got a wheelchair, or zimmerframe, and to look at me it doesn't look like theres owt wrong with me apart from a bit of a limp, but I'm in pain 24/7, even with painkillers!!
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Some people on here have no experience and no knowledge of disabilities but of course they know it all.
My wife is in her 30's and looks 100% fit and healthy, she's been to scooby meets and only a few more clued up people know of her problems.
It's the same when we use disabled bays, we even get comments from elderly disabled because we both get out of the car and walk away. In supermarkets she's had comments from the checkout people because she cant bend to pick stuff out of the troller and either myself or her mother do it all.
She takes pain killers every day and now manages her pain well but flare ups are always just round the corner.
A couple of years ago we got stuck on the motorway for a few hours, by the time we got home I had to help her from the car, after a week of strong pain relief her stomach started to suffer.
The end result was a 7 week stay in hospital all through Christmas and New Year.
People should remember just because people look heathly doesn't mean they are.
Cheers
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13 May 2006, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Diesel,
I hear what you're saying, but it's not what it's about is it? If there are a dozen empty spaces and the time in the store is going to be 5 minutes, the chances of twelve disabled people turning up during this period are infinitesimal. Able bodied people using limited spaces for long periods is clearly unacceptable and deserves condemnation, but that's not what Gazza and I are saying.
I hear what you're saying, but it's not what it's about is it? If there are a dozen empty spaces and the time in the store is going to be 5 minutes, the chances of twelve disabled people turning up during this period are infinitesimal. Able bodied people using limited spaces for long periods is clearly unacceptable and deserves condemnation, but that's not what Gazza and I are saying.
13 May 2006, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel
I understand the common sense and discretion you mention there of course, but I wouldnt personally do it as it is no great hardship to walk a few more feet after all. I literallly just wouldnt go there. D
13 May 2006, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Do his posts count though? 
Fantastic Indeed they do
AAll 2276+ of them
13 May 2006, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Fair one and thanks for the reply. Upon reflection, and having read some of the testimonies, I think perhaps people like me ought to show more sensitivity. One doesn't always consider who may be reading a thread and how comments may be interpreted. I'll certainly think of this thread next time we're at Sainsburys and I moan to the GF about all the empty disabled spaces.
13 May 2006, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Fair one and thanks for the reply. Upon reflection, and having read some of the testimonies, I think perhaps people like me ought to show more sensitivity. One doesn't always consider who may be reading a thread and how comments may be interpreted. I'll certainly think of this thread next time we're at Sainsburys and I moan to the GF about all the empty disabled spaces.
Nice one, JT
14 May 2006, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Diesel,
I hear what you're saying, but it's not what it's about is it? If there are a dozen empty spaces and the time in the store is going to be 5 minutes, the chances of twelve disabled people turning up during this period are infinitesimal. Able bodied people using limited spaces for long periods is clearly unacceptable and deserves condemnation, but that's not what Gazza and I are saying.
I hear what you're saying, but it's not what it's about is it? If there are a dozen empty spaces and the time in the store is going to be 5 minutes, the chances of twelve disabled people turning up during this period are infinitesimal. Able bodied people using limited spaces for long periods is clearly unacceptable and deserves condemnation, but that's not what Gazza and I are saying.
14 May 2006, 10:02 AM
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My sis has a disabled badge and so does my nan.
My sister is unable to get out of a car in a small space so hopefully all of you who do park in a disabled spot one day are unfortunate enough to have my dad park up next to your car with my sister in it having been unable to find a free disabled spot and put a huge ding in your door.
She is also unble to walk long distances and has a wheelchair as she has been known to collapse unexpectedly - it doesn't matter if there are cars around either so I am sure you undisabled people wouldn't mind her collapsing against your vehicle and denting it (she isn't small).
Just food for thought.
My sister is unable to get out of a car in a small space so hopefully all of you who do park in a disabled spot one day are unfortunate enough to have my dad park up next to your car with my sister in it having been unable to find a free disabled spot and put a huge ding in your door.
