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Old 19 May 2006, 02:56 PM
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Somehow I don't see Mr Ming getting in a position to let that fellow do that.

It is certainly time that airlines had to pay tax on their fuel just like everyone else. The pollution caused by aircraft is truly enormous. And the CO2 is dumped in the worst possible place of course. 40 tons of fuel for a one way trip over the Atlantic is more than signifcant to my mind. Just think about all the aircraft flights in the world for a day!

I think Billy and his mates are too frightened of the big business tycoons to tax the fuel. Instead they are sanctioning rebuilding to increase the number of flights at the airports. The extra flights will about double the pollution we are getting now!

PSL, when it comes to links, you are the biggest "****" of the lot

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Old 19 May 2006, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Lesley
Blah, Blah, Blah Bollox, Bollox, Blah, Blah, Crap, more crap and crap again

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FFS - DIE ... you old woman!!

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Old 20 May 2006, 11:25 AM
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Looks like you can't think of an answer to that one either PSL.

Also looks like the pot calling the kettle black!

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Old 20 May 2006, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
PSL, when it comes to links, you are the biggest "****" of the lot
Quality!

Pete,

Out of interest, what's the insurance like on your shop-mobility chariot?
Old 20 May 2006, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Whats the problem

I express an opinion and some ***** jump down my neck!

Who on here would pay £2000 a year car tax to continue driving their chosen form of transport??

Plenty on here waste £1,000's 'tinkering' with their cars - I don't.

Plenty CHOOSE to pay £2000 for Insurance - I pay £300.

Some spend £100's on CockLinks and Gauges - I don't!

If I CHOOSE to spend £2000 on Car Tax thats MY CHOICE!!

So shut it!

FFS

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Pete, can i suggest contribute the extra £1800 or so to FoE, or Greenpeace. That way, you'll be able to make the contribution you so dearly desire, towards saving the planet.
Old 20 May 2006, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
Pete, can i suggest contribute the extra £1800 or so to FoE, or Greenpeace. That way, you'll be able to make the contribution you so dearly desire, towards saving the planet.
You misunderstand me .... go back and read through the thread .... I would pay £2000 IF it meant I was alone on the roads in my Scooby!!!!

I am not about to pay £2000 to drive around in a car that the Modders/Chavs have ruined!!

If it means paying £2000 to get the chavs/modders out of Scoobies and into electric buggies then I'm up for paying!!!!

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Old 20 May 2006, 08:08 PM
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[quote=pslewis]You misunderstand me .... go back and read through the thread .... I would pay £2000 IF it meant I was alone on the roads in my Scooby!!!!

I am not about to pay £2000 to drive around in a car that the Modders/Chavs have ruined!!

If it means paying £2000 to get the chavs/modders out of Scoobies and into electric buggies then I'm up for paying!!!!

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Old 20 May 2006, 11:38 PM
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You appear to have simply repeated what I said??

Have you lost the plot??

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Old 21 May 2006, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
You appear to have simply repeated what I said??

Have you lost the plot??

Pete
Nope.

Hence the word edited. I wasn't happy with my choice of words, and couldn't be arsed to retype.

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Old 21 May 2006, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
To REMOVE them from the roads completely
But removing 2No. 120g/km vehicles would have the same effect on pollution and make the roads even clearer for you (us). Therefore it would be better to increase tax on lower emitting vehicles while maintaining the current level for the highest polluters Like I said, mixed up thinking.
Old 21 May 2006, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
Nope.

Hence the word edited. I wasn't happy with my choice of words, and couldn't be arsed to retype.
But you could be arsed to type that in response???

Consult your doctor tomorrow as a matter of urgency, ask for a brain scan

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Old 21 May 2006, 11:44 AM
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PS Is everyone aware that pollution is only caused when you drive a car, not when you buy it. Tax on fuel used is a far more sensible, easily collected, and fair method of reducing pollution than VED will ever be.
Old 21 May 2006, 11:45 AM
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I would LOVE to pay my Tax on fuel .............. I have access to 3 cars and its a bit rough on me to have to pay tax on cars sat in the garage!!

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Old 21 May 2006, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by speedking
PS Is everyone aware that pollution is only caused when you drive a car, not when you buy it. Tax on fuel used is a far more sensible, easily collected, and fair method of reducing pollution than VED will ever be.
It also stops those gimps who avoid paying car tax for whatever reason
Old 21 May 2006, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by JonMc
It also stops those gimps who avoid paying car tax for whatever reason
The Pikeys steal their fuel anyway - so, it wouldn't hit them as it should ....

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Old 21 May 2006, 11:52 AM
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That problem is forecast to get worse!

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Old 21 May 2006, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by speedking
PS Is everyone aware that pollution is only caused when you drive a car, not when you buy it. Tax on fuel used is a far more sensible, easily collected, and fair method of reducing pollution than VED will ever be.
Some time back Saab ran adverts claiming that, when driving in town, the exhaust from it's car was actually cleaner than the air it took in. As this claim was never challenged and the ad was allowed to run I can only assume it was true, there are just too many green nutters out there willing to complain about every tiny thing for them not to have had the ad withdrawn if it were untrue.

CO2 isn't a pollutant, it is food for plants and cars produce so little of it as to be insignificant on a global scale, just 5 companies in the UK produce as much CO2 in a year as ALL the cars on the road.

Red Ken claimed that the object of his congestion charge was to reduce pollution. It reduced private car traffic in some areas by 30% but the various air quality monitoring stations have recorded no improvement at all in the air quality. The reason for this, of course, goes back to the Saab advert and the fact that most of the air pollution in towns comes from buses the numbers of which have not reduced in central London.

What is amazing about all of this is that we have been so brainwashed that even us as motorists are given to believing some of this rubbish. There is no question that the government wants control over the motorist but the reason for this is to do with social engineering and politics rather than pollution and the environment.
Old 22 May 2006, 04:41 PM
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That is far too complicated for PSL to deal with Hedgehog!

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Old 22 May 2006, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
But you could be arsed to type that in response???

Consult your doctor tomorrow as a matter of urgency, ask for a brain scan

Pete
My 1st response was longer, and on reflection i decided it was a little unfair on you.

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