Motorbike Number Plate On A Scoob
06 June 2006 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by chris25uk
i agree with most of what you say, you can say it about most things... have you ever broken the speed limit? how would you feel if a speeding scooby driver knocked down someone? we all have at some point bent or broken laws. all im saying is as im sure the plates are not legal, they are clear, can be seen very easily. loads of laws are broken on modded cars, some you wouldnt even know about..lights are best for that. how many people on the road these days use 100w headlight bulbs?? anyway rest assured mate they really aint that small..nothing like the pic above
What the bloody point of doing this in the first place
06 June 2006 | 01:09 PM
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OK lets make things a bit clearer.
My front plate is WHITE
My front plate is a slimline plate, not SQUARE and is categorised as a bike plate.
I know the official legal rules on plates BOB'5 (damn do you work for the gov or something?). No wonder your post counts so high
referring back to my initial post, all I wanted to know is whats the worst I can expect from the law?
So I'm looking at £30 worst case ! END OF
My front plate is WHITE
My front plate is a slimline plate, not SQUARE and is categorised as a bike plate.
I know the official legal rules on plates BOB'5 (damn do you work for the gov or something?). No wonder your post counts so high
referring back to my initial post, all I wanted to know is whats the worst I can expect from the law?
So I'm looking at £30 worst case ! END OF
06 June 2006 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
This is a really interesting debate, but at the risk of being slagged of I thought I'd ask the obvious question:
What the bloody point of doing this in the first place
What the bloody point of doing this in the first place
wont be no slagging off coming from me mate, only point is looks. if you prefer or think smaller/different style plates look better.
06 June 2006 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jap Import
OK lets make things a bit clearer.
My front plate is WHITE
My front plate is a slimline plate, not SQUARE and is categorised as a bike plate.
I know the official legal rules on plates BOB'5 (damn do you work for the gov or something?). No wonder your post counts so high
referring back to my initial post, all I wanted to know is whats the worst I can expect from the law?
So I'm looking at £30 worst case ! END OF
My front plate is WHITE
My front plate is a slimline plate, not SQUARE and is categorised as a bike plate.
I know the official legal rules on plates BOB'5 (damn do you work for the gov or something?). No wonder your post counts so high
referring back to my initial post, all I wanted to know is whats the worst I can expect from the law?
So I'm looking at £30 worst case ! END OF
06 June 2006 | 01:13 PM
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From: romford essex
Originally Posted by Jap Import
OK lets make things a bit clearer.
My front plate is WHITE
My front plate is a slimline plate, not SQUARE and is categorised as a bike plate.
I know the official legal rules on plates BOB'5 (damn do you work for the gov or something?). No wonder your post counts so high
referring back to my initial post, all I wanted to know is whats the worst I can expect from the law?
So I'm looking at £30 worst case ! END OF
My front plate is WHITE
My front plate is a slimline plate, not SQUARE and is categorised as a bike plate.
I know the official legal rules on plates BOB'5 (damn do you work for the gov or something?). No wonder your post counts so high
referring back to my initial post, all I wanted to know is whats the worst I can expect from the law?
So I'm looking at £30 worst case ! END OF
06 June 2006 | 01:24 PM
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From: Type 25. Build No.34
Originally Posted by chris25uk
wont be no slagging off coming from me mate, only point is looks. if you prefer or think smaller/different style plates look better.
06 June 2006 | 01:28 PM
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From: romford essex
Originally Posted by Martin2005
But they're not supposed to be a fashion accessory
06 June 2006 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
Because it looks rubbish......
. No matter how small your plate is, you'll still have more airflow with the plate as above., and It'll never get a fine .tbh any plates that i see mounted low on the splitter or higher on the bumper don't look that great either imo.
06 June 2006 | 01:45 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong (probably), but I think the DVLA can take your numberplate away and issue you with a Q plate if you are a repeat offender.
In addition, if there is proof you have a plate that is not fully legal (font/spacing/size etc), and the worst happens (car stolen), the insurance may not pay out as the Police can argue that their cameras are unable to read it, and thus harder to trace.
In addition, if there is proof you have a plate that is not fully legal (font/spacing/size etc), and the worst happens (car stolen), the insurance may not pay out as the Police can argue that their cameras are unable to read it, and thus harder to trace.
06 June 2006 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by rossi_p
Correct me if I'm wrong (probably), but I think the DVLA can take your numberplate away and issue you with a Q plate if you are a repeat offender.
In addition, if there is proof you have a plate that is not fully legal (font/spacing/size etc), and the worst happens (car stolen), the insurance may not pay out as the Police can argue that their cameras are unable to read it, and thus harder to trace.