She is also unble to walk long distances and has a wheelchair as she has been known to collapse unexpectedly - it doesn't matter if there are cars around either so I am sure you undisabled people wouldn't mind her collapsing against your vehicle and denting it (she isn't small).
Just food for thought.
14 May 2006, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Paul, the first one pm'd me on a special 'ninja keyboard' disagreeing with being called one. 
I've sent him a word puzzle to keep him busy.
Sorry but
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14 May 2006, 10:51 AM
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KiwiGTI,
If you really meant that post of yours then you are a selfish unthinking idiot!
What is the biggest problem a disabled person has, especially with regard to distance and personal agility? Think about that for a couple of minutes.
Well said JT, I was very disappointed to see some of the extremely selfish comments about the disabled on this thread.
Les
If you really meant that post of yours then you are a selfish unthinking idiot!
What is the biggest problem a disabled person has, especially with regard to distance and personal agility? Think about that for a couple of minutes.
Well said JT, I was very disappointed to see some of the extremely selfish comments about the disabled on this thread.
Les
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14 May 2006, 11:27 AM
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I have just read through all these posts, both with my teeth gritted and a grin on my face.
Firstly, Respect to JT for taking on board and accepting the 'real life' situation affecting people.
My Mum was disabled late in life and lives far from me. Since my dad died relatively early in his retirement she has to drive herself to the local town where the are only three disbaled bays. She does not have a wheel chair but walking and getting in an out of the drivers seat is a real chore for her.
SO!, You can imagine my utter-utter disgust of anyone who is of such low esteem and morals, to knowingly park somewhere that has been set out to make someones life a little more bearable.
Of course, if we all paid more tax to cover the cost of ferrying all the disbaled people about, the problem would go away. (As-if!) But those spaces would be taken up by everybody who does not normally park in them, long before the to$$er brigade get a chance.
My kids are mobile now, get in and out the car by themselves and can hold my hand for the slarlem course to the shop.
When they were little and every trip was military exercise involving 'changing bags, warmed up milk bottles and 10 minutes of preparation, before you could leave the house', you could never guarantee a parent space.
I have seen all sorts parked there from Transit vans with two guys in, to Ferraris above the rules, to parents with teenagers.
None of which need to collect a trolley, take it back to the car, put the kids and changing bags etc in, before you even get into the shop.
There is a reason for these types of bays. The reasons are well thought out, but not explained well enough.
Firstly, Respect to JT for taking on board and accepting the 'real life' situation affecting people.
My Mum was disabled late in life and lives far from me. Since my dad died relatively early in his retirement she has to drive herself to the local town where the are only three disbaled bays. She does not have a wheel chair but walking and getting in an out of the drivers seat is a real chore for her.
SO!, You can imagine my utter-utter disgust of anyone who is of such low esteem and morals, to knowingly park somewhere that has been set out to make someones life a little more bearable.
Of course, if we all paid more tax to cover the cost of ferrying all the disbaled people about, the problem would go away. (As-if!) But those spaces would be taken up by everybody who does not normally park in them, long before the to$$er brigade get a chance.
My kids are mobile now, get in and out the car by themselves and can hold my hand for the slarlem course to the shop.
When they were little and every trip was military exercise involving 'changing bags, warmed up milk bottles and 10 minutes of preparation, before you could leave the house', you could never guarantee a parent space.
I have seen all sorts parked there from Transit vans with two guys in, to Ferraris above the rules, to parents with teenagers.
None of which need to collect a trolley, take it back to the car, put the kids and changing bags etc in, before you even get into the shop.
There is a reason for these types of bays. The reasons are well thought out, but not explained well enough.
