SamUK

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For a remap an STI will require a fuel pump, though they are £80 delivered...

However i dnt think £1000 all in will do the job...unless you will be fitting all the parts yourself...and you manage get some bargin deals...

marklemac

Those figures arn't from PS's rollers, and yes they are in lbs, not NM.

R19KET

Which RR, and what did it make on PS rr when it was mapped ?

Mark.

marklemac

We did a dyno day @ Janspeed in Salisbury, on a FREEZING day in March (and I mean freezing). Other STI's on the day were getting good power 360-380bhp, and standard cars with no mods were bang on their power too, so it was a good comparison. On PS's rollers on a warm day when mapped I got 385.

There was also an 02 WRX @ the Janspeed day and it ran around 356bhp, and again this was a PS mapped car, and attained the same power at PS when mapped.

So as I was saying I can't fault Rich's mapping. He has done an excellent job on my car, its nice to drive, I regularly get 300-330 miles to a tank when cruising around (I do 1-2k miles a month), and its a hoot when you boot it , plus it has been very reliable over the 3 yrs I had it. I'm done now with engine mods, as I need to use it as a daily driver.

GRIFF007

sounds interesting - any idea what that would be without FMIC and at what cost?

Davey P

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I don't doubt the power figure but the torque figure still seems higher than what it should be.
Some friends of mine had there cars rr'd at Janspeed and the results were "interesting" to say the least.

RB5_245

nope. almost common misconception, brought on by scare mongers and 'no nowt' 'my car was tuned by so & so's'

Your STI fuel pump is fine till 350bhp for sure, will prob take 400bhp with no probs.

SamUK

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Thats an intresting point..as all of the tuners that i have called have said it will.... even for the 333 package they change the pump..

maybe it helps...but not essential..?

RB5_245

It won't give you more power, it's more of a safety net against failure. I have one, and would recommend one 'just in case' but at that sort of power level, if it really needed changing then the WR1 would have one. After all, they come with a warrenty so it's in the manufacturers interest not to have them all blow up.

GRIFF007

guys - are we getting confused? If a Prodrive pump is fitted ok - however std sti is lower rated - I imagine WR1 has Pro pump / Walbro

davedipster

The WR1 has an uprated 225l walbro pump.

frayz

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This is **** mate, a UK sti WILL require anm uprated fuel pump even if its only been decatted. it will det like crazy after 5.5k rpm due to lean mixture.

WR1s had the 255 installed already so will be fine.

Get some det cans and find out for yourself.

RB5_245

I don't believe for a second that subaru fitted a pump that is so close to the limits, and so much lower rated than the std pump on the classic that a decat alone will push it over the top.

If the WR1 comes with an uprated pump then I was wrong in that regard.

ZEN Performance

A standard pump will not maintain proper fuel pressure if you are trying to get 350hp, and not a hope in hell of reaching 400hp. Prodrive fit a walbro pump in both the WR1 and regular STI PPP conversions for good reason.

ZEN Performance

If I knew you had the standard pump in, I wouldn't map the car.

SamUK

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Paul,

Just sent you a PM....

--Sam

alwong

Paul,

Thanks for your work on my TSL 333 remap!
I had my car upgraded on Monday at TSL and it runs very nicely!!

SamUK

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Nice to hear you are happy with it...how much did it end up costing in the end?

Butty

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Sam,
if it helps, then this is the cost of work on my WRX wagon fro similar output that you're looking for.
The costs will be IRO the same for the STi apart for the intercooler, injectors & turbo. The TGV delete route is open to debate.
Starting model was a WRX Wagon with PPP. I kept the Prodrive rear box.

Sti intercooler £250
STi PPP fuel pump Ebay £65
3 port solenoid new £65
STi Prodrive sports cat Ebay £275
VF35 Ebay £300. I then ported this.
Std headers & up-pipe £45. I ported these.
Snorkelectomy. Cost nothing.
STi Gp N air filter £45. STi Racing.
Spec C inlet manifold with pink injectors £260. I removed TGV dividers & ported TB & inlet.

Starting with a std STi, not doing the TGV removal anddoing your own porting then parts costs are £700. Mapping would be on top.

Paul @ Zen did the mapping on mine and produced 280bhp @ wheels (Delta dash road dyno) with 1.5 bar tapering to 1.3 bar.

I've Pmd you as well.

Nick

alwong

Firstly they take the car out and they inspect it to make sure there isn't any faults with the vehicle. Once all problems have been sorted they upgrade your car with the new parts. Then Paul goes out with a chap called Graham and maps the vehicle specific to your car.

It cost me £2k including a few things they needed to fix. If your car is perfect it'll cost you approx £1,800.

Just like to say the service and professionalism was excellent there.
They are certainly not the cheapest but they do a fantastic job.

I'm now very please with the car!

SamUK

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Cool...


I was just browsing Scoobyworlds site, who are offering free delivery on all items...

They do a Afterburner Performacne Pack which contains the following:

• Afterburner Vortex Ultra-High Performance Rear Silencer (angled exit).
• Afterburner Centre section
• Afterburner decat 'Cat' pipe
• JR Performance Panel filter

The original downpipe is retained, for emmision reasons.
The above is for £500 inc VAT, which i think is a good price...


The above fitting costs are near £200 inc VAT

Walbro Fuel Pump £80 in VAT

Then all is left is is MAP, at near £550ish...


So i guess the question is...just how good is the Aferburner Performance pack?

Granby

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Don't think it would cost £200 for fitting as at a max i would say it takes about a hour, you could always fit it yourself

The Fixer

You could also try TRL in West Yorkshire 01422 241241.

Full 3" System & Decat Downpipe
Walboro Pump
ECUTEK remap
Fitting of Pump
Fitting of Exhaust
£1400+ VAT

Conrad

SamUK

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Okay...so i know little more of how this works...The exchaust is made up of the following parts:

CAT Downpipe, a 2nd CAT Pipe, Center Section and a Backbox.



Can someone please clarify:

Route 1 - TSL Thundercat Sports CAT downpipe, Centrr Seciton & Back Box

This setup will pass the MOT without any isses.

Route 2 - Decat 2nd CAT pipe, Centre Section, and Back box.

Will this pass the MOT as it will still have the first original CAT in place? will the performance still be there with the original CAT? will it improve more if i were to replace this with a Prodrive Sports cat?


--Sam

SamUK

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anyone?

GazTheHat

It's good. But it's gonna be loud. I had the AB decat downpipe also, but have the Ninja backbox, i had to buy a bung (H&S - £35) for motorway & wifey miles. If you changed the downpipe, you'll be lOOking at a "package"
performance level.

GazTheHat

Route 2 will pass the emmissions. I've been told the cat in the downpipe is the most effective. You'll get good gains by replacing the downpipe though. For a decat downpipe, you're lOOKing about £200 (AB Decat Downpipe), a sports cat only loses about 3 or so bhp i've also heard, but they're around the £500 mark.

SamUK

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I am going to get me a Prodrive Back Box tommorow...
Also will be ordering the TSL Group N Panel Filter

Question:

1. Am i ok to fit the back box on? (with out the remap)
2. Is it ok to get the air filter in?
3. Will i notice any small increase in performance after iinstalling the bb and filter?

I am under the impression that a remap will be required for when i change the down pipe, also to make the most of the performance gains from the mods... ??

Granby

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1. It's fine no remap needed just for a backbox
2. Yes
3. You may find a slight increase in performance but nothing major

GazTheHat

As above

But with #3, didn't notice any performance gains, but gained induction noise from the filter and the noise from the backbox will make you believe you're going faster