Notices
Non Scooby Related Anything Non-Scooby related

Views on child maintainance

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04 June 2006, 11:21 PM
  #121  
cookstar
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
cookstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Stroke it baby!
Posts: 33,828
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by speed demoness
thats what he's telling me cookstar! ( ie that he's skint).. and I very much doubt he is.... just an excuse.

and is that 15% per child ??

what i was getting at originally tho.. it's been the same rate now for 5 years.... not once has he increased it.. or offered to buy the kids clothes... except for their birthday present. I've asked a few times over the last couple of years... but the excuse is always the same. I wouldn't mind if he offered to drive the 125 miles to come and pick them up every once in a while

15% for 1 child
20% for 2 children
25% for 3 kids or more

Not that i think these figures are fair by any means, there is a very small allowance made if he is responsible or living with other kids now.

Dont get your hopes up though, as th CSA are taking on no new claims
Old 05 June 2006, 12:00 AM
  #122  
speed demoness
Scooby Regular
 
speed demoness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Durham
Posts: 560
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

never gone thru the csa.. it's always been a verbal agreement ( if you can call it that!) between me and the ex.

Will see what happens when he gets back off his hols !
tho i can see this happening.....
Old 05 June 2006, 07:07 AM
  #123  
*Sonic*
Scooby Regular
 
*Sonic*'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: R.I.P Piphead, at least you are home now :(
Posts: 10,026
Received 15 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by cookstar
15% for 1 child
20% for 2 children
25% for 3 kids or more

Not that i think these figures are fair by any means, there is a very small allowance made if he is responsible or living with other kids now.

Dont get your hopes up though, as the CSA are taking on no new claims
Im not enitrely sure how fair those figures are, there are reductions too if the child / children spend at least one night a week at the non resident parents

Plus if you think when you are together, how much of your salary went on the child / children (probably a lot of it) when you work out food, electric, gas, water (if on a meter, esp with kids, washer on 5 times a day, baths, petrol to school n back, clothes, shoes, xmas, birthdays etc etc)

I know when I split up with my ex (and her two kids) suddenly it felt like I had won the lottery with the amount of spare cash I had every month
Old 05 June 2006, 07:42 AM
  #124  
cookstar
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
cookstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Stroke it baby!
Posts: 33,828
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by *Sonic*
Im not enitrely sure how fair those figures are, there are reductions too if the child / children spend at least one night a week at the non resident parents

Plus if you think when you are together, how much of your salary went on the child / children (probably a lot of it) when you work out food, electric, gas, water (if on a meter, esp with kids, washer on 5 times a day, baths, petrol to school n back, clothes, shoes, xmas, birthdays etc etc)

I know when I split up with my ex (and her two kids) suddenly it felt like I had won the lottery with the amount of spare cash I had every month

You are right about the other deduction, but it is minimal, maybe a £3-4 a week or something like that.

I still maintain that it does not cost over £100 per week to keep a six year old,

1, I still buy him Birthday Christmas pressies (as you mentioned)
2, I still buy a LOT of his clothes
3, Loads of other stuff that theres no point listing.

I am keeping his mother, which grinds a fair bit I must say
Old 05 June 2006, 08:35 AM
  #125  
scott8629
Scooby Regular
 
scott8629's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 439
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I pay 200GBP/month for my 2 year old. Im sure it does not cost that as my ex lives with her mum & dad. It grips me to think she is spending my daughters cash on herself.

Scott
Old 05 June 2006, 08:44 AM
  #126  
*Sonic*
Scooby Regular
 
*Sonic*'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: R.I.P Piphead, at least you are home now :(
Posts: 10,026
Received 15 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by cookstar
You are right about the other deduction, but it is minimal, maybe a £3-4 a week or something like that.

I still maintain that it does not cost over £100 per week to keep a six year old,

1, I still buy him Birthday Christmas pressies (as you mentioned)
2, I still buy a LOT of his clothes
3, Loads of other stuff that theres no point listing.

I am keeping his mother, which grinds a fair bit I must say
No 100 quid a week does seem a lot for one child, i think some of problem lies in the fact that amounts tend to be calculated on percentages

So if someone is earning a fortune, they have to pay a fortune to assist with the upbringing of their child/children, when someone on a lower income pays less (probably more in line with real costs of bringing up children)

it shouldnt be exclusive either that the non resident parent (cos they are on a good income) pays for more or less the entire raising costs of children, but at least to help contribute in some way

like you say, buying presents, clothes, toys etc as well as 100 quid a week is probably excessive
Old 05 June 2006, 08:46 AM
  #127  
speed demoness
Scooby Regular
 
speed demoness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Durham
Posts: 560
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by scott8629
I pay 200GBP/month for my 2 year old. Im sure it does not cost that as my ex lives with her mum & dad. It grips me to think she is spending my daughters cash on herself.