In addition, if there is proof you have a plate that is not fully legal (font/spacing/size etc), and the worst happens (car stolen), the insurance may not pay out as the Police can argue that their cameras are unable to read it, and thus harder to trace.
06 June 2006 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by chris25uk
if your cars stolen i cant see the plate being an issue, for starters you can argue whoever took the car changed the plates thus making it harder to trace????
06 June 2006 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rossi_p
Correct me if I'm wrong (probably), but I think the DVLA can take your numberplate away and issue you with a Q plate if you are a repeat offender..
Originally Posted by rossi_p
In addition, if there is proof you have a plate that is not fully legal (font/spacing/size etc), and the worst happens (car stolen), the insurance may not pay out as the Police can argue that their cameras are unable to read it, and thus harder to trace.
This (small/modified/"fallen off" plate)argument falls into two camps really, those who scream its illegal cos they quite fancy the idea but havent got the nerve to carry it off and those who actually do it.
Ive had small/fancy/fallen off/broken in half plates since the mid 80's on my vehicles and been stopped once and got a telling off.
A chance event I consider well worth taking.
06 June 2006 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LiamWR1(2)
Is it legal to have a bonnet stickered number plate? not 100% convinced on how it would look though
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06 June 2006 | 06:38 PM
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"PART II
REGISTRATION PLATES
Interpretation of Part II
4. In this Part the following expressions shall have the following meanings -
"diagonal length", in relation to a relevant area, means the length of a line drawn diagonally across the square enclosing the area (so that the extent of the relevant area is thereby delimited);
"relevant area", in relation to a registration plate, means the area contained in a square described on the ground -
(a) in front of the vehicle in the case of a plate fixed on the front of the vehicle, and
(b) behind the vehicle in the case of a plate fixed on the rear of the vehicle,
where one corner of the square is immediately below the middle of the plate and the diagonal of the square from that corner is parallel to the longitudinal axis of the vehicle;
"relevant type-approval directive" means -
(a) in the case of a motor cycle, motor tricycle or quadricycle -
(i) Council Directive 93/94/EEC[4] (as amended by Commission Directive 99/26/EC[5]) as regards the space to be provided for fixing of the rear registration plate, and
(ii) Council Directive 93/92/EEC[6] as regards the rear registration plate lamp;
(b) in the case of any other vehicle or a trailer -
(i) Council Directive 70/222/EEC[7] as regards the space to be provided for fixing of the rear registration plate, and
(ii) Council Directive 76/760/EEC[8] (as amended by Commission Directive 97/31/EC[9]) as regards the rear registration plate lamp.
Fixing of rear registration plates: vehicles registered on or after the relevant date
5. - (1) This regulation applies to vehicles, other than works trucks, road rollers and agricultural machines, first registered on or after the relevant date.
(2) A registration plate must be fixed on the rear of -
(a) the vehicle, or
(b) where the vehicle is towing a trailer, the trailer, or
(c) where the vehicle is towing more than one trailer, the rearmost trailer.
(3) Where a vehicle (or, in a case where the plate is required to be fixed on a trailer, that trailer) has been constructed so as to satisfy the requirements of the relevant type-approval directive, whether or not it is required by law to satisfy them, the plate may be fixed in the space provided in accordance with those requirements but if it is not so fixed it must be fixed in the manner required by paragraph (5).
(4) Except as provided in paragraph (3) the plate must be fixed in the manner required by paragraph (5).
(5) This paragraph requires the plate to be fixed -
(a) vertically or, where that is not reasonably practicable, in a position as close to the vertical as is reasonably practicable, and
(b) in such a position that in normal daylight the characters of the registration mark are easily distinguishable from every part of a relevant area having the diagonal length specified in paragraph (6).
(6) The diagonal length of the relevant area is -
(a) in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is at least 57 millimetres, 22 metres,
(b) in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is 50 millimetres, 21.5 metres,
(c) in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is 44 millimetres, 18 metres."
Source: Her Majesty's Stationary Office - Statutory Instrument 2001 No. 561
The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/cgi-bin/htm_h...er_first_match
REGISTRATION PLATES
Interpretation of Part II
4. In this Part the following expressions shall have the following meanings -
"diagonal length", in relation to a relevant area, means the length of a line drawn diagonally across the square enclosing the area (so that the extent of the relevant area is thereby delimited);
"relevant area", in relation to a registration plate, means the area contained in a square described on the ground -
(a) in front of the vehicle in the case of a plate fixed on the front of the vehicle, and
(b) behind the vehicle in the case of a plate fixed on the rear of the vehicle,
where one corner of the square is immediately below the middle of the plate and the diagonal of the square from that corner is parallel to the longitudinal axis of the vehicle;
"relevant type-approval directive" means -
(a) in the case of a motor cycle, motor tricycle or quadricycle -
(i) Council Directive 93/94/EEC[4] (as amended by Commission Directive 99/26/EC[5]) as regards the space to be provided for fixing of the rear registration plate, and
(ii) Council Directive 93/92/EEC[6] as regards the rear registration plate lamp;
(b) in the case of any other vehicle or a trailer -
(i) Council Directive 70/222/EEC[7] as regards the space to be provided for fixing of the rear registration plate, and
(ii) Council Directive 76/760/EEC[8] (as amended by Commission Directive 97/31/EC[9]) as regards the rear registration plate lamp.
