Bring On Identity Cards!!
17 May 2006, 04:03 PM
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PSL's trolling skills are definately on the wane. He comes in triggers a few sparks but then doesn't hang a round to tend the flames and within half a page it's all fizzled out, swept in to a corner and ready for depositing in Muppets.
17 May 2006, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by suprabeast
Why should I have to prove that i'm not somewhere just because technology isn't reliable enough?
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17 May 2006, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Kieran_Burns
What happened to the "innocent until proven guilty" bit
What about the recent story that broke that civil servants are selling personal information to criminal gangs?
What about the cost?
What about the total invasion of personal liberty?
What about the fact that EVERYONE has something to fear?
what about the fact that you will not be able to get a passport without and ID card?
What about the fact that you will be able to be tracked using that card and your personal life will be totally open to scrutiny?
Pete - you're a troll, go back to hiding under the bridge.
What about the recent story that broke that civil servants are selling personal information to criminal gangs?
What about the cost?
What about the total invasion of personal liberty?
What about the fact that EVERYONE has something to fear?
what about the fact that you will not be able to get a passport without and ID card?
What about the fact that you will be able to be tracked using that card and your personal life will be totally open to scrutiny?
Pete - you're a troll, go back to hiding under the bridge.
Our personal liberties are invaded daily by armed masked thugs!!!!
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17 May 2006, 10:41 PM
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*****,
why stop at ID cards?
Why not simply chain everybody up in government controlled factories to graft away every day on pointless tasks of meaninless beaurocratic administration. We could all be fed bread and water, as why is there a need for fancy food.
Objectors should simply be shot, which would encourage everybody to fall into line very quickly.
Plus, with everybody in the factories (apart from the VIPs in govenment and their mates), CO2 emmisions from transport (cars, planes etc.) would drop to a miniscule fraction of todays levels - thus the Earth would be a better place (for some).
Oh, and we should put down everyone over the age of 75, as they don't contribute anything to society
Is this your preferred world???
mb
why stop at ID cards?
Why not simply chain everybody up in government controlled factories to graft away every day on pointless tasks of meaninless beaurocratic administration. We could all be fed bread and water, as why is there a need for fancy food.
Objectors should simply be shot, which would encourage everybody to fall into line very quickly.
Plus, with everybody in the factories (apart from the VIPs in govenment and their mates), CO2 emmisions from transport (cars, planes etc.) would drop to a miniscule fraction of todays levels - thus the Earth would be a better place (for some).
Oh, and we should put down everyone over the age of 75, as they don't contribute anything to society
Is this your preferred world???
mb
17 May 2006, 11:41 PM
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Ludicrous babbling statement that and of very little worth ......
It's about time we got TOUGH ..... you liberal girls blouses need NOT apply - this is a task for MEN, real men!!
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It's about time we got TOUGH ..... you liberal girls blouses need NOT apply - this is a task for MEN, real men!!
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17 May 2006, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
UB you have NEVER been a real man .....
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18 May 2006, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Just imagine having details on all those pikeys who want to stay hidden??? EXCELLENT!!!! 
Pete
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A field near you hopefully.
Think of some new material.
Buck
PS No major IT project, by any government, has ever been on time or on budget. This ever comes in, its just pi$$ing money down the drain. Labour government couldn't run a bath.
19 May 2006, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Blimey Leslie, you're vicious! 
Gets back from hospital and I go easy on him ....... then he lets fly
Right, gloves off Lesley you big old woman!!
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19 May 2006, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
What a tree hugging, liberal, PC BumBoy!!
Our personal liberties are invaded daily by armed masked thugs!!!!
Pete
Our personal liberties are invaded daily by armed masked thugs!!!!
Pete
19 May 2006, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonathan Davies
You're invaded daily by armed masked thugs? No wonder it's a sore point.
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19 May 2006, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Do you advocate blanket surveillance Pete?
Remember one important fact, 95% of ALL crime is carried out by 5% of the population ...... now, whats wrong with just killing the 5% and cutting crime by 95%????
Just imagine how great this country would be to live in then????
All it takes is the will .....
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19 May 2006, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Of certain individuals, yes!!
Originally Posted by pslewis
Remember one important fact, 95% of ALL crime is carried out by 5% of the population ...... now, whats wrong with just killing the 5% and cutting crime by 95%????
Originally Posted by pslewis
Just imagine how great this country would be to live in then????
19 May 2006, 09:24 PM
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I have Pete on ignore, highly recommended, however the death camps comment gave me a great laugh. If 95% of crime is caused by 5% of the population and you kill them you are then in a position where 100% of crime is caused by the remaining population. Oops, looks like that just about wraps it up for everyone.
Stalin got caught in a similar trap and ended up, after killing the opposition, killing those who appeared to support him, just in case they were lying or plotting. There are estimates from census data which indicate that he killed 26 million in Ukraine alone so it was only the vast number of people in his country that saved him from finding himself standing in the middle of the country all on his own.
Stalin got caught in a similar trap and ended up, after killing the opposition, killing those who appeared to support him, just in case they were lying or plotting. There are estimates from census data which indicate that he killed 26 million in Ukraine alone so it was only the vast number of people in his country that saved him from finding himself standing in the middle of the country all on his own.
