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07 June 2006, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Rabid
We could round up all the muslims and stick them in concentration camps prior to gassing them. While we are at it why not round up Irish catholics, gays, political enemies and people who 'look funny'?
07 June 2006, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBigMan
"Mentality". That defines Bristish(ness). 
Muslims by their very own definition are not British, you can wrap it up and be pedantic all you like with "British Muslim, with a hint of this and a hint that etc" but the cut and dry of it is they are not British.
I'm not saying they are any better nor any worse than non Muslims; however being a Muslim is not British. Though, in time the British culture of this country willl be watered down to the extent that British can be assigned to any race, colour, creed or religious leaning. Is this a good thing? No, as we are ALL losing our identity. Whites, non-whites, religious or not. EVERYBODY is losing their identity.
I'm all for integration and diversity however there should be some sort of limit. No particular race is to blame - it's a simple case that as in England, mass diversity causes major problems, hatred and issues just like in other contries with extermely high levels of ethnic diversity.........This thread, and many others like it are evidence enough.
We should have listened to Enoch Powell. whether he was racist or not, he was right.....weren't he.
Muslims by their very own definition are not British, you can wrap it up and be pedantic all you like with "British Muslim, with a hint of this and a hint that etc" but the cut and dry of it is they are not British.
I'm not saying they are any better nor any worse than non Muslims; however being a Muslim is not British. Though, in time the British culture of this country willl be watered down to the extent that British can be assigned to any race, colour, creed or religious leaning. Is this a good thing? No, as we are ALL losing our identity. Whites, non-whites, religious or not. EVERYBODY is losing their identity.
I'm all for integration and diversity however there should be some sort of limit. No particular race is to blame - it's a simple case that as in England, mass diversity causes major problems, hatred and issues just like in other contries with extermely high levels of ethnic diversity.........This thread, and many others like it are evidence enough.
We should have listened to Enoch Powell. whether he was racist or not, he was right.....weren't he.
whats your definition of british then? please don't include roast beef, pints etc
and quote "watered down", don't you mean blended and enhanced?
07 June 2006, 10:38 PM
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I usually defend the minority, but come on the muslims are just being stupid now, not all muslims, just alot of them ie pakistanis, indians and somalians especially. People are fed up and tired of theyre constant bull****, everyone is pissed, even muslims are tired of theyre constant crap.
And this is coming from someone who always seeks the truth, not corporating with police is total and utter stupidity, talk about letting the terrorists hide in our neighbor hoods.
And this is coming from someone who always seeks the truth, not corporating with police is total and utter stupidity, talk about letting the terrorists hide in our neighbor hoods.
07 June 2006, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Slartibartfast
No - just the Muslims. Enough is enough and we've had to put up with waaayyy too much from their skanky asses.
...thats it nothing else
07 June 2006, 11:14 PM
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What i love about these chats is that all you white ******* are all talk ...thats it nothing else
...thats it nothing else100 years ago the greatest nation and empire the world has seen, now we are dictated to by liberals and pander to dirty fecking immigrants.
The majority of foreigners and especially Muslims laugh at the UK and how pathetic it has become.
07 June 2006, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
Exactly, the white people living in Britain today must be the most selfish and apathetic in the world. They'll grumble about Muslims and crime but as long as their house price keeps going up they couldn't give a toss and won't do anything. Mustn't interfere etc.
100 years ago the greatest nation and empire the world has seen, now we are dictated to by liberals and pander to dirty fecking immigrants.
The majority of foreigners and especially Muslims laugh at the UK and how pathetic it has become.
100 years ago the greatest nation and empire the world has seen, now we are dictated to by liberals and pander to dirty fecking immigrants.
The majority of foreigners and especially Muslims laugh at the UK and how pathetic it has become.
SPOT ON
08 June 2006, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by vava voom
What i love about these chats is that all you white ******* are all talk ...thats it nothing else
...thats it nothing elseThe whole of Europe seems to be going the same way - The Netherlands were on about banning msulim immigration, and I think the native French are getting pretty pis$ed off with muslims rioting etc. Far right parties are on the up in most EU countries - so give it 10years and I dont think the "white *******" will just be getting walked all over so much then...
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People can't integrate, we're **** at it. Causes bombings, arguments and threads like this!!
Would be lovely if the human race was ready to integrate to the level to which we do - but we can't.
Bollox like religion just makes everything a whole lot worse. I mean, how can religious debates be resolved when one can't even prove their argument even exists in the first place??
My word some people are thick.
Would be lovely if the human race was ready to integrate to the level to which we do - but we can't.