Scott
wow... £200 for 1 child... and at 2years old.. she deffinately won't need that sort of money... fair enough.. there's costs like nappies and clothes etc.. but it's highly unlikely that it would all cost £200 a month!

I'm getting more and more angry with my ex as this topic goes on... I have 3 daughters and get only a total amount of £120 per month
Old 05 June 2006, 08:48 AM
  #128  
cookstar
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
cookstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Stroke it baby!
Posts: 33,828
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by *Sonic*
No 100 quid a week does seem a lot for one child, i think some of problem lies in the fact that amounts tend to be calculated on percentages

So if someone is earning a fortune, they have to pay a fortune to assist with the upbringing of their child/children, when someone on a lower income pays less (probably more in line with real costs of bringing up children)

it shouldnt be exclusive either that the non resident parent (cos they are on a good income) pays for more or less the entire raising costs of children, but at least to help contribute in some way

like you say, buying presents, clothes, toys etc as well as 100 quid a week is probably excessive

There just is no point getting worked up over it though, she has me by the ***** and knows it.

I never want my son to know that I resented paying out for him, so let it slide now, more important things to worry about.

He is happy and does not go without
Old 05 June 2006, 09:01 AM
  #129  
image doctor
Scooby Regular
 
image doctor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,238
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by speed demoness
wow... £200 for 1 child... and at 2years old.. she deffinately won't need that sort of money... fair enough.. there's costs like nappies and clothes etc.. but it's highly unlikely that it would all cost £200 a month!

I'm getting more and more angry with my ex as this topic goes on... I have 3 daughters and get only a total amount of £120 per month
It might not cost £200 per month.

But women have to stop working, arrange child care, work part time or reduced hours for less money....while the bloke moans about a couple of hundred quid.

Kids cost money............fact.

My partner has a child from a previous relationship, I assume the father would like her to have her own bedroom, and live in a nice area and go to a nice school etc?

....well why shouldn't he pay for some of that?

Quit moaning and pay your what you owe.
Old 05 June 2006, 09:11 AM
  #130  
speed demoness
Scooby Regular
 
speed demoness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Durham
Posts: 560
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

thats all well and good... but what if you can't get the money out of the bastid in the first place !!!

I'd be more than happy with £200 a month for all 3 of my girls.... never mind just 1 of em.

all these posts are really putting into perspective what a total tw@t my ex really is and how he really doesn't seem to care about his daughters... 'they don't live with him so why should he bother with them' sort of attitude.

Well... thanks to you guys.. he's gonna get a nasty wake up call when he gets back off his hols!!!!!!
I'm now awake and I can smell the coffee!!!!
Old 05 June 2006, 09:38 AM
  #131  
cookstar
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
cookstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Stroke it baby!
Posts: 33,828
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

[quote=image doctor]It might not cost £200 per month.

But women have to stop working, arrange child care, work part time or reduced hours for less money....while the bloke moans about a couple of hundred quid.

Kids cost money............fact.

My partner has a child from a previous relationship, I assume the father would like her to have her own bedroom, and live in a nice area and go to a nice school etc?

....well why shouldn't he pay for some of that?

Quit moaning and pay your what you owe.[/quote]


Its attitudes like that that really **** me off


We were having a discussion not moaning
Old 05 June 2006, 09:48 AM
  #132  
image doctor
Scooby Regular
 
image doctor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,238
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

It's the fact you think you are keeping the childs mother.

You got her pregnant, she had to give up work, her career was halted while yours was not.

So yes I think you should have to fund her a bit.
Old 05 June 2006, 09:51 AM
  #133  
cookstar
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
cookstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Stroke it baby!
Posts: 33,828
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by image doctor
It's the fact you think you are keeping the childs mother.

You got her pregnant, she had to give up work, her career was halted while yours was not.

So yes I think you should have to fund her a bit.

It takes two people to concieve a child, she has not given up work, she works full time while MY FAMILY look after my son.

So Why the hell should I keep her, best you know all the fact before passing judgement
Old 05 June 2006, 09:51 AM
  #134  
cookstar
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
cookstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Stroke it baby!
Posts: 33,828
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by image doctor
It's the fact you think you are keeping the childs mother.