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15 May 2006, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by richieh
thats because you obviously know **** all-"worthy" and "privilidge" FFS
and here you prove it
congratulations-you are a first order feckwit.
richie
and here you prove it
congratulations-you are a first order feckwit.
richie
- check all of my other posts and try to find me a single spelling or grammatical error, by the way) is that you think I'm a feckwit because I don't give out disabled badges to people who have no need for them? Have I confused you with my post? What don't you agree with about it? You're implying that you feel that any doctor who refuses to give someone a disabled badge when it's not required, is a feckwit and that you believe that everyone should be given a badge regardless of their condition. I think you've just made a bit of a tit of yourself there richieh...Well done mate!
15 May 2006, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by mad_dr
So what you're saying (apart from that you believe that my spelling discounts my opinion - check all of my other posts and try to find me a single spelling or grammatical error, by the way) is that you think I'm a feckwit because I don't give out disabled badges to people who have no need for them? Have I confused you with my post? What don't you agree with about it? You're implying that you feel that any doctor who refuses to give someone a disabled badge when it's not required, is a feckwit and that you believe that everyone should be given a badge regardless of their condition. I think you've just made a bit of a tit of yourself there richieh...
Well done mate!
- check all of my other posts and try to find me a single spelling or grammatical error, by the way) is that you think I'm a feckwit because I don't give out disabled badges to people who have no need for them? Have I confused you with my post? What don't you agree with about it? You're implying that you feel that any doctor who refuses to give someone a disabled badge when it's not required, is a feckwit and that you believe that everyone should be given a badge regardless of their condition. I think you've just made a bit of a tit of yourself there richieh...Well done mate!
cheers richie
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ASDA have a secured disabled area with barrier control. It uses number plate recognition. It's a bit of a pain the first time as you have to go and register with your blue badge, but there after, just drive up and it lets you in. Seems to work very well.
15 May 2006, 09:05 AM
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This might be someone on here.You parked your old 'classic' knackered Impreza in one of these spots at Sainsburys,Cannock.In fact you took up one and a half spots.
Your car was distinguishable by the St Georges cross on the bonnet (big flag) and on both the doors.You were also flying the plastic St George flags.The car had a huuuuuuge rear spoiler.
You were dressed sloppily,including slippers.Yes it was a mother baby spot but you had no one else in the car with you .Not even child seats.
I will check the numerous Flag threads to see if you have made an appearance to defend them.
Your car was distinguishable by the St Georges cross on the bonnet (big flag) and on both the doors.You were also flying the plastic St George flags.The car had a huuuuuuge rear spoiler.
You were dressed sloppily,including slippers.Yes it was a mother baby spot but you had no one else in the car with you
.Not even child seats.I will check the numerous Flag threads to see if you have made an appearance to defend them.
15 May 2006, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Iwan
I've seen the Police parking there many times while they've been buying their lunch, but today was the first time I've seen 2 of their cars parked there. I know sometimes they are there on official busness but I don't think walking in and buying sandwiches counts. Besides, official business or not it means that the taxis have to stop and block traffic to pick people up.
I'm not one to write to the Chief Constable but do think it sets a pretty bad example, its no wonder that lazy chavscum park there if they see the Police doing it.
15 May 2006, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by richieh
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Originally Posted by richieh
spelling and grammar dont really bother me-its use of the words worthy and privileged - i think you'll find that most disabled persons would wish they weren't worthy of that privilege-even the ones you find to be sufficiently able by a glance.
cheers richie
cheers richie
Privilidge is used instead of using the phrase "have the right to park there"
I don't think either were used in the context you thought they were.
HTH
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Originally Posted by mad_dr
Worthy was used to denote someone who has a genuine need for closer access to the store as opposed to someone who is unworthy (the person Iwan saw, for instance)
Privilidge is used instead of using the phrase "have the right to park there"
I don't think either were used in the context you thought they were.
HTH
Privilidge is used instead of using the phrase "have the right to park there"
I don't think either were used in the context you thought they were.
HTH
i'd usually only use worthy as in the context of an achievement-eg worthy of a medal
similarly privileged would to me imply 'lucky few'
just had a different english teacher to you then
cheers richie
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