Bollox like religion just makes everything a whole lot worse. I mean, how can religious debates be resolved when one can't even prove their argument even exists in the first place??
My word some people are thick.
08 June 2006, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TheBigMan
People can't integrate, we're **** at it. .
If I went to France to live,I wouldn't demand they turn it in to England.I would not complain about their flag,their culture,their way of life.I would expect to have to learn all things French and not expect them to be beholden to me in any way.
I really do not believe everyone's dream of perfect harmony is possible.Certain religions and cultures will just not bend.Ever.
And yes,even the calmest people are getting mightily brassed off.I find it difficult (apart from internet world) to find anyone who doesn't agee.
08 June 2006, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by lozgti
This is what I don't understand and neither do the sensible posters on here.
If I went to France to live,I wouldn't demand they turn it in to England.I would not complain about their flag,their culture,their way of life.I would expect to have to learn all things French and not expect them to be beholden to me in any way.
I really do not believe everyone's dream of perfect harmony is possible.Certain religions and cultures will just not bend.Ever.
And yes,even the calmest people are getting mightily brassed off.I find it difficult (apart from internet world) to find anyone who doesn't agee.
If I went to France to live,I wouldn't demand they turn it in to England.I would not complain about their flag,their culture,their way of life.I would expect to have to learn all things French and not expect them to be beholden to me in any way.
I really do not believe everyone's dream of perfect harmony is possible.Certain religions and cultures will just not bend.Ever.
And yes,even the calmest people are getting mightily brassed off.I find it difficult (apart from internet world) to find anyone who doesn't agee.
We do not live in an ideal world.
In the meantime we live in a country that is forever concentrating it's efforts on religious/racial conflicts. Sectarian attitude, racial groups, hatred. I'm sick to the back teeth of it.
I'm niot a racist, but my god I wish we would take a far harder line on who does/does not come into this country. Though I fear it's too late and we're now just a hatred fuelled melting pot.
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08 June 2006, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by vava voom
What i love about these chats is that all you white ******* are all talk ...thats it nothing else
...thats it nothing else
08 June 2006, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by vava voom
What i love about these chats is that all you white ******* ... bla bla:
08 June 2006, 08:08 PM
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There really is no end to the amount of garbage spouted on here by some. The ignorance displayed by some people is stunning, all they do is regurgitate the same vitriol they have heard/read elsewhere. If some of you biggots actually managed to get to know a muslim you would soon realise they are pretty much the same as you and I.
All they want to do much like the rest of the population is get on with their lives. Enjoy spending time with their families/children, enjoy their cars (escpecially Scoobys). They go to work earn an honest living, pay their taxes, go shopping buy nice things. Basically live in harmony with their neighbours be they asian,white or black.
This would be true for the vast majority of the population (there are exceptions in every case) but you choose to ignore this, much like most of the media. It's not really very interesting reading is it. How many people heard about the peace march through Leeds shortly after 7/7 ?
All they want to do much like the rest of the population is get on with their lives. Enjoy spending time with their families/children, enjoy their cars (escpecially Scoobys). They go to work earn an honest living, pay their taxes, go shopping buy nice things. Basically live in harmony with their neighbours be they asian,white or black.
This would be true for the vast majority of the population (there are exceptions in every case) but you choose to ignore this, much like most of the media. It's not really very interesting reading is it. How many people heard about the peace march through Leeds shortly after 7/7 ?
08 June 2006, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by shustir
There really is no end to the amount of garbage spouted on here by some. The ignorance displayed by some people is stunning, all they do is regurgitate the same vitriol they have heard/read elsewhere. If some of you biggots actually managed to get to know a muslim you would soon realise they are pretty much the same as you and I.
All they want to do much like the rest of the population is get on with their lives. Enjoy spending time with their families/children, enjoy their cars (escpecially Scoobys). They go to work earn an honest living, pay their taxes, go shopping buy nice things. Basically live in harmony with their neighbours be they asian,white or black.
This would be true for the vast majority of the population (there are exceptions in every case) but you choose to ignore this, much like most of the media. It's not really very interesting reading is it. How many people heard about the peace march through Leeds shortly after 7/7 ?
All they want to do much like the rest of the population is get on with their lives. Enjoy spending time with their families/children, enjoy their cars (escpecially Scoobys). They go to work earn an honest living, pay their taxes, go shopping buy nice things. Basically live in harmony with their neighbours be they asian,white or black.