You got her pregnant, she had to give up work, her career was halted while yours was not.

So yes I think you should have to fund her a bit.

It takes two people to concieve a child, she has not given up work, she works full time while MY FAMILY look after my son.

So Why the hell should I keep her, best you know all the fact before passing judgement
Old 05 June 2006, 09:52 AM
  #135  
speed demoness
Scooby Regular
 
speed demoness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Durham
Posts: 560
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by image doctor
It's the fact you think you are keeping the childs mother.

You got her pregnant, she had to give up work, her career was halted while yours was not.

So yes I think you should have to fund her a bit.
i don't think anyone is disputing the fact that maintainence should be paid.
there's just lots of different amounts... some of the mothers/fathers who have custody of their children get paid too much.. while others get next to nothing.. if they get anything at all!

Do you have kids then image doc?
Old 05 June 2006, 09:53 AM
  #136  
cookstar
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
cookstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Stroke it baby!
Posts: 33,828
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by image doctor
It's the fact you think you are keeping the childs mother.

You got her pregnant, she had to give up work, her career was halted while yours was not.

So yes I think you should have to fund her a bit.
Hang on there...

It takes two people to concieve a child

She still works full time, while both My family and I look after him and collect him from school etc.

So really why the hell should i keep her at all
Old 05 June 2006, 10:10 AM
  #137  
Turbohot
Scooby Regular
 
Turbohot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 48,539
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

But she has him as his full-time parent,you see him part-time.

Just justifying child maintenance here..........
Old 05 June 2006, 10:17 AM
  #138  
davegtt
Scooby Senior
 
davegtt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Next door to the WiFi connection
Posts: 16,293
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Turbohot
But she has him as his full-time parent,you see him part-time.

Just justifying child maintenance here..........
So in that case your asking to be paid because your the full time parent, not because it costs to keep the child. Many fathers would prefer to the the full time parent and probably feel that the one missing out on the childs up bringing should be paid compensation
Old 05 June 2006, 10:30 AM
  #139  
Turbohot
Scooby Regular
 
Turbohot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 48,539
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by davegtt
So in that case your asking to be paid because your the full time parent, not because it costs to keep the child. Many fathers would prefer to the the full time parent and probably feel that the one missing out on the childs up bringing should be paid compensation

I personally never asked to be paid.There is a post by me knocking about somewhere on this thread how I handled it in in my situation.

Mother will get paid because,she is a full time parent.Think about it.It costs to keep a child full time.

If the fathers are good enough to compromise their pub-going routines,freedom to do so-called musculine things,then,they should offer to have the child full time.If their ex-partners are on good wage,they will pay maintenance instead.

In my situation,my ex-husband preferred me to have children because,he felt that the mother plays an important part in child's upbringing; more important than the father's.She should be the full time parent.I could never have been a part-time parent,noway!It would have driven me insane to see my children just for one or,two nights a week!I wanted them to be with me.Moreover,he needed time and his freedom to develop his new business.

I never claimed anything from my ex-husband.Not that he couldn't pay me,but I just did not want to.
Old 06 June 2006, 03:12 PM
  #140  
Karl 228
Scooby Regular
 
Karl 228's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Up my ring...
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I think its pretty disgusting if a father cant be bothered to see his kids, or pay any money at all for their upbringing, whilst they would rather go swanning off round the country on jollies and weekends away, all night parties, and spend money on themselves on non essential items, and watch whilst their kids go without the basic essentials like clothing

Those kind of fathers should be castrated then shot
Old 06 June 2006, 10:58 PM
  #141  
mart360
Scooby Regular
 
mart360's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 12,329
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Just had my threatening letter from the happy people at the csa...

as you know i was recently out of work, for which they had a go at me (i kid you not) so when i resumed work, i payed my payment as normal, now ive had the "we see there has been a change in your income", we want it letter!!

the usual veiled threats, offences under law etc, all my details and my partners + wage slips etc by next wednesday, or else...


here we go for the usual round of phone calls and threats..


Mart
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
KAS35RSTI
Subaru
27
04 November 2021 07:12 PM
Abx
Subaru
22
09 January 2016 05:42 PM
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
12
18 November 2015 07:03 AM
south_scoob
ScoobyNet General
22
03 October 2015 01:05 PM
LostUser
Non Scooby Related
11
29 September 2015 11:00 AM



Quick Reply: Views on child maintainance



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:00 AM.