Fixing of rear registration plates: vehicles registered on or after the relevant date
5. - (1) This regulation applies to vehicles, other than works trucks, road rollers and agricultural machines, first registered on or after the relevant date.
(2) A registration plate must be fixed on the rear of -
(a) the vehicle, or
(b) where the vehicle is towing a trailer, the trailer, or
(c) where the vehicle is towing more than one trailer, the rearmost trailer.
(3) Where a vehicle (or, in a case where the plate is required to be fixed on a trailer, that trailer) has been constructed so as to satisfy the requirements of the relevant type-approval directive, whether or not it is required by law to satisfy them, the plate may be fixed in the space provided in accordance with those requirements but if it is not so fixed it must be fixed in the manner required by paragraph (5).
(4) Except as provided in paragraph (3) the plate must be fixed in the manner required by paragraph (5).
(5) This paragraph requires the plate to be fixed -
(a) vertically or, where that is not reasonably practicable, in a position as close to the vertical as is reasonably practicable, and
(b) in such a position that in normal daylight the characters of the registration mark are easily distinguishable from every part of a relevant area having the diagonal length specified in paragraph (6).
(6) The diagonal length of the relevant area is -
(a) in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is at least 57 millimetres, 22 metres,
(b) in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is 50 millimetres, 21.5 metres,
(c) in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is 44 millimetres, 18 metres."
Source: Her Majesty's Stationary Office - Statutory Instrument 2001 No. 561
The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/cgi-bin/htm_h...er_first_match
06 June 2006 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
"PART II
REGISTRATION PLATES
Interpretation of Part II
4. In this Part the following expressions shall have the following meanings -
"diagonal length", in relation to a relevant area, means the length of a line drawn diagonally across the square enclosing the area (so that the extent of the relevant area is thereby delimited);
"relevant area", in relation to a registration plate, means the area contained in a square described on the ground -
(a) in front of the vehicle in the case of a plate fixed on the front of the vehicle, and
(b) behind the vehicle in the case of a plate fixed on the rear of the vehicle,
where one corner of the square is immediately below the middle of the plate and the diagonal of the square from that corner is parallel to the longitudinal axis of the vehicle;
"relevant type-approval directive" means -
(a) in the case of a motor cycle, motor tricycle or quadricycle -
(i) Council Directive 93/94/EEC[4] (as amended by Commission Directive 99/26/EC[5]) as regards the space to be provided for fixing of the rear registration plate, and
(ii) Council Directive 93/92/EEC[6] as regards the rear registration plate lamp;
(b) in the case of any other vehicle or a trailer -
(i) Council Directive 70/222/EEC[7] as regards the space to be provided for fixing of the rear registration plate, and
(ii) Council Directive 76/760/EEC[8] (as amended by Commission Directive 97/31/EC[9]) as regards the rear registration plate lamp.
Fixing of rear registration plates: vehicles registered on or after the relevant date
5. - (1) This regulation applies to vehicles, other than works trucks, road rollers and agricultural machines, first registered on or after the relevant date.
(2) A registration plate must be fixed on the rear of -
(a) the vehicle, or
(b) where the vehicle is towing a trailer, the trailer, or
(c) where the vehicle is towing more than one trailer, the rearmost trailer.
(3) Where a vehicle (or, in a case where the plate is required to be fixed on a trailer, that trailer) has been constructed so as to satisfy the requirements of the relevant type-approval directive, whether or not it is required by law to satisfy them, the plate may be fixed in the space provided in accordance with those requirements but if it is not so fixed it must be fixed in the manner required by paragraph (5).
(4) Except as provided in paragraph (3) the plate must be fixed in the manner required by paragraph (5).
(5) This paragraph requires the plate to be fixed -
(a) vertically or, where that is not reasonably practicable, in a position as close to the vertical as is reasonably practicable, and
(b) in such a position that in normal daylight the characters of the registration mark are easily distinguishable from every part of a relevant area having the diagonal length specified in paragraph (6).