This would be true for the vast majority of the population (there are exceptions in every case) but you choose to ignore this, much like most of the media. It's not really very interesting reading is it. How many people heard about the peace march through Leeds shortly after 7/7 ?
sense spoken at last. the media in this country need taking out and lined up against a wall for what they're doing
08 June 2006, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted Maul
sense spoken at last. the media in this country need taking out and lined up against a wall for what they're doing
Yea yea, it's all the 'media's' fault. Nothing to do with those poor misunderstood muslims.
08 June 2006, 08:42 PM
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What i love about these chats is that all you white ******* are all talk ...thats it nothing else
Who are the rasicts now?
08 June 2006, 08:47 PM
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Yesterday, Dr Ghayas Siddiqui, leader of Britain's Muslim Parliament, said the shooting could harm relations between Britain’s 1.9 million Muslims and police.
He said: "bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. bla.. "
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08 June 2006, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Yea yea, it's all the 'media's' fault. Nothing to do with those poor misunderstood muslims.
08 June 2006, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by shustir
Yes the media does play a big part in this. Obviously bigots refuse to see anything from any other point of view.
08 June 2006, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
In the same way that the muslim biggots believe that they can do no wrong, and are perfect in every way I guess.
I can see you know, banging away at your keyboard, froth from your mouth falling all over it!
Its Summer time, go out and enjoy yourself!
08 June 2006, 11:21 PM
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Hello to all
Right here we go first of all Yvonne Ridley is not a person who understands Islaam or represents me or many of the other reasonable Muslim here in the UK. She is a new Muslim and should concentrate on learning the basics of the religion rather than saying what she thinks out loud and engaging her mouth before her brain. Her statements go against all the advice of the people who have Islaamic Knowledge. She said:
She told a meeting on Tuesday that Muslims should "boycott the police and refuse to co-operate with them in any way, shape or form."
She said: "From today until this terrorisation of the Muslim community is stopped immediately, I believe all Muslims should withdraw their support," she said.
"This goes from asking the community copper for directions to passing the time of day with a beat officer.
"We should enforce non-co-operation."
Speaking on Wednesday morning, Ms Ridley defended her comments.
"I called for zero tolerance with the Metropolitan Police, the force which has demonstrated time and time again its Islamophobic attitudes," she told BBC News
The people who understand Islaam have clearly advised Muslims who know of any plots or plans here or anywhere else with regards to terrorism it is OBLIGATORY for them to inform the authorities due to three reasons:
1. A suicide bomber will be killing himself which is forbidden in Islaam (and by the way does not guarantee Paradise and virgins!!!)
2. The harm it causes people by loss of life, destroying of families and great injury to people as well as destruction to peoples property.
3. The harm to Muslims in terms of backlash (which is starting by the looks of it).
Regards the police issue if they had a good amount of intelligence about these people then there is no doubt they should act upon in and stop any further bloodshed of innocents (Muslim or non Muslim). If that means injuring a Muslim if they were sure he was going to let off a bomb or even killing him then so be it...but to be honest I hope no police officer ever shoots me in the arm or anywhere else due to a hunch. We must see what the investigation produces talking without knowledge of that is just making presumption.
As Muslim we are living in the UK and we should abide by the laws however as I do not expect you to come to the mosque to pray with me it is fair to say that you would probably not see me in a pub swigging a pint. As a previous person who posted stated I love spending time with my family, love cars (Imprezas, M5, AMGs etc.), love football (playing and watching - yes I am supporting England), work hard and pay all my taxes etc. I look out for my friends, neighbours and fellow human beings and yes if I saw a group of Muslims attacking a non Muslim I would intervene if it was within my capabilities and vice versa.
Some cases of police dealings with the Muslim community may have been heavy handed but every single experience I have had with he police has been very good...the last of which was a police officer who stopped me for driving a tad too fast he gave me the Islaamic greeting (a non Muslim policeman) then just gave me some very nice advice and that was it!
On the other hand I live in Manchester and on Wilmslow Road on the Eid celebration you see the despicable way the Muslims act to the extent that the whole road has to be closed down with a huge police prescence due to the kind on problems caused by Muslim 'mouthy trouble making' youths in their 'so called' celebrations of Eid!!! So do people expect the police to be lovely and nice with such conduct from the Muslims come on Muslims get a grip. Treat people with respect and you will get some back in return.
Regards bringing back the crusades then even said in jest that is just not funny...thousands of innocent Muslim women, men and children were just slaughtered for their religion and as by far the majority of Muslims in the world are well against terrorism and killing of innocent lives then that statement and 'gassing' is just not very nice.
There are many Muslim white f**kers as well so that statement is just not right racism is against the teachings of Islaam...some of my closest friends and work colleagues are white so leave that out it achieves nothing in this discussion.