20 May 2006, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by hedgehog
I have Pete on ignore,
On ignore, my ****!!!!!
You comment on all my posts!!! Thats quite a feat for someone as stupid as YOU!!
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21 May 2006, 04:03 AM
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Of course you can trust the authorities to always get the right person
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5001624.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5001624.stm
21 May 2006, 09:27 AM
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Quote:'However, it said it made "no apology for erring on the side of caution".
So releasing nerarly 100 serious foreign criminals was very cautious wasn't it?
This government is a total joke, and the very nature of society is also a joke today!!!
It wouldn't take the introduction of ID cards to cut crime, it would just take intelligent use of resources (ie Police) and the removal of bureaucrats who invent targets for people to achieve to justify themselves a job.
The country needs to start focussing on real problems and real solutions. Not padding out all the problems with red tape and statistics, figures etc.
There was a story in the news tis week about special mother's and family's panels being called in to dish out sentences for certain types of crime, instead of 'experts' in the field. What I want to know is what makes them experts?
Have they been the victim of this type of crime on many occasions?
Have they lived with the aftermath of being raped, or losing a child to a recently released paedophile rehomed next to a school playground?
Plainly not, they are some PsLewis clone who is devoted to the Labour bull**** of meet the target and that is all we need to do. So they say they won't commit crime again, great!
Our job is Done!!!
Well, it obviously isn't done, we need a new (or old) system where criminals don't look at the crime and say yeah, even if I do get caught I don't mind picking up litter. And I'll have a new car, or loads of money. So whats to stop them? Hand the ******* over to the mother of the poor lad he's just ejaculated over, that would stop people doing it. Or give the 17 year old lad who stole the hard working family's car to the family for a day.
As has been said before, we all had (and have) choices to make. What Labour have done more than anything is taken the blame away from the person and put it onto society. If I decided i'd steal your brand new 06 STi as far as I'm concerned it's my choice and therefore my fault. Labour seem to think that because society never offered this young man a living its our fault.
Now I don't know about you but society never did anything for me, I did it for myself. So should they!
Rant over (sort of).
So releasing nerarly 100 serious foreign criminals was very cautious wasn't it?
This government is a total joke, and the very nature of society is also a joke today!!!
It wouldn't take the introduction of ID cards to cut crime, it would just take intelligent use of resources (ie Police) and the removal of bureaucrats who invent targets for people to achieve to justify themselves a job.
The country needs to start focussing on real problems and real solutions. Not padding out all the problems with red tape and statistics, figures etc.
There was a story in the news tis week about special mother's and family's panels being called in to dish out sentences for certain types of crime, instead of 'experts' in the field. What I want to know is what makes them experts?
Have they been the victim of this type of crime on many occasions?
Have they lived with the aftermath of being raped, or losing a child to a recently released paedophile rehomed next to a school playground?
Plainly not, they are some PsLewis clone who is devoted to the Labour bull**** of meet the target and that is all we need to do. So they say they won't commit crime again, great!
Our job is Done!!!
Well, it obviously isn't done, we need a new (or old) system where criminals don't look at the crime and say yeah, even if I do get caught I don't mind picking up litter. And I'll have a new car, or loads of money. So whats to stop them? Hand the ******* over to the mother of the poor lad he's just ejaculated over, that would stop people doing it. Or give the 17 year old lad who stole the hard working family's car to the family for a day.
As has been said before, we all had (and have) choices to make. What Labour have done more than anything is taken the blame away from the person and put it onto society. If I decided i'd steal your brand new 06 STi as far as I'm concerned it's my choice and therefore my fault. Labour seem to think that because society never offered this young man a living its our fault.
Now I don't know about you but society never did anything for me, I did it for myself. So should they!
Rant over (sort of).
21 May 2006, 01:09 PM
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5001624.stm
Nearly 1,500 people have been wrongly labelled as criminals by the Criminal Records Bureau (CRB), it has emerged.
Nearly 1,500 people have been wrongly labelled as criminals by the Criminal Records Bureau (CRB), it has emerged.
22 May 2006, 04:20 PM
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Apart from the fact that the Government want to sell our personal information to private firms for commercial reaasons, and that the Home Office by all the recent disclosures appears to be totally dysfunctional, what chance have they got to manage the information on identity cards anyway. It might take as much as a week before the Crims have discovered how to clone them and extract all the information that they need to get at our bank accounts etc.
The business about labelling innocent people as criminals is just incredible. What a load of incompetent plonkers they must be for goodness sake!
What excuse do you have for all that PSL, or are you going to hide again since you can't defend the indefensible?
Les
The business about labelling innocent people as criminals is just incredible. What a load of incompetent plonkers they must be for goodness sake!
What excuse do you have for all that PSL, or are you going to hide again since you can't defend the indefensible?
Les
22 May 2006, 04:43 PM
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Amusingly it seems that in France they have introduced an ID card but within a week of a new version appearing fakes are available. The fakes are so much less expensive (about £10 I believe) than the real thing that many people are buying fakes just to save on the cash. Says it all really.