(6) The diagonal length of the relevant area is -
(a) in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is at least 57 millimetres, 22 metres,
(b) in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is 50 millimetres, 21.5 metres,
(c) in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is 44 millimetres, 18 metres."
Source: Her Majesty's Stationary Office - Statutory Instrument 2001 No. 561
The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/cgi-bin/htm_h...er_first_match
REGISTRATION PLATES
Interpretation of Part II
4. In this Part the following expressions shall have the following meanings -
"diagonal length", in relation to a relevant area, means the length of a line drawn diagonally across the square enclosing the area (so that the extent of the relevant area is thereby delimited);
"relevant area", in relation to a registration plate, means the area contained in a square described on the ground -
(a) in front of the vehicle in the case of a plate fixed on the front of the vehicle, and
(b) behind the vehicle in the case of a plate fixed on the rear of the vehicle,
where one corner of the square is immediately below the middle of the plate and the diagonal of the square from that corner is parallel to the longitudinal axis of the vehicle;
"relevant type-approval directive" means -
(a) in the case of a motor cycle, motor tricycle or quadricycle -
(i) Council Directive 93/94/EEC[4] (as amended by Commission Directive 99/26/EC[5]) as regards the space to be provided for fixing of the rear registration plate, and
(ii) Council Directive 93/92/EEC[6] as regards the rear registration plate lamp;
(b) in the case of any other vehicle or a trailer -
(i) Council Directive 70/222/EEC[7] as regards the space to be provided for fixing of the rear registration plate, and
(ii) Council Directive 76/760/EEC[8] (as amended by Commission Directive 97/31/EC[9]) as regards the rear registration plate lamp.
Fixing of rear registration plates: vehicles registered on or after the relevant date
5. - (1) This regulation applies to vehicles, other than works trucks, road rollers and agricultural machines, first registered on or after the relevant date.
(2) A registration plate must be fixed on the rear of -
(a) the vehicle, or
(b) where the vehicle is towing a trailer, the trailer, or
(c) where the vehicle is towing more than one trailer, the rearmost trailer.
(3) Where a vehicle (or, in a case where the plate is required to be fixed on a trailer, that trailer) has been constructed so as to satisfy the requirements of the relevant type-approval directive, whether or not it is required by law to satisfy them, the plate may be fixed in the space provided in accordance with those requirements but if it is not so fixed it must be fixed in the manner required by paragraph (5).
(4) Except as provided in paragraph (3) the plate must be fixed in the manner required by paragraph (5).
(5) This paragraph requires the plate to be fixed -
(a) vertically or, where that is not reasonably practicable, in a position as close to the vertical as is reasonably practicable, and
(b) in such a position that in normal daylight the characters of the registration mark are easily distinguishable from every part of a relevant area having the diagonal length specified in paragraph (6).
(6) The diagonal length of the relevant area is -
(a) in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is at least 57 millimetres, 22 metres,
(b) in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is 50 millimetres, 21.5 metres,
(c) in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is 44 millimetres, 18 metres."
Source: Her Majesty's Stationary Office - Statutory Instrument 2001 No. 561
The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/cgi-bin/htm_h...er_first_match
06 June 2006 | 08:38 PM
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There is also the Jap vehicle rules
Display of Vehicle Registration Marks on Imported Vehicles
(which have a restricted space for a standard sized number plate)
Certain imported vehicles may be permitted to display number plates with smaller characters if:
The vehicle does not have European Community Whole Vehicle Type Approval
AND
The vehicle's construction/design cannot accomodate standard size number plates
Specifications for smaller sized plates (for certain imported vehicles)
Character Height
64mm
Character Width
44mm
Character Stroke
10mm
Space between characters
10mm
3 years ago I had a very small incorrectly spaced front Plate 
4 days after speed camera visit and a Nip arrived so nothing wrong with the System
Tony
Originally Posted by DVLA
Display of Vehicle Registration Marks on Imported Vehicles
(which have a restricted space for a standard sized number plate)
Certain imported vehicles may be permitted to display number plates with smaller characters if:
The vehicle does not have European Community Whole Vehicle Type Approval
AND
The vehicle's construction/design cannot accomodate standard size number plates
Specifications for smaller sized plates (for certain imported vehicles)
Character Height
64mm
Character Width
44mm
Character Stroke
10mm
Space between characters
10mm
4 days after speed camera visit and a Nip arrived so nothing wrong with the System Tony
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06 June 2006 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by [Davey]
Supposidly its legal to have a small front plate on Jap Imports as many of them have tiny little recesses in the front bumper.
One such instance is the number plate recess on the back of Mitsubishi FTO's which is kind of rectangular in shape, not allowing for a 520mm plate.
I can't think of many, if any cars which don't have sufficient space on the front for a standard size plate...