Aaquil.
Right here we go first of all Yvonne Ridley is not a person who understands Islaam or represents me or many of the other reasonable Muslim here in the UK. She is a new Muslim and should concentrate on learning the basics of the religion rather than saying what she thinks out loud and engaging her mouth before her brain. Her statements go against all the advice of the people who have Islaamic Knowledge. She said:
She told a meeting on Tuesday that Muslims should "boycott the police and refuse to co-operate with them in any way, shape or form."
She said: "From today until this terrorisation of the Muslim community is stopped immediately, I believe all Muslims should withdraw their support," she said.
"This goes from asking the community copper for directions to passing the time of day with a beat officer.
"We should enforce non-co-operation."
Speaking on Wednesday morning, Ms Ridley defended her comments.
"I called for zero tolerance with the Metropolitan Police, the force which has demonstrated time and time again its Islamophobic attitudes," she told BBC News
The people who understand Islaam have clearly advised Muslims who know of any plots or plans here or anywhere else with regards to terrorism it is OBLIGATORY for them to inform the authorities due to three reasons:
1. A suicide bomber will be killing himself which is forbidden in Islaam (and by the way does not guarantee Paradise and virgins!!!)
2. The harm it causes people by loss of life, destroying of families and great injury to people as well as destruction to peoples property.
3. The harm to Muslims in terms of backlash (which is starting by the looks of it).
Regards the police issue if they had a good amount of intelligence about these people then there is no doubt they should act upon in and stop any further bloodshed of innocents (Muslim or non Muslim). If that means injuring a Muslim if they were sure he was going to let off a bomb or even killing him then so be it...but to be honest I hope no police officer ever shoots me in the arm or anywhere else due to a hunch. We must see what the investigation produces talking without knowledge of that is just making presumption.
As Muslim we are living in the UK and we should abide by the laws however as I do not expect you to come to the mosque to pray with me it is fair to say that you would probably not see me in a pub swigging a pint. As a previous person who posted stated I love spending time with my family, love cars (Imprezas, M5, AMGs etc.), love football (playing and watching - yes I am supporting England), work hard and pay all my taxes etc. I look out for my friends, neighbours and fellow human beings and yes if I saw a group of Muslims attacking a non Muslim I would intervene if it was within my capabilities and vice versa.
Some cases of police dealings with the Muslim community may have been heavy handed but every single experience I have had with he police has been very good...the last of which was a police officer who stopped me for driving a tad too fast he gave me the Islaamic greeting (a non Muslim policeman) then just gave me some very nice advice and that was it!
On the other hand I live in Manchester and on Wilmslow Road on the Eid celebration you see the despicable way the Muslims act to the extent that the whole road has to be closed down with a huge police prescence due to the kind on problems caused by Muslim 'mouthy trouble making' youths in their 'so called' celebrations of Eid!!! So do people expect the police to be lovely and nice with such conduct from the Muslims come on Muslims get a grip. Treat people with respect and you will get some back in return.
Regards bringing back the crusades then even said in jest that is just not funny...thousands of innocent Muslim women, men and children were just slaughtered for their religion and as by far the majority of Muslims in the world are well against terrorism and killing of innocent lives then that statement and 'gassing' is just not very nice.
There are many Muslim white f**kers as well so that statement is just not right racism is against the teachings of Islaam...some of my closest friends and work colleagues are white so leave that out it achieves nothing in this discussion.
Aaquil.
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08 June 2006, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AsifScoob
Stop ranting and raving like a demented idiot!
I can see you know, banging away at your keyboard, froth from your mouth falling all over it!
Its Summer time, go out and enjoy yourself!
I can see you know, banging away at your keyboard, froth from your mouth falling all over it!
Its Summer time, go out and enjoy yourself!
09 June 2006, 08:23 AM
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"Majority of muslims" - "we want to live in peace" - "Other such bollox"
I supose it was the media that made all those peace loving muslims ***** go out on the streets around the world demanding the death of the infidels for having the audacity to draw a cartoon.
I'm sorry - you can all **** off if you think we're falling for the "It's all media hype" bollox !
I supose it was the media that made all those peace loving muslims ***** go out on the streets around the world demanding the death of the infidels for having the audacity to draw a cartoon.
I'm sorry - you can all **** off if you think we're falling for the "It's all media hype" bollox !
09 June 2006, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by lightning101
Why can they not all be like Aaquil 
Do you like British values ?
I'm not worried / interested in what you think British values are - just if you like them or